<p>^ Same thing I was thinking.</p>
<p>The bigger issue is his second statement. Fine, it's understandable to be (or expect to be) uncomfortable in new situations and be awkward around new people, especially if you perceive a certain difference (even if it doesn't exist) in those people.</p>
<p>But his second statement, that Asian girls and sexy and Asian guys are smart, is really pretty unforgivable. No one is being closed-minded by condemning that. Regardless of cultural upbringing, that's a pretty ridiculous statement.</p>
<p>yea i do agree, though, that second statement was a really really stupid thing to say...</p>
<p>All of you asians getting mad at him is the reason he probably thinks whatever about asians in general. If you could possibly chill out and not act like you could kill him in a fight..cause let's face it - you can't, then maybe he would think differently.
Go to Cal, meet different races that you aren't accustomed to, and have fun.</p>
<p>I go to a public high school in San Francisco which is about 85-90% Asian, 55% is nothing.</p>
<p>Lots of people think Asian girls are sexy, and lots of people think Asian guys are smart. Most Americans have been brought up with enough political correctness to know better than to say it so bluntly, but I have heard quite a few Asians in Asia who have said similar things regarding whites and blacks. :|</p>
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lol no public highschool in san francisco is 85-90% asian</p>
<p>I can understand why some people question the large percentage of any race (even white ;))</p>
<p>My kid graduated from a science at UCI, at the ceremony there were more than 500 graduate, less than 10% had a non-Asian name. In the years studying that science most of the Asian kids were also ESL so they all spoke to each other in their first language and it did not really promote a lot of mixing. Sad. It was not the race category that was the issue, it was the insular result of so many kids being ESL, it could be any race that caused kids to 'hang' with their 'own kind'</p>
<p>My kid at Berkeley has friends of most races and there are some people who do hang with their own and others that mix it up. It does seem like the ones who mix cross cultural barriers are NOT ESL, and that makes sense, I barely speak a 2nd language and certainly am not comfortable joking around in that 2nd language; if I were an ESL student in a country speaking that language, I could read the books, but I would certainly look for other English speakers when I want to relax</p>
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<p>To OP: I think the engineering students at Cal are offended by your sexy Asian female comment. </p>
<p>Berkeley is wonderful in that it is truly a melting pot. Many colleges boast of their diversity, however at Cal, diversity means so much more than ethnic background. While 42% of ~25,000 undergraduates are Asian, only 18% of the 10,000+ graduates which means that ~12,000 of ~35,000 students are Asian or ~33%. Additionally, grouping every Asian country + India into one broad category falsely give some students a misconstrued view of the actual student body. I hope this perspective will ease any reservations about applying. </p>
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<p>I agree with some posters that suggest Cal would be an excellent cultural experience for you. Not only are the students extremely diverse ethnically, they are truly diverse in the views. Even the immediate surrounding community is diverse, right down to the transients.</p>
<p>hahahaha</p>
<p>Most Eastern Europeans think like Ivan. </p>
<p>Oops, I just made a generalization! :O</p>
<p>to Viper247's comment: "There are 4000 undergraduate white girls at Berkeley. That's more than any high school in California.</p>
<p>However, you are probably not competent enough to woo them over. UCSB fits you better"</p>
<p>I' m not sure that just because you go to a school which has widespread hotness (like UCSB or USC), you can get attractive women easier. In fact I feel it might be the opposite, as you will have much more competition (since hot women have much more men to choose from). Maybe I'm wrong, but who knows.</p>
<p>This thread needs to die.</p>
<p>I agree with those who say Ivan shouldn't be given so much flak.</p>
<p>East European have very few non-white minorities and aren't anywhere near as influenced by political correctness as the West. Think US in the 1960's. Hence the understandable reaction.</p>
<p>That Asian girls are sexy is a subjective statement, but that Asian guys are smart is accurate according to the results of numerous IQ tests (<a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/IQ-4races-rotate-highres.png%5B/url%5D">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bd/IQ-4races-rotate-highres.png</a>). Don't see the reasons for Asians to complain about these compliments either. :)</p>
<p>If it's true that Cal has already 55% Asian, I think the admissions' officers of Cal must review the policy about races and representation at Cal as I don't think it would be very attractive to go to a school that's 55% Asian if the school's location is AMERICA. </p>
<p>By the way, I'm half Asian.</p>
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are you saying that 55% Asians or any minority are unacceptable when 55% white are ok?
Asians are not Americans? uhhhhh
I hope you think again on your definition of AMERICA…</p>
<p>^ No, it’s a valid statement. 55% Asian doesn’t reflect the general population of America, so in that sense it is a bubble, and would not really indicate what “general America” is like to a foreigner (or even bay area kid like myself).</p>
<p>Since 55% Asian does reflect America, in that only a few cultures value education highly enough to put in the high effort needed to rise to the top. Asian cultures and Jewish culture have done this. Universities used to have quotas to keep the proportion of Jewish students down to look more like the general population, otherwise the top schools would have a ‘disproportionate’ mix. Do we want a similar quota for Asians? </p>
<p>There is some value in exposing students to diversity and the broad mix of backgrounds, peoples, and ideas, thus schools do want to ensure that they don’t become totally monolithic. As well, there are social interests in providing opportunities to groups whose low proportions are partly due to past systemic disadvantages. However, there are huge advantages to having the best and the smartest around. I would argue that these other factors, ensuring diversity and righting wrongs, should not become the majority factors in admission, just an adjustment or correcting or slight bias factor. Skewing admissions to even out the mix geographically across California should not come at the expense of dramatically lowering the quality of the student body, nor should skewing the mix of historical geographic origin be more than a minor adjustment. </p>
<p>If the school is 55% Asian, the challenge is to those from other historical geographic origins and cultural backgrounds - why don’t you value education more highly and make the sacrifices that were made every day by the 55% to come to this point? Ultimately the mix IS representation of America - the mix of those who care enough to strive ultra hard and who believe education is a route upwards and to success. </p>
<p>BTW - Not Asian or Jewish. It shouldn’t matter, but some may assume this is written otu of personal advantage.</p>
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<p>The US is about 5% Asian; California is about 13% Asian.</p>
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<p>Might be hard to find “general America” in any part of the US. Maine? 94% white (non-Hispanic). Hawaii? 39% Asian, 25% two or more races. Texas? 38% Hispanic.</p>
<p>The asians EARN their spots.</p>
<p>And if you don’t think some asian girls are sexy, then as a 56 year old guy, I would say that youth is wasted on the young.</p>
<p>Anyone know if this guy got in?
LULZCAT!</p>