<p>I don’t think he reads NY Times, not with a 3.2.</p>
<p>PS: I won’t be applying to Harvard or Yale but it is always good to have some reach colleges. Teachers have told me that me being from the Southeast and from a small rural town will help. I have seen tons of seniors with GPAs slightly higher than mines get accepted into BC and their SATs were in the 1800s. Their ECs were similar to those that I have.</p>
<p>"I don’t think he reads NY Times, not with a 3.2. "</p>
<p>I am a big fan of the site, read it ever day during the summer to help my critical reading score. Unfortunately I only learned English at the age of 12 because my family had to move around so much. Not aware of the fact that GPA determines actual intelligence, I have seen kids at local public schools with 4.0s and they have been complete idiots but teachers gave them their grades.</p>
<p>Actually looking back at some of the answers. My best bet would be to go to UVM or University of Delaware (if I get any type of financial aid or scholarships), get a fresh start and get into Harvard for grad school.</p>
<p>This time I have a plan…
hopefully this time I don’t get stick in the rural deep south because that is no place for an asian…</p>
<p>I read your other post on GPA vs SAT, about the kind of work you have to do at your school. You may think it’s impressive, but it’s not out of ordinary, and 4 hours of homework per night is normal for many students.</p>
<p>I don’t have very high IQ, I just work hard and don’t whine as much as you do. I also came to this country when I was 12 from Asia, lived in the whitest part of this country, my father worked at 3 jobs to support us. Yes, I graduated with 4.0 from HS, top 3% of the class. Your story has been told over many times, nothing new. You are going to have to come up with a better story to tell the adcoms.</p>
<p>Something tells me that this young man’s charm and affability will shine through in his application and essays, making him as irresistable to adcoms as he has proven to be here.</p>
<p>“I read your other post on GPA vs SAT, about the kind of work you have to do at your school. You may think it’s impressive, but it’s not out of ordinary, and 4 hours of homework per night is normal for many students.”</p>
<p>right</p>
<p>“I don’t have very high IQ, I just work hard and don’t whine as much as you do. I also came to this country when I was 12 from Asia, lived in the whitest part of this country, my father worked at 3 jobs to support us. Yes, I graduated with 4.0 from HS, top 3% of the class. Your story has been told over many times, nothing new. You are going to have to come up with a better story to tell the adcoms.”</p>
<p>Basically you attained a 4.0 back in the day, didn’t get in where you wanted and now you want to go on the internet and bash the aspirations of those who want to try out. Same story, been told many times.</p>
<p>What bothers me is that you are such a “hard worker” and such a “bright person”. Why not go out there and make your money instead of coming online and telling others that (me mainly) that they are good for nothing morons who won’t get into good universities. As for whining?</p>
<p>The Deep south is not the friendliest place in America. Forget the southern hospitality garbage, I had a Chinese friend who actually tried to run away from home. His family moved two years later and now he is in Pennsylvania, overall his parents make less money and the cost of living is higher but they love it. I haven’t walked in your shoes and you probably have not walked in mines, so keep the fictional stories for someone who cares because as I see it this is just pointless talk.</p>
<p>What do we accomplish?</p>
<p>Nothing, at the end of the day I am still applying to Boston College and Cornell. I make it I will be happy, I don’t make it, I will be happy at whatever college I go to.</p>
<p>I can say that I messed up when I was young, didn’t have parents around to help me and I was a 14 year old left out to face the cold world. I made some wrong decisions and because of those I won’t be going to Harvard or Yale (not for undergrad at least) but I can make one promise which I plan on keeping. </p>
<p>No matter what the circumstances, this “whiner” won’t be coming on internet sites in an attempt to discourage others from applying to good colleges and I won’t be calling everyone losers and whiners. I made this thread to get some help but this has been a disaster.</p>
<p>“Something tells me that this young man’s charm and affability will shine through in his application and essays, making him as irresistable to adcoms as he has proven to be here.”</p>
<p>Yes because you know me better than people do in real life.
Then again behavior on the internet determines success in life.</p>
<p>Now to see if I can keep one promise, to not visit this thread again. If you have any crucial info to tell me, then feel free to message me.</p>
<p>Don’t hold your breath.</p>
<p>Again, you have totally missed the point on what everyone is trying to tell you. No one is saying you wouldn’t be able to get into a good college. You could apply to any school you want, it is a free country. What these parents are telling you is that there are a lot of good schools between Cornell/BU and your safeties. Statistically, we have rarely seen anyone getting into those schools with a 3.2. Most high schools have Naviance chart to compare your stats with students who have gotten into those schools. Why don’t you ask your GC to show you the chart.</p>
<p>I did get into the school I wanted 25 years ago. I am doing well enough to pay for my kids’ private school from K-12 and any college they want to go to. I am on this board because when my older daughter was going through the college process, many parents gave me a lot of support and good advice. We are all here trying to help each other. It is the power of internet. This site also gives under privileged students more of a level playing field to compete with others (information is power). I personally have helped a few students to get off the waitlist (it is my specialty), and received thanks from those grateful students.</p>
<p>Many students do come here for help because their parents are first generation or their GCs are not very helpful or knowledgeable.</p>
<p>Is he a ■■■■■ or prankster? That would be the good news. If he isn’t, then he needs some attitude adjustment. :eek:</p>
<p>as i alluded to earlier, i don’t think that this is a real person.</p>
<p>if he is though, then best of luck to him.</p>
<p>This thread might be very helpful. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/707436-new-3-0-3-3-gpa-parents-thread.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/707436-new-3-0-3-3-gpa-parents-thread.html</a> One thing that I learned a long time ago from this forum is that it’s much smarter to find a college that fits you instead of trying to reinvent yourself to fit into a college. There is so much stress going through the college process and I’ve always encouraged my kids to look more for matches and safeties then reaches, but that’s just me. BTW, my son was waitlisted for UVM in 2005 with a 3.2 gpa.</p>
<p>Both Boston University and NYU have programs for students who do not get accepted to the individual colleges within the universities. BU has the College of General Studies. Students progress through a required curriculum for two years, and if successful can then transfer into any one of the colleges within BU to finish their degree. NYU has a similar program…don’t remember what it’s called.</p>
<p>The OP to this thread would likely gain acceptance to both of these programs, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Similarly, the OP could go to Emory at Oxford for 2 yrs and then transfer to Emory. Only problem is that he wants to get out of GA. Do you have any financial restrictions, protagonist, or can you afford any tuition?</p>
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<p>A number of you folks asked the finances question. The OP posted this on another thread. </p>
<p>I’ll weigh in now…$25,000 from the parents means that another $25,000 or so will have to come from somewhere else…either in the form of need based aid or in the form of loans taken by the family. Most of the schools on this OPs list are mighty pricey. BU and NYU give merit aid to students who they are highly interested in attracting. If the OP is a highly sought applicant, he might get aid. If not, both of these schools are not particularly generous with financial aid and neither meets full need anyway.</p>
<p>Brown and Cornell give only need based aid. No way to know whether the OP qualifies for this or not. UNC Chapel Hill and UVA are not generous with financial aid for OOS students and they are expensive. Ditto U of Vermont.</p>
<p>So…in addition to admissions issues, this OP should really run the family finances through one of the finaid calculators to get an estimate of what the schools will expect the family to contribute. That should also be put into the decision making process.</p>
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<p>Now he has parents who are willing to pay 25,000/year for college?</p>
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Does this mean parents will pay up to $25k in tuition PLUS room and board? That makes a big difference as that could be a lot of $$ —dorm rates, meal plans, books, student fees, etc all add up on TOP of tuition fees.</p>
<p>Protagonist, I find it interesting that you started a similar thread on the College Search and Selections section of this forum. The folks who responded there (I think mostly other students…but I don’t know that) gave you EXACTLY the same advice as you are getting here…Chances of getting accepted at an Ivy League school are slim to none. You are hearing this from all fronts (and yes, I know that thread was before you got your most recent SAT scores) but really…the score still isn’t what you would need for the Ivies.</p>
<p>You also indicate a need for financial aid of some sort. </p>
<p>I want to say what others are trying to say to you. I understand that you want to leave Georgia. Honestly, I have no problem with that. I think the college years ARE a good time to experience a new geographic area. BUT there are a LOT of schools between your Georgia safeties, and the schools you put on the list on this thread. Even YOU mentioned some others that are probably worth revisiting…what happened to the SUNY schools, John Carroll, U of Minnesota? Why did those schools get dropped in favor of the ones you added? These schools have modest prices and are in the affordability range for your family…and are FAR from Georgia.</p>
<p>If you really want to get out of GA, the safeties you pick should also be out of GA. The ones you listed elsewhere, Augusta State and Armstrong Atlanta are probaby not going to be to your liking. Mercer might be OK, but its pretty Christian. Have you checked this stuff out???</p>