4 years to do double major plus pre med?

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<p>HaHeHo - when someone calls you “an overeager dreamer” and you respond with “dbag”, you are the one who comes out looking worse.</p>

<p>You have received a multitude of advice from people on this board, people who have been through all these things that you have not, people who are (unusual these days) honestly willing and trying to offer you solid guidance. Your “virtual presence” is YOUR product, and all we have to go on, and once you started getting criticism it turned ugly. If you do not respect this advice, and feel a need to escalate whenever someone offers a criticism, I suggest you go somewhere else.</p>

<p>If, on the other hand, you genuinely want good advice, I recommend you listen to what has been offered - NeoDymium was offering some solid advice, as were the others in this thread. Those going into college are almost always significantly overconfident or significantly underconfident, and if you are one of the small fraction who correctly realize that they are smart enough and dedicated enough to walk you proposed path then congratulations, the opinions of those on this board should not bother you. And if not… listen.</p>

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<p>I have heard that med schools like those with different backgrounds than premed and some really like those with engineering backgrounds.
I’d say if you would like to do environmental work as a fallback then do bio engineering and environmental as a double. Some of the courses will overlap and you will get the biology you need for med school plus bio would be good if you want to do environmental work. Stick with bio and environmental engineering then go to med school. If med school somehow doesn’t work out go for grad in environmental. As for writing maybe an EC but I’m sure you will be doing plenty of writing anyways and no one said you couldn’t take writing courses in your general education requirements. Just because you like many things does not mean you need to be certified in them try and think and boil down exactly what you want to be and anything else will fit in somehow.</p>

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<p>Remember that med schools expect lots of community service, time shadowing physicians, and bio medical research is also highly valuable, especially several years’ worth. With your proposal for so much course work, there will not be enough time for these very important activities.</p>

<p>If you want to be overloaded with work and do pre-med, go to Cornell or Hopkins. Any major, not just engineering, but engineering has a reputation for being the worst. </p>

<p>By the way, med schools mainly care about GPA/science GPA, and MCAT scores, in addition to community service, shadowing and biomedical research. The rest of your curriculum is for your personal gain, and will not give you an edge with medical school admission committees, no matter the double/triple major.</p>

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<p>HaHeHo: You seem to be a very ambitious person. I get that from you. You want to give yourself all kinds of opportunities, but you also want to make sure you’re realistic about them; you want to follow your dreams, but you want to provide a comfortable mattress to fall back on. And especially since you’re an international student, you’ve got an hour glass that sets you a limit. This is what I am sensing.</p>

<p>If this is indeed true, then nothing is wrong with it. We’re all entitled to our dreams, right? We all plan and hope and try to organize stuff? I’ve personally been suffering from trying to tackle all kinds of things as well. I want to double-major in writing and rhetoric and French while preparing for law school. I also plan on studying abroad next year. I’ll have to take classes for a few summers to graduate in 4 years, and I’ll also have to maintain a stellar GPA, but I’m game, as you are in with your goals.</p>

<p>However, sometimes, we have to step back to look at it fully. You’ve been offered some great advice from people on this thread, and though some are harsh and may have said things you don’t want to hear, I think you need to just plainly start college and see where life takes you. You don’t have to declare anything for the first semester, so just ease in and see what you can take. You’ll see how different it is, and most importantly, you’ll find that 8 classes a semester will probably be unattainable. (At least at first) </p>

<p>So, my advice for you would be to just to take it oke stepfather a time and find out what you really want. I know it sounds lame and generalized, but it’s definitely a start. :slight_smile: Good luck!</p>

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<p>Oops… “one step at a time.” not “oke stepfather a time.” lol!</p>

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<p>@HaHeHo</p>

<p>Ok so you seem to be shooting down a lot of other people’s ideas on this thread so let me ask you then…</p>

<p>What is your plan of action? Has it stayed the same or have you come up with a new plan? I’m asking because I care, and I don’t like to see someone destroy their dreams because they don’t have the financial aid to pay for college because they have spent all of it, due to ignorance.</p>

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<p>Jnelsonmarka: you said: “what is your plan of action?” </p>

<p>I sincerely believe that he has answered your question and told us in the title of this discussion: 4 years to do double major plus pre-med. The man, Haheho, is genius and he does not need to prove it to anybody or even to himself. </p>

<p>We all are wasting our time in telling this genius. Well, if he is not genius then he is just show-boating his prowess in english…because he wants to do double major in Engineering plus pre-med and minor in English, all to be done in four (04) years. Then off to med. school with the stellar records.</p>

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<p>@cosmicfish I came here looking for something very specific. Advice.when people gave it…i sincerely thanked them…when I got answers like insane and all tht shhh, then I gave the people who said tht exactly wht they deserved. Plz look at post #4 and tell me wht I had done to get that?
Criticism is supposed to be based on a fact, I don’t think that being told that i dont seem talented enough to succeed is useful criticism.it’s his personal judgment. I’m looking for advice remember.
If u look at the previous posts,.me and neo had a civil exchange of opinions and ideas. It got ugly when he gave his unwarranted opinion, one that was neither asked for nor welcome here. One that he gave not knowing anything about me. And I don’t like that.I just don’t. Hence I retaliated. That’s wht I do. I’m not gonna sit here and let anyone say all kinds of stuff just coz they helped me.
When u help, yay u,thank u. But that doesn’t give anyone a free pass to pass comments at a personal level…</p>

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<p>@everyone else.
Thx for the advice!!!</p>

<p>It was said before that I should choose between engineering and pre med.I have decided to look at LACs… From what I have read they not only give excellent pre med courses, but they also give me the chance to indulge myself in writing and other things I love. As for a major, environmental studies or geology…still thinking about that…</p>

<p>@jan2013… U got it wrong again :slight_smile: the title of the discussion is : 4 years to do double major plus pre med?.. U missed the question mark…it implies that I’m looking for advice…moreover the title is followed by a very detailed post that highlights my questions/queries…</p>

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<p>My final piece of advice here is that you need to get some thicker skin. If you get offended this easily over essentially nothing, you will have a tough time in life dealing with other people.</p>

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<p>I like the idea of at least trying the fundamental courses your first year. That way, you can find out if you’re even up for the intense coursework you’re likely to be faced with either way.</p>

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<p>Here is my view on the matter at hand:
first of all let’s quantify your pproposition, you have 7 days a week X 24 hours a day = 168 hours a week, let’s take off about 8 hours of sleep each day and you get 112 hours left in your week, now engineering majors are designed to require somewhere between 40-60 hours of work each week so a double major means at the best case scenario taking off another 80 hours a week leaving you with about 32 hours of free time each week which will include every action you do other than sleeping and studying and that’s without pre med, so you can conclude on your own it’s almost impossible to do your plan.</p>

<p>Now, with that out of the way let’s look at the alternatives, one option is to do Chem.E with a concentration in biological processes which should give you almost everything you need and if not it will have enough syngery with the pre-med requirements that it won’t take much more of your time, but with that said engineering tends to be fairly hard and even for a bright person getting a 3.8 GPA will be really hard and in the long run if you get accepted to med school all this work won’t be really woth the effort you’ve put, that is if you actually manage to keep that high of a GPA, also the deal with BME is pretty much the same so maybe engineering is not the best option to go with, so what’s next?</p>

<p>My opinion is that if you’re really intrested in med school you should forget about the safety net and try to go into the major that will allow you to get the highest GPA while completing all or most of your pre med requirments such as molecular biochemistry or clinical lab studies (basically an expanded version of molecular biochemistry that subtitutes some courses in biology with more medical courses, the idea is that it trains people that will run the labratories in hospitals and happens to be a great program for pre med, except I’m not sure it’s offered in the USA, I saw mention of such programs only in Israel until now).</p>

<p>The idea is that such programs will allow you to get the best preperation for med school and allow you addmision,and in case you do not get addmited just do what you were going to do anyway, study for 3-4 years and get a useful degree in an area of your intrest, you could go for sometype of engineering if you want, I mean you were going to study in those years anyway but instead of studying medecine study something else, for me it seems the best route to maxmize your chances of getting into med school and follow your dream even though it might not be financially optimal, of course you could follow the other option I’ve stated above and it will be more viable financially but again I’d advise to be sure you can actually do it.</p>

<p>Now on a more personal matter, you seem to be a really fragile person, feeling attacked when seeing the slightest hint of discouragment from the other forum users, and I must say that is a very problematic charesteristic, every single user (and I mean every single one, I have read the whole thread) came here with the intent of helping you and not a single one of them actually insulted you, to be quite honest with you they gave tou good advice(s) and continued to try and do so even when you attacked them but in the end they gave up. What I’m trying to get to is that you seem to be a bit too fragile for your own good as you just insulted the people tha t tried to help you and ended up hurting yourself and not getting the advice that you needed so I’d reccomend to try and work on this charestirestic of yours because it will hurt you in the future.</p>

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<p>kartos thx for the post…u probably missed my post #49, where i have said that i changed the “plan on action” from double engineering to something else BASED on personal research and the USEFUL advice i was given here…</p>

<p>i don’t think that standing up for what i believe in is fragile…im not the kinnda person by nature to “take it easy” when people call me insane…even more so, when the person is question is some stranger on the internet…its not who i am and i have no intention of changing that…perhaps u should be more worried about how easy it is for people to say such things on the internet behind the mask of anonymity and to judge people for no obvious reasons…i did not come here looking for a analysis of my intellectual capability.</p>

<p>since u profess that u have read every post, can u give one instance where i attacked any person because they advised me? my retaliation was entirely based on UNWANTED, UNWARRENTED AND UNEEDED judgment, that most people here are generous enuf to hand out so freely… more so, im amazed how they keep on JUSTIFYING IT! did i once say that my initial plan was perfect? All helpful advice was heeded…the rest is something people should learn to keep to themselves…its astonishing how the world keeps claiming that its moved past its primitive nature, about how accepting it is, how people don’t judge others based on colour, gender, sexual orientation, and yet, the moment people become ANONS they abandon all the morality of a civilized community and scrutinize other people to such lengths…</p>

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<p>kartos: you forgot one thing. This genius also wants to minor in English. And he wants to finish them all within four years. If he is not genius then what?..well, as the World turns, if not of such then he is the Young and the Restless?..I really miss Opie in Andy Griffith show. Opie was not opi-nionated at all, such a well behaved kid.</p>

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<p>The only thing unwarranted here at this point, HaHeHo, is your attitude.</p>

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<p>As seen above…jan2013 has once again given us 60 words of pointless. An epitome of nothing useful…</p>

<p>and boneh3ad is trying to justify something even he knows has no justification.</p>

<p>my attitude is a perfect example of what goes around, comes around boneh3ad…perhaps u should visit ur pervious posts and check out ur attitude before u question my…</p>

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<p>HaHeHo—</p>

<p>As someone who just stumbled upon this thread and has read it all in one sitting,here is what I see:</p>

<p>You proposed something just about impossible, yet are seeking advice. When told that your IDEA is insane (not you personally), then YOU got personal, with the d-bag comment.</p>

<p>After YOU got personal, then others got personal.</p>

<p>Again, just because you didn’t like the advice that you asked for, YOU got personal. Nobody insulted you until you amped it up.</p>

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<p>“When told that your IDEA is insane (not you personally), then YOU got personal, with the d-bag comment.”</p>

<p>That where you are mistaken MADad…</p>

<p>Btw this is getting very confusing but i’ll try to explain…</p>

<p>You see, the IDEA being insane as u say it…was said WAYYYY earlier in the thread and the dbag comment has nothing to do with it!!!</p>

<p>It got personal when neo stated “You sound more like an overeager dreamer than a person talented enough to get everything done”</p>

<p>And that’s pretty personal to me!!! THAT’S when it got personal…and the dbag comment was related to that!.</p>

<p>If u read again…when my IDEA was called wishful thinking and borderline insane…i replied with “yes it is wishful thinking, coz thats how people learn and improve, im sorry im not sorry, i wasnt born with the wisdom u seem to posses…”</p>

<p>“After YOU got personal, then others got personal”
So its pretty much established that i wasn’t the one who got personal first…</p>

<p>You say “Again, just because you didn’t like the advice that you asked for, YOU got personal. Nobody insulted you until you amped it up.”</p>

<p>If u read post #14…u will see “texaspg : thx for the reply, u seem to have reasoned it very well, which has got me thinking about environmental science instead of engineering…</p>

<p>Jann2013: ill do tht. and FYI i honestly respect ur answers, the helpful ones that is, my problem is with the sarcasm and patronization that comes with it… frankly u could do without it, its not only juvenile but also quite…well useless…”</p>

<p>NOT ONCE did i say no to ANY advice…did i? If i did…plz post with the revelent material…
If u read post #49…u will see the REVISED PLAN…thats still in working…i revised it with the help of the useful advice i got here!!!
If u still have any questions plz post again, i will be more than happy to clarify all doubts!!</p>

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<p>Good luck in life. You may be an absolute genius but with an attitude like this you won’t be able to make the connections you need to get ahead very easily. You really need to work on a lot of this attitude if you want to succeed. Have other people in this thread been a bit harsh? Perhaps. But it has all been perpetuated by you, HaHeHo. This only got out of hand when you started attacking people.</p>

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<p>That’s your opinion…according to me it got out of hand when the users launched a witch hunt to crucify me for suggesting such an insane idea/plan…thts when it got out of hand…
i was looking for some advice…its that simple…i got it…covered in sarcasm, patronization and judgments on what kinnda person i am…did i make it this complicated? i beg to differ…</p>