***2018 National Merit Finalist Thread****

So many kids who know what they want to study! My NMF kid hasn’t a clue.

@flatKansas I believe it begins with determining which state pool a candidate is in. D lives in state A, goes to school in state B. Technically, she will be considered among the state B NMSF pool to determine if she will be awarded any of the state’s available NM scholarships. State B has no loyalty to the student as the student does not attend school in state. State A has no loyalty because the student is not a resident of their state. I know how NMSC supposedly handles it; I am just trying to find out if they or the National Merit state organizations execute as they say they do.

The programs we have encountered which discriminate against kids who attend out of state boarding schools include the US Senate Youth Program, the US Senate Page program and the DAR Awards program. There are some others but I am blanking on them now.

I’m just curious to find out if anyone who attended an out of state boarding school has been awarded a National Merit state award or a National Merit school award or a National Merit corporate award. She has been deemed NMF.

(for some reason, this was a very delayed post, started a while ago).

@xxyyzz00 for forestry, go to U of Idaho

@DavidPuddy : I hope your comment is not reductio ad absurdum. I am human being bound by the laws of Asimov’s :slight_smile:

@Mnacttutor YES I was so amazed by the Neuroscience program and the Brain Performance Institute!!!

@xxyyzz00,
Nothing to do with your existence as robot or human; simply pointing out your “algorithm” was very limited.

@DavidPuddy : Of course, it is a simplification, hence the quotation marks. But I feel that since it provides a blueprint, it is still useful (at least for me). @Mnacttutor contributed to it by stating where it falls short and why, and I appreciated his/her comments.

@Mnacttutor: Thanks for excellent comments. I struggled with neuroscience/biomedical engineering while deciding on a major. These fields are becoming increasingly popular. Most people agree that they are academically important but the verdict on their job prospects doesn’t seem to be that clear. Several people online ask “where are the jobs?”. I saw comments on the boards that grad students had to do postdoc after postdoc even after getting their PhDs.

I feel that since the job prospects are not terribly clear, one should have a backup plan if things don’t work out. The way I see it is neuroscience makes a reasonable premed major in the event that things don’t go as planned. So, I tend to see neuroscience within the context of premed as well. I have a very strong researcher/scientist bug within me but I felt that it would be easier and certainly safer to become a research-oriented doctor.

I haven’t looked at the neuroscience program at UTD at all, so I can’t comment. But given all these thoughts, I feel safe with the UCF medical route.

I would consider UIdaho if you live in the PNW or want a smaller college. Decent engineering too.

Ah, March 22nd not March 2nd. Thanks for the info!

@xxyyzz00 when we toured Michigan State the neuroscience department there focused on jobs you can get right out of college in the field. There were several interesting opportunities, mostly in the medical device field, but it was the first department that gave an alternative to research or med school as the outcome of neuroscience.

SB 4 Update
Last Action: 3/6/2018 - Signed by Officers and presented to Governor

*3/6/2018 • Signed by Officers and presented to Governor
So xxyyzz00… Where you headed to…? :)>-

Benacquisto:

What is included in the cost of attendance (COA)?
The COA is the total cost to attend college full-time per term and may include, but is not limited to, tuition and fees, on-campus room and board, books, supplies, travel, and miscellaneous expenses.

• Florida State University
• New College of Florida
• University of Central Florida
• University of Florida
• University of Miami (private school, scholarship only includes COA of the highest State school listed)
• University of South Florida

I was looking for posts from FSU in state NMFs, as to what amount was deposited in their bank accounts after payment of tuition, room and board and fees, but do not see any. Anyone have a clue?

@FSUdad3: This would be a total game changer, if it gets signed.
I was settled on UCF…Now, I don’t know…
UCF vs UF vs UMiami…

UCF BMS is an incredible opportunity…Even a casual look at BS/MD forum shows how precious this is.
If I were dead-set on premed, I would choose UCF.
Overall, excellent university culture, excellent HC, excellent BMS opportunity, excellent treatment of NMFs.
Just looking at the enthusiasm of @sewin2music , I can understand how awesome this school is.
On the downside, too many transfer students affecting ranking and prestige factor.

UF: Solid university in almost every major. State’s flagship.
If you are undecided, probably the best bet.
Honors program is not as good as Burnett HC (in my opinion)
Sports…

UMiami: Private; Caters more to the students.
I am not sure if its culture is a good fit for me. I saw some “rich vs poor student” type comments.
Although I received a substantial merit from UMiami, it still won’t be free-ride.

I haven’t really researched them yet…
At this time, although too early, UF > UCF > UM for me.

If the bill gets signed (hopefully it will), I have to do a good amount of research in the next few weeks.

It is too late at this point for a NMF to apply to these Florida schools and receive the scholarship for 2018, right?

Probably not too late for UCF…I think the deadline for HC is March 31.
I have no idea for the others.

With these new NM scholarships in FL are they assured for all four years or can the state change it’s mind next year and decided to get rid of the OOS NM?

I had my son apply to UCF, FSU and UF early in case SB 4 passed. If it is signed or still open, we will visit UF on this coming Monday. UCF is our current top choice. Hoping to get it between UCF and UF. UCF program is definitely set up better for NMF’s than UF. Not sure of deadlines.