35+ Score Thread

<p>OK, now to address recent criticisms, then I think it’s time to wrap this up unless there are legitimate questions as opposed to gripes.</p>

<p>Nwgolfer321, my son rarely studies for a test. Never in AP Physics, AP Stats or any previous math course. He will do the occasional quick review for a history or literature test. He’s not killing himself working hard, he very likely has more free time than most of you, even while taking more and harder classes.</p>

<p>A few here have called my older son “socially weak” for starting high school at age 9. Why would you make that assumption? That’s the FIRST thing the educators look at before admitting a very young kid to school 4 years early – no one had any doubt that he would be at the top of his high school classes academically! This kid grew up mainly talking to the adults around him because the kids his age were, from his perspective, almost ■■■■■■■■ – how well would you folks relate to a person your age with an IQ 30-50 points lower than yours?</p>

<p>Most of the adults he chatted with enjoyed his unique perspective, borne of deep insights combined with limited life experience (the exception: parents of other children his age). Indeed, my son would come up with the occasionally profound comment, like his explanation of race at age 3: “Some people are brown on the outside and pink on the inside and others are pink on the outside and brown on the inside.”</p>

<p>Given that he usually chatted with adults, who never talked down to him, how difficult do you think it was to merely chat with kids 4-6 years older? Seriously, guys, you make too much of this supposed age gap – when you get to college are you only going to talk to college freshman and not seniors or, god forbid, grad students?</p>

<p>Folks, I’m not going to tell you that attending high school at age 9 is an optimal solution – it’s not, but sometimes in life there ARE no ideal solutions. Gifted programs were way too slow. He was eager to learn more, more, more. The best solution we found was to have one older group for academics and discussions and a separate younger group for video games and fantasy role-playing.</p>

<p>Peytoncline, my first son took his first COLLEGE class when he was still 12. Not a problem, the professor loved him and his classmates were amused. My second son took his first at 15 and had a 25-year-old lab partner, who used to call him up to discuss the lab write-up. Again, no problem. The first son graduated high school at age 14 (got a 35 on his ACT at age 13) and went on to college. Never a problem with his classmates anywhere: when the age gap is large, the kids in both high school and college treat the youngster as a sort of younger brother; he’s a novelty, like a foreign exchange student.</p>

<p>Nwgolfer321, OK you got me, I exaggerated about my son learning Physics C Mechanics in a 3-day weekend. He actually only spent about half that weekend, maybe 12 hours tops, working on the Physics C because he had a history paper he was also working on. In all fairness, he had just taught himself Calculus BC and was taking Physics B in school, so he “only” had to learn the additional material. He of course did not spend time doing lots of sample problems or even memorizing the formulas: he’d look at a formula, consider its relationship to all the other physics formulas and place it directly into long-term memory as a “pattern.” If this sounds like magic, trust me it looked like that to me, too, but I had him take an old Physics C AP test 2 weeks later BEFORE doing any review and the result was a solid 5 plus 15-20%. He had not gained true mastery of all the material in that timeframe, but the threshold for a 5 on the AP is pretty low, about 55% right.</p>

<p>Fisawalab, over 80% of siblings have IQs within one standard deviation of one another (15 or 16 points), regardless of how high the first may score. We’re not talking about randomly plucking people from the general population.</p>

<p>Questionmark, the reason you don’t usually hear about these kids when they become adults is that have learned not to advertise it. Also, they tend to expand outward into multiple areas of expertise. I once worked with such a fellow – I had no trouble holding up my end of a conversation in a field I knew well. Then one day I heard him in a conversation with a physician on a cutting-edge topic. Another day I heard him discussing quantum mechanics with a professor of physics. Each person was challenged and had a good conversation; none was aware that this was merely one “corner” of his acquired knowledge base. </p>

<p>Your last point, questionmark, is a valid and important one: living a good life isn’t necessarily about being the next Einstein. But let’s consider what “living the good life” IS while you’re in school – isn’t part of it to have interesting classes that challenge you without frustrating you? If you were suddenly thrown back into a 5-grade classroom and were expected to pay attention to every minor detail and do pointless homework, would you be happy? Could you even succeed? How long until you became a troublemaker, the class clown, the kid waiting to drop out the first day it was allowed? Living a good life is very much about avoiding boredom.</p>

<p>My only concern is that if he does have good social skills, he certainly hasn’t learned them from his father. I think it is healthier for everyone if we drop this topic.</p>

<p>You’re not allowing him to simply have a life. He’s going to be younger than we all were when we started college by the time he eventually graduates from college, and by then he will have missed the opportunity to simply have a normal teenage life.</p>

<p>“the kids his age were, from his perspective, almost ■■■■■■■■.”
You are ridiculous. Or, more accurately put, your son is ridiculous. To go into a school and think that you are superior is a severe social issue. The idea of school is to expose yourself to different people- smart or not smart, whatever, you define as smart- so that you may develop different perspectives on life. To call other people “■■■■■■■■” is rude. I take offense to that, as I have a mentally ill cousin. Are you sure you are an adult? </p>

<p>I am honestly wondering why your son isn’t here posting his scores if he has so much free time. It scares me when parents like you obssess over your children. Your son will have serious psychological problems in the future. Period. You can say what you want, but that is a fact. Please stop patting your son on the back by posting his scores online like a prize, because honestly, you sound like an arrogant fool who likes to show off. Perhaps you have psychological issues?</p>

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I think you just won the award for most hilarious parent on CC ever. I must apologize for misunderstanding you. I now realize the sheer adversity that your son faced in actually having to converse with human beings that had IQs 30-50 points below him, what a brave kid. I am not so audacious and thus spend my days sheltered in my ivory tower among other superior humans of similar intellect, too afraid to venture into that mystical place called the real world in which I might actually have to communicate with lesser beings than I.</p>

<p>If nothing else, the absolute idiocy of your posts destroys any credibility you have.</p>

<p>^^^^^^^^ Agreed.</p>

<p>I just scored a 35 on the ACT… are we still posting scores on this thread? :p</p>

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<p>Great post. +1. This is expected from a 2400er lol. :D</p>

<p>I give +1 to williefresh XD</p>

<p>I don’t know my ACT scores yet since I took the test on standby (although they’re probably a lot lower than a 35). However, I read through this whole thread because I found the whole argument over this 9-year-old kid amusing. Let LoremIpsum do what he wants, arguing with him only “feeds” him, so to speak, by letting him describe (and brag about) in further detail how amazing his kids are.</p>

<p>Congratulations on having smart children, but let them brag for themselves at least. A smart 9 year old doesn’t bug me, but your posts just seem really weird.</p>

<p>Hey, LoremIpsum, I for one would like to congratulate you. There’s seems to be a notion that a prodigy has only achieved his or her success through the relentless pushing of the parents. Every kid is wired differently - you would’ve been foolish to hold him back just so he could experience some quality mall and x-box time with his peers.</p>

<p>Yeah. Wow. </p>

<p>Btw, just because your 9 year old had an IQ equivalent or higher than high school students, does not mean he is SOCIALLY mature enough. But that’s not the point I was trying to make. I was saying that homeschooled kids are socially awkward to general students, almost always. Add that to a calc doing nine year old, yikes.</p>

<p>I don’t think you should judge the students on here and say that your son studies a lot less than we do or try to hold him over our heads.</p>

<p>Last thought, this kid should have a wiki page or something. Right?</p>

<p>“Add that to a calc doing nine year old, yikes.”</p>

<p>I read that as “…a crack doing nine year old.” I can’t read :(</p>

<p>^Wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case.</p>

<p>A 9 year old does not belong in a setting where a big part of it involves drugs, sex, alcohol, and all the drama that comes with a typical high school. Just saying.</p>

<p>First, I need to apologize for the fact that, in my writing haste, I made a poor and improper analogy in my last post. I don’t see any way to make revisions to my earlier post or I would.</p>

<p>Thanks, Varska, for the kind words; I hope you don’t get flamed for them!</p>

<p>I began posting here with the intent of letting you more competitive teens understand that many of the toughest competitors you will face for admission to the super-elite colleges are the type who don’t post online and don’t brag about their accomplishments in school; most of the truly exceptional kids, like my sons, have long since learned to keep their mouths shut about the fact that they are so different, so out of the mainstream. There are thousands of these kids nationwide.</p>

<p>I tried to give you that rarely-seen silent perspective. Somehow this devolved into me attempting to briefly summarize every tough parenting decision I have had to make over the last decade and a half to a bunch of amateur psychoanalysts with no experience in actually raising a family. I’m fine with a healthy argument, but we now seem to be hung up on a round-robin tag team of the same handful of posters obsessed with exactly what my older son did when he was 9 – he’s 20 now, folks, and doing just fine – let’s move on.</p>

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<p>I’m fairly certain many CCers, including myself, DO deal with that everyday. If that was the poor analogy you referred to, my apologies for bringing it up.</p>

<p>ok im over this argument.</p>

<p>“Hey, LoremIpsum, I for one would like to congratulate you. There’s seems to be a notion that a prodigy has only achieved his or her success through the relentless pushing of the parents. Every kid is wired differently - you would’ve been foolish to hold him back just so he could experience some quality mall and x-box time with his peers.”</p>

<p>Good job missing the sarcasm in Varska’s post, Lorem. Okay, joke’s over. ■■■■■ no more, please. Kthxbai</p>

<p>“in my writing haste, I made a poor and improper analogy in my last post”
I don’t think haste can produce those kinds of words. You just like to show off your son’s accomplishments, perhaps because you yourself have not done well in life and are a failure. Ope, sorry, haste has caused me to make that poor comment.</p>

<p>“most of the truly exceptional kids, like my sons, have long since learned to keep their mouths shut about the fact that they are so different”</p>

<p>Then why are you posting your kid’s scores here?</p>

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<p>I would like to congratulate you for not only being the most hilarious but also the most oblivious parent to ever visit this forum. It seems that in your epic journey to nurture an omnipotent being, you never learned the meaning of sarcasm.</p>