2nd undergrad-degree

Why do you think a second bachelors degree is necessary. What is your career goal?

"I am terribly sorry about that; I should have been clearer. It stands for Cognitive Science.
And I am not interested in pursuing my education at UTD. I want to transfer elsewhere (a.Carnegie or b.Stanford or c.M.I.T (or any other college with students involving in advancements in A.I, Robotics
My career goal: I want to be either want to be my machine learning/A.I professor or want to get a job at google and develop humanoid robots "

I’m not an expert in your fields, but I don’t think you need a second bachelors degree. I think you need a job, and some space between your bachelors and further schooling.

@blossom can you please talk about how jobs don’t necessarily have to be tied to a college major?

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MIT does not accept students for second bachelors degrees.

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I think you should listen to @thumper1. She’s smater than me, prettier than me, and looks better in heels. She’s also more polite. I am more direct.

You did poorly at UTD. Maybe you had a good reason for that, but the fact remains that you did poorly. Another fact that will not help you is that other people also had a good reason to do poorly - and yet did well.

Your reaction to that is to move up about 150 places in the rankings. This is very, very, very unlikely. I’m sorry to say this, and sorrier to say it so bluntly, but you have crafted a very bad plan.

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I agree with the other posters, your grades reflect your chances.
If you performed poorly in your school, then that performance will not translate to a top school being interested in your high expectations.

Stanford, CMU and any other elite school will be a bust.

For some schools, like Stanford, another student has to drop out to make room for you. If your grades are C’s and D’s, your status for admission is not good. I know you are probably international, given your lexicon, but the way it works with elite schools is that you need to meet THEIR basic expectations. You don’t get to pick and choose for your “high expectations”.

Your next steps are to improve your grades at UTD. I suspect you have been advised that you will be placed on Scholastic probation until those grades improve. If those grades continue to decrease, then you may want to consider attending a Community college to improve your GPA. It may take a while, but I just don’t see how you will be able to transfer into those elite programs if your grades aren’t up to their standards.

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CogSci at UTD has (I’m sure you know) an Intelligent Systems (AI)/Computational Modeling track that offers very solid preparation for your field of interest. I don’t really understand why you think you need a second undergraduate degree.

CMU, Stanford, and MIT are not in the habit of accepting students who have struggled at other colleges and want a do-over at one of the top three CS programs in the country. It just doesn’t work that way. It’s not about how much you want it. This is the kind of want that my mother used to answer with, “
 and I want to be the Queen of England.”

UTD is a good school. Get back on track and finish your degree. Get some research and/or internship experience. If you think you need an additional educational boost, consider an AI “boot camp” program - a lot of top-notch universities offer these. A second bachelor’s would be a huge waste of time and money, and you’re not in a position to get into the tier of school you are wishing for. Luckily, you can have a great career with a degree from the very good program that you’re already in.

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@aunt_bea he does not want to transfer
he wants to apply to get a second bachelors
unless I missed something!!

In one post, eh did. Hence the confusion.

@C.K

Please clarify. Are you looking to transfer to finish your first degree and get a second?

Or do you wish to apply for a second bachelors as most of this thread is addressing?

Regardless
read the above posts. You can achieve your career goals right where you are. Plus
you really don’t need a second bachelors, and you are unlikely to get accepted to these tippy top schools you have listed.

I will repeat what I said earlier. Get a job. Work a do some good things. Put some distance and experience between your bachelors and your next college thing
which I think should be a masters, not another bachelors.

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OP- skedaddle over to Career Development- don’t wait until next semester.

Sit down with someone who can discuss reasonable job opportunities for which you’ll be qualified once you finish your Bachelor’s. If these are things that interest you- terrific. You know what you need to do- finish strong. Show an upward trend. Connect with your professors (wonderful sources of ideas for networking in industry).

If you don’t like what you hear- then come back and the posters here can brainstorm with you on other career paths.

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OP, is it too late for you to switch your major at UTD? If not, then it might give you some time to improve your grades and change path.

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“ And I am not interested in pursuing my education at UTD. I want to transfer elsewhere (a.Carnegie or b.Stanford or c.M.I.T (or any other college with students involving in advancements in A.I, Robotics”

@Thumper1, I was confused because the OP provided the above information.

I was under the assumption that this person has NOT performed well, at UTD, and is assuming that by transferring to an elite school, he/she will “erase” current GPA, and thus improve his grades and goals at another university.

I was also under the assumption that this is an international student: “I used to be a topper” and he doesn’t realize that he can’t just wish for a “do-over” at a top university to meet his “high expectations”.

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Hoping @C.K clarifies.

My impression from the title was that he wanted to apply for a second bachelors degree from an elite program.

Re: if he is international? Well
that will definitely put a kink in his plans.

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Just another quick question, can a good ACT or SAT/GRE score help?

Help with what? If you are applying for a second bachelors degree
no one is going to care about your SAT score.

The GRE is for graduate school admissions, not undergrad admissions.

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oops. sorry I meant an improvement in my previous SAT score, ACT scores

Once more. If you are applying for a second bachelors, your college record will be considered. NOT your SAT score, and definitely not an SAT score you took after you graduated from high school.

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I didn’t understand your private message and was confused about the link. I didn’t open the link. Are you saying that you had an illness that affected your grades? If so, did you ask UTD for a medical leave? What does a twin robot have to do with your illness? Maybe someone on here can interpret it?

If you are currently attending UTD, and you “bombed”, and are hopeful that a “more prestigious” school will now accept you via transfer, (or after graduation) and will erase your grades from UTD, that is not going to happen.

Once those grades go to the registrar, those will stay on your college transcript. They are not erased and you don’t get a “do-over” unless you failed. The original “F” is still on the transcript and they will add the repeated course to the transcript.

You can’t apply to a school that is more competitive and expect that such a school would disregard your current grades. If anything, they expect you to perform above expectations if you hope to transfer.

There were thousands of students that were affected by Covid issues and some students were able to perform well despite their illnesses, or their parents issues and illnesses.

You can apply to CMU, but I wouldn’t expect a positive outcome.

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I’m reposting what I posted upstream.

First
could you please answer the questions??

Second
please understand that admission to highly competitive programs will not be likely with a lackluster academic performance coming in.

You absolutely need to put some distance between your first bachelors and your grades, and any future schooling. Get a job. Do well. Show that you have the potential to be a high achiever by doing so at a job.

Right now
you don’t appear to have that in your resume.

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