<p>I have a friend that just scored a 36 on his ACT... and scored a perfect SAT score as well. He has a 2.8 GPA, and 4 perfect SAT 2 subject tests. What are his chances at brown PLME and yale?</p>
<p>Zero.............</p>
<p>how can you say zero, seriously, the kid is obviously ridiculously smart, and I'm pretty sure most colleges anywhere would welcome him</p>
<p>Obviously, with an AI of 219, it all depends on the reason for the 2.8 GPA--death in the family--homelessness (Harvard actually admitted someone with almost these exact same stats about 3 years ago who was homeless when they applied)--parents divorcing, having to work to support one's family, did they have a major accident that caused them to get terrible grades for just one semester (like a D average) or were they at a real academically backward high school and just completely bored with the poor academic program.</p>
<p>If none of these apply, then it's unlikely that a Brown or Yale (or most any prestige college) will take a chance on them--they are just plain lazy. But if one of those situations does apply--and they have some proof--then it's a completely different situation.</p>
<p>25% of Harvard admits have a 1590 (old) or higher and it could be 100% many times over. Looking at AI is just stupid when it comes to top colleges. A perfect SAT score will not make up for anything. There are tons of kids, better known as underachievers, who do far better on SATs than their GPAs would suggest. Best bet for this type is state schools where the SAT could make up for low PA and rank. Not a chance at a top private.</p>
<p>I agree with suze. There was a guy on here - I think his sn was thatindiandude - who had a 3.3 GPA, perfect SAT I & II, and killer piano awards (e.g. Carnegie Hall) that was rejected at all the Ivies and waitlisted at Chicago. If they're afraid you won't graduate, you'll be rejected.</p>
<p>suze wrote: </p>
<p>"Looking at AI is just stupid for top colleges. " </p>
<p>Yeah, I guess that's why every single Ivy league college admits to using it as one of the primary measures in their admission decisions--since it's so stupid. </p>
<p>The AI takes into account not just test scores but also grades--something that your comment in your original post implies is not being considered.</p>
<p>2.8 gpa means less than a b average means no chance whatsoever, doesnt matter how good ur standardized test scores are, if anything it just shows that your really lazy and dont work hard or apply yourself</p>
<p>Brown maybe, they are very eclectic with admissions at times. Not HYP.</p>
<p>doing so good on test scores and having such a low GPA just shows that he is lazy</p>
<p>I think suze is a troll.</p>
<p>Suze has been on here much longer than you have; she's helped people, and has been through the process herself. Sure, anything can happen and the person can get in, if he isn't being recruited or has some other hook, but chances are slim, even though everyone has a chance. Suze is just giving a little dose of reality.</p>
<p>i think it is pretty messed up for people to assume that if a kid has a high SAT and low GPA he is automatically lazy or an underachiever when they have no clue about the person or what he has gone through to have a low GPA. </p>
<p>to the OP, does this kid have a rising trend for his GPA?</p>
<p>Does he have a low GPA, because he goes to a very rigourous school?? If he's in the top ten percent, then his GPA wouldn't be considered so low.</p>
<p>I don't know of any school that is rigorous as top 10 percent being a 2.8 GPA. I know here in CA, the OP's friend would barely be UC eligible. I don't know for sure, but PLME is probably on par with admissions to HYPSM.</p>
<p>what is AI???
I've seen it used several times but I don't know what it means(or for that matter how to calculate it).
Can anyone explain??</p>
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what is AI???
I've seen it used several times but I don't know what it means(or for that matter how to calculate it).
Can anyone explain??
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<p>Suze tells it like it is for the most part. People just never want to accept reality.</p>
<p>I agree with suze in this case, although we have our differences occasionally.</p>
<p>It's my understanding that suze has not yet entered college --I believe she's scheduled to enter Dartmouth in the Fall (I'm sure she'll update us on this if she wishes to). Yet, it is obvious from some of her posts that she has more knowledge than the average high school senior/college freshman relative to the college admissions process--which is why people on this board pay close attention to her posts. The same applies to flopsy, who I believe is a college sophomore at UCLA, but whom obviously knows the UC system (admissions and scholarship programs) extremely well.</p>
<p>I think we should be thankful that knowledgeable students like these take the time to help out others with their admissions questions.</p>