<p>Reading the thread, I’m just wondering whether Harvard favors the students who are more likely to accept Z-list offer, either younger, or having expressed wanting a gap year, or being a legacy. Maybe the yield for a Z-list is rather low so Harvard wants to give to those who are more likely to accept. Maybe if they know an applicant (like Intel ISEF 1st place) who is highly likely to already have offers from schools like Yale/Princeton/Stanford/MIT, they would not even bother to keep them on extended WL or Z-list them?</p>
<p>@ChrxswxN LOL you’re so open with your identity</p>
<p>Come at me, bby (;</p>
<p>Rejected 
The dream is officially over. To Georgetown! :)</p>
<p>@vivian_ I will note that in my letter of intent, which ended up being something of another essay, I mentioned my interest in a gap year, and when I met with my admissions officer in April it came up again with me wholeheartedly embracing the idea. I’m sure it helps if you demonstrate that interest, but I bet a bunch of us do that, so maybe it doesn’t help that much?</p>
<p>I am not a legacy by the way, so that was probably also a factor.</p>
<p>Hey Cedardog, I’m off to Georgetown too!</p>
<p>@classof20178 I am 18 and my birthday was in February so I doubt that age had much to do with it. I think normally you may be right in that they would z-list the younger students but in the email I got it said that they weren’t taking anyway into the Class of 2017 as it was full so I think for this year it’s z-list or nothing!</p>
<p>@Rachelsophie I’ll private message you it</p>
<p>@vivian in my letter of intent for Harvard I expressed that I would be more than happy to receive a deferred offer so that I could study at Harvard and outlined what I would do in my year off so you could be correct.</p>
<p>Maulrus<br>
My S was legacy and was denied off waitlist. So he and all my money will now be going to the University of Miami. Good luck, to all who didnt make the cut. I know you all have what it takes to excel at whatever you choose and to those who made it Congratulations.</p>
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<p>LMAO…the bitterness is strong in this one</p>
<p>@olibonn, hey if you don’t mind, can you post the email that you recieved? I did not get an email at all yesterday, so I am a little confused?</p>
<p>I did not receive any email. Is this supposed to be good?
Any other international students here?</p>
<p>So, everything happened yesterday as expected class 2017 is full; no one would get off the WL; some get z-list offer; some still are on the list including my S; what is the next? My suggestion is that they are waiting for the response from the first-wave-z-listers then will make the second wave if it is necessary. That will take them several days. Good luck to everyone who is still hoping. Thought: H would be nice, but be happy with what you have now.</p>
<p>@collegehopeful @Rachelsophie
I am writing with a proposal that I hope you will consider very seriously, but I must first report that it will not be possible for us to offer you admission from the waiting list for this coming August. An unusually high percentage of students have accepted our offer of admission. As a result, we are unable to admit anyone from the waiting list and we anticipate only a limited number of students, if any, will be admitted to the Class of 2017 entering in August. </p>
<p>Our admissions year brought over thirty-five thousand applicants, a record number, for the 1,662 places in the freshman class. Accordingly, students on our waiting list were distinguished by exceptionally strong academic, extracurricular and personal achievements. We have decided to offer you and a few other very strong candidates admission to the Class of 2018 which will enter in August 2014.</p>
<p>We hope you will accept this offer. You should know that Harvard strongly encourages students to take time off before or during college. Students undertake a wide variety of activities including work, travel or part-time study. Virtually all report that their time off was extremely rewarding. We have enclosed information that will be helpful to you in deciding if a gap year is right for you.</p>
<p>Should you accept our offer, you would be free to pursue any activity except study as a degree candidate at another university or full-time study at a secondary school. In addition, we would expect you not to hold a place at another college and to notify any college in which you are currently holding a space. In the unlikely event that a space in the Class of 2017 becomes available for you during the summer, we will be in touch with you immediately.</p>
<p>We recognize that you may well prefer to continue your studies at another college. Nevertheless, please give our offer very careful thought. We believe that you would do well here, taking excellent advantage of the opportunities available to our students. In previous years, students who have taken time off prior to freshman year have been among the most outstanding members of their classes.</p>
<p>It would be most helpful to know your final decision on Monday, June 3 by 5:00 pm EDT. Please respond online using your access code. We hope very much that you will decide to accept our offer of admission for the Class of 2018.</p>
<p>We look forward to hearing from you. Whatever you decide, you have our best wishes for every future success.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>William R. Fitzsimmons
Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid</p>
<p>Thanks to @olibonn for posting the letter which makes it more clear for the people who are still hoping. The chance becomes much smaller, but the hope is still alive. Honestly, I do not believe it will happen to my son by many reasons; just little more than 10 years ago none of us in the family even spoke English; the fact that my S is on H WL proves that he has made a recordable progress going from ESL through AP English student during his school carrier. However, that was not enough - we were still lack of the cultural experience. I wished I knew CC at least one year earlier to answer many questions that we did not know who to ask. Aha… when you get to know things, it will be too late.</p>
<p>Are you going to accept the z-list?!</p>
<p>What does it mean if we haven’t heard anything yet? Is this typically a good sign, or do a lot of people get rejected in June too?</p>
<p>@kitdancer If you haven’t heard anything, it’s semi-good news. Many don’t make the first cut. But I would imagine that, although there are only a few left now, the majority will still get rejected eventually.</p>
<p>Let’s say Harvard now has 100 people on the waitlist. Only about 30 will get accepted to the z-list relatively soon, and maybe 5 will get accepted to the class of 2017 very late in the summer. It is just my impression based on the information from my reading.</p>
<p>I’ve just been z-listed!</p>
<p>Z-listed as well!</p>
<p>So, I guess the AdCom does not wait… They are eventually sending out z-list offer one by one. Good luck to everyone who are still hoping.</p>