<p>kathiep, I found other naviance links helpful. What I did also, was google to find high schools within the states of colleges my son was interested in. One would be surprised at how many schools either do not require passwords, or actually post the password (one might have to do a bit of hunting to find them). I found that high schools in OH, for example, would give many more data points for schools in OH than our high school. It does not take much considering that less than a handful of students applied to a few schools in OH over the last 5 years.</p>
<p>Hey guys! I’m a rising senior and I have a 3.25 I received distinguished honor roll all year which was a definite improvement (3.75+) But my sats were weak I scored 1600, but I’m getting a tutor and have been studying a little over the summer!
I’m pretty sure I’m going to apply early decision to HPU. I love it there but I’m also looking to James Madison. I would love to play golf in college.</p>
<p>With Naviance, remember that many colleges may apply very different criteria to kids from different high schools and different states. At our HS, for example, some kids were admitted to Michigan, Binghamton, Pitt and Temple with stats which would have spelled rejection for in state kids, while neighboring HS’s did not fare nearly as well–but in state kids in Delaware, NC and Va have a sharp advantage over out of staters.</p>
<p>I’m struggling a little with the value of Naviance too. In part because so few students have graduated from my kids’ high school, and very few apply out of state. All of the colleges that admitted “people like” my son, show 100 percent of admittance… one student applied. I thought that wasn’t supposed to show up. Am I missing something?</p>
<p>Many variables don’t show up (ie: athlete, gender, race, applying for FA, auditioning or submitting a portfolio, and so on). </p>
<p>I just felt that if I found a high school with a lot of data points for a particular college, that it would give an idea of chance of acceptance. I looked at standardized test scores more than GPA bc grading is so different btn. high schools too.</p>
<p>I’ve done the same thing as Northeastmom, I look at the scattergrams of the schools that have a lot of students (a lot of data points) and then you can get a good general idea of what combo will work. With some colleges, you could see right off the bat what SAT was needed.</p>
<p>And don’t forget about using the college’s common data set. I prefer Naviance - since that gives me results specific to our hs and our grading scale - but if there are too few data points to be helpful - I would just find the common data set and look there. I would actually hesitate to use Naviance from another high school - they may have a different grading scale - different rigor - even on SAT scores - a 1200 might be enough at HS A, while you need a 1250 if you are coming from HS B.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts on the place of the median scores? My D’s GPA is general higher than the average at her safeties and matches, around where her reaches are (BUT they are total reaches–and some of the supposed “matches” might be too-- because the course rigor is lower than those schools typically see…). Her SATs eventually got up to nearly or right at the lowest part of the median on most schools she’s applying to-for no schools are they any higher than, say, 20 points above the bottom of the median.
My view is that this will serve to “keep her in the game”, that it makes her SATs neither an advantage nor a liability. Just in general, is that how you all see scores in that range?</p>
<p>ACS, I think you are right. Median and average scores can be distorted, however by some “admissions game” factors–colleges which are popular safeties for kids who really want to go elsewhere–flagships, Ivies–can seem misleadingly hard to get into, while colleges which bend their rules a lot for athletes, etc or have higher standards for in or out of staters, can seem easier than they actually are.</p>
<p>I suspect some LACs which need boys or full pay kids may also have misleadingly low stats for girls or those seeking aid.</p>
Shrinkrap, I think that’s a user preference that each school can set as it chooses. At our school the cutoff is 4 (i.e., if there are 3 or fewer data points no graph is displayed). But I think that’s a choice our guidance people made, not something hard-wired into the system.</p>
<p>I agree with you kathiep. You really can see with a lot of data points where one stands a chance, what is a safety, and what is a reach. Sure, some of these students are athletes, are from another part of the country, are not applying for FA, and so on. Still, one can see a pattern when a university had a lot of students from one high school applying. Nothing is a guarantee for your child, but it does offer a rough idea. Frankly, I was always more concerned about the cost, than admission!</p>
<p>nightchef, I think that you are correct about user preference. Our hs does not release data unless there are at least 4 students who applied.</p>
<p>We got our report cards today. 2 B’s and a C in my AP classes.</p>
<p>That’s the bad news.</p>
<p>The good news is I got 5’s in all 3. Do you think colleges will look at the 5’s and that they will serve to counteract the lower grades in classes? How does that work?</p>