2014 questions, speculations, comments

<p>Thank you, Wolverine86, for that thorough information. I will try to stop worrying about “messing up” now.</p>

<p>@IslandTigerMom - :frowning: I hope your student makes it. Since our daughter wrote it in SD and got a 226 we know she made it, we moved to TX over the summer and I have this sinking feeling that although we notified them of the address change, it never actually got changed. After reading through some other posts it seems that the mailings to homeschoolers get sent non-profit or bulk mail which means it won’t get forwarded either. I hate to be “that mother” but when we’re talking 4 years of college paid for, I guess I’m going to have to be.</p>

<p>mom21, wouldn’t worst case scenario is u find out when the press releases come out in less than 2 weeks? I agree, a 226 better have made it!!! but actually, it does make sense since you’re the school administrator to have the NM board get the necc paperwork to you ASAP so you and your daughter can start working on the semi-finalist paperwork. I wonder how the school description issues and letter from the principal or GC issues work out for homeschoolers? interesting. it just hit me that creates some challenges for the families to get the school paperwork in. No worse than a school portfolio though or some other hoops homeschoolers have to go through depending on their state of residence</p>

<p>I called back this afternoon, and managed to get to the bottom of it, sure enough they sent it to our old address even though I had received an e-mail in July acknowledging the address change and that it would be sent to the new address. They said they’d resend it early next week. The e-mail I received back though basically said I had to wait until the 11th and if it had not arrived by then, I could at that time inquire about getting another package sent out. So I’m glad I phoned back this p.m. since it was their fault it was not sent to the correct address initially.</p>

<p>As for the requirements as I understand it we can use someone else that has had a leadership position for the referral letter, we plan on using our daughter’s Girl Scout troop leader that she had for many years.</p>

<p>I definitely qualify, but I moved from TX to CA over the summer. I called the National Merit Office in July to tell them about my situation, and was told to mail or email them. When I emailed, I never received a response. So, unless they read my email and changed my school info, but then didn’t feel the need to shoot me a quick confirmation email, everything is going to go to my old TX school. My current counselor (CA) claims that she hasn’t received results for anyone (high performing school that usually has 30-50 semifinalists), but I’m sure by next Wednesday, she will have received them or decided to talk about them. I’ll go back then and see if I’m on the list. If I’m not (which I do not expect to be), I’m going to try to get a hold of my old counselor to ask if I’m on her list, and my new counselor is going to try to call National Merit through a special “school number” that she has. </p>

<p>I’m stressed out about this, and I <em>know</em> my score is high enough - I can’t imagine what those of you on the cusp are going through :frowning: National Merit <em>really</em> needs to find a better way to distribute the results - like maybe every high scorer gets to create an online account, and on a given date in late August/early September, everyone can check their status. This “through the school” system seems kind of ridiculous to me. Nowhere on the site (that I could find) is it listed what to do if you move, and calling and emailing didn’t do anything for me. I KNOW that each year there are plenty of kids who go through the same confusion that me and Mom21clgbnd have experienced. Most importantly, finding out online at a set time would make the whole process way less stressful for everyone - it’s not fair that it’s already been a week of scores rolling in, and lots of people still have no idea whether or not they are going to make it - and don’t know when they will find out. </p>

<p>@mom21clgbnd - I sent you a PM but I didn’t realize that you had so few posts and wouldn’t be able to respond! You don’t even need to respond now, since it looks like emailing to get an address change didn’t even end up working out for you…</p>

<p>@I5OR217:
have you gotten your results yet?</p>

<p>No news here…we are in the same boat as you</p>

<p>Good Luck!!</p>

<p>@MDmom14–thanks!!! No news, and at this point, I am quite sure we won’t hear anything until the official postings come out next week. So…all in all it seems to be a 9 month wait! Wondering if in the future they will standardize the system, esp. in re: to notifications. Time will tell I guess! The last time I looked at the NM website, they still had 2012 timelines/ dates… to say the least they are somewhat slow. The 11th isn’t that far off…we’ll make it! :)</p>

<p>Do they send out letters to commended students?</p>

<p>Still waiting with a 196 in IA(region 4) for NASF.
The press release date is much later for some reason(9/25) even tho the NA letters only went out three days after the NM ones did.</p>

<p>@univbound we will keep our fingers crossed for you!</p>

<p>Yoskis, have you considered starting your own thread about NASF? Although I find many of your comments interesting, I wonder if others in your situation who know that they will not qualify for NMSF are not reading these threads. Did you ever find out if the NAF process had the same stringent requirements regarding grades and SAT scores as the NMF?</p>

<p><a href=“posted%20a%20list%20of%20scores%20from%20the%20class%20of%202014%20compared%20to%20class%20of%202013,%20class%20of%202012,%20class%20of%202007%20(for%20which%20I%20only%20have%20partial%20data);%20click%20the%20little%20arrow%20to%20see%20that%20post”>quote=@CAPdad;16346905</a>

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<p>Here’s an attempt to do something very similar using the [code ] symbols to try format the results (states with an asterisk are suspected to have finalized scores on the official list). Thank you to @ROCKFISHDG for all the work to keep the list updated.</p>

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                                     Potential|2013 to|2012 to </p>

<h2>State ▼       2014    2013    2012    2007    Max  Max. Diff| 2014  |  2014</h2>

<p>Alabama *   211 209 211 212 212 -1  2   0
Alaska          204 212 212 212    TBD_<strong><em>TBD</em></strong><strong><em>TBD
Arizona *   214 212 213 214 214 0   2   1
Arkansas *  205 202 205     205 0   3   0
California  222 220 221 219 221 1   2   1
Colorado *  215 212 215 216 216 -1  3   0
Connecticut 221 218 220 221 221 0   3   1
Delaware        215 217 219 219    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Dist. Columbia      221 223     223    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Florida *   214 211 214 215 215 -1  3   0
Georgia *   217 214 218 218 218 -1  3   -1
Hawaii      215 211 216 218 218 -3  4   -1
Idaho       212 207 211     211 1   5   1
Illinois *  216 213 216 218 218 -2  3   0
Indiana *   215 211 214     214 1   4   1
Iowa *      210 207 210     210 0   3   0
Kansas *    216 212 214 213 214 2   4   2
Kentucky *  211 208 212 212 212 -1  3   -1
Louisiana * 209 209 209 209 209 0   0   0
Maine           210 212 213 213    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Maryland        219 221 223 223    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Massachusetts   224 221 223 224 224 0   3   1
Michigan *  210 207 210 211 211 -1  3   0
Minnesota       213 215 214 215    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Mississippi *   207 204 205 204 205 2   3   2
Missouri    214 210 213 214 214 0   4   1
Montana         203 209     209    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Nebraska        207 209     209    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Nevada          208 209 208 209    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
New Hampshire       211 216 216 216    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
New Jersey      221 223 223 223    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
New Mexico  210 208 210     210 0   2   0
New York    219 215 219 221 221 -2  4   0
North Carolina  215 213 217 215 217 -2  2   -2
North Dakota *  204 200 204     204 0   4   0
Ohio *      215 212 214 215 215 0   3   1
Oklahoma *  210 206 209 207 209 1   4   1
Oregon      218 213 216 215 216 2   5   2
Pennsylvania *  217 214 215 217 217 0   3   2
Rhode Island        211 213     213    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
South Carolina      208 211 214 214    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
South Dakota        204 206     206    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>__<strong><em>TBD
Tennessee * 212 210 214 217 217 -5  2   -2
Texas *     219 216 219 217 219 0   3   0
Utah        211 205 208     208 3   6   3
Vermont *   217 214 217     217 0   3   0
Virginia    222 217 220 220 220 2   5   2
Washington  220 216 220 219 220 0   4   0
West Virginia   204 200 204     204 0   4   0
Wisconsin   210 207 209 211 211 -1  3   1
Wyoming         200 204     204    TBD</em></strong><em>TBD</em>_____TBD</p>

<h2>International       221 223     223    TBD_<strong><em>TBD</em></strong>___TBD</h2>

<pre><code>                                 Potential|2013 to|2012 to 
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<p>State ▲       2014    2013    2012    2007    Max  Max. Diff| 2014  |  2014</p>

<p>AVERAGE     213.92  210.77  213.62      214.19          0.44
MEDIAN      214.5   211 214     214         0
MAXIMUM     224 221 223     224         3
MINIMUM     204 200 204     204         -2


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<p>ilfather, did u and ur kid ever get an answer?</p>

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<p>My daughter should be in with a 218. Still have not heard officially though. Thanks for asking. I’m sorry your child did not make the cut, @ctl987. Be sure to post a copy of your letter to NMSC here for all of us to endorse. Maybe you should find a website to collect signatures for such a letter…</p>

<p>Glad on your kid!! not a bad idea to get some endorsements. i got part of it done. We are actually ok with kid not making it, after i, more than kid had time to digest news. Kid is completely fine and in some ways relieved, cause some of their top choices were not NM schools anyway. This resolves their would be dilemma of accepting a full ride at a NM school when their heart may be set on going somewhere else. My bigger complaints are NM taking 11 months to figure this out, making families scramble once they do find out(fall of a senior year is busy enough without having to add/subtract colleges from the list and work with school to get NM paperwork in order) and NM being so darn opaque with any info over last 11 months. Heck, they are still being opaque until later on this week</p>

<p>@Napermom, i have in the AA fourm, thanks. I was just posting here because the pool for NA students is much smaller+AA students are not as prevalent on CC for a variety of reasons so there are fewer responses.</p>

<p>@univbound I just saw in the other thread a post from md stating a 225 made it so more MD numbers seem to be finally rolling in.</p>

<p>Correction: 223 was nmsf in MD not 225. I mistyped</p>

<p>@mjcc01 wrote in the official thread about a link to all the cutoff scores. For those having trouble finding it at [FairTest</a> Press Release: National Merit Scholarship Qualifying Scores Vary Greatly State-By State | FairTest](<a href=“http://www.fairtest.org/fairtest-press-release-national-merit-scholarship-2013]FairTest”>http://www.fairtest.org/fairtest-press-release-national-merit-scholarship-2013), here is a cut-and-paste of the data…</p>

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NMSQT/PSAT Qualifying Scores for High School
Class of 2014 National Merit Semifinalists<br>
        Alabama         211         Nevada      212 
    Alaska                  212         New Hampshire   214 
    Arizona         214         New Jersey  224 
    Arkansas        205         New Mexico  210 
    California      223         New York    219 
    Colorado        215         North Carolina  215 
    Connecticut             221         North Dakota    204 
    Delaware        218         Ohio        215 
    Dist. of Columbia   224         Oklahoma    210 
    Florida         214         Oregon      218 
    Georgia         217         Pennsylvania    217 
    Hawaii              215         Rhode Island    216 
    Idaho               211         South Carolina  210 
    Illinois        216         South Dakota    206 
    Indiana         215         Tennessee       212 
    Iowa                210         Texas       219 
    Kansas              216         Utah        208 
    Kentucky        211         Vermont     217 
    Louisiana       209             Virginia    222 
    Maine               215         Washington  220 
    Maryland        223         West Virginia   203 
    Massachusetts       224         Wisconsin   210 
    Michigan        210         Wyoming     203 
    Minnesota       215<br>
    Mississippi         207         U.S. Territories  203 
    Missouri        213         Outside U.S.      224<br>
    Montana         207         Boarding Schools  217-224
    Nebraska        209           (depending on region)


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<p>PDF attachment link: <a href=“http://www.fairtest.org/sites/default/files/Nat-Merit-Semifinalist-Class-2014-Cutoff-Release.pdf[/url]”>http://www.fairtest.org/sites/default/files/Nat-Merit-Semifinalist-Class-2014-Cutoff-Release.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>@ctl987:
I totally feel ya, man. Turns out that I was a victim of a 5 point increase in my state’s cutoff(I was 4 points over last year’s cutoff and 1 point over the all time high).Because of this, over the last 11 months I believed that I was in and began to plan my college around that. Unfortunately, I was beginning to apply to schools that offer aid for national merit when the news broke.</p>