A little info on AmeriCorps?

<p>I am the proud owner of one hs junior who's a little ambivalent/unfocussed/underperforming. ("Ah, boys. . . .") One option we've discussed is having him take a year off after high school to think about the future, mature a bit, figure out the next step. I am aware of AmeriCorps and have been to their web site, but I'm wondering who might have some summary information/suggestions. (It sounds like the NCCC program is what he/we might be interested in? He could commit full-time for 10-12 months and I think it'd do him good to get a change of scenery.)</p>

<p>Positives/negatives? Costs? . . . ??? (I'm also a little confused about the "Tell us your interest" options. Community safety, health, housing, . . . ? I'm not sure my DS has a particular interest.) (I guess that's part of the problem.)</p>

<p>S, 20, did Americorps for a year after high school before going to college. He is a very smart guy, but was unfocused in high school and underperformed greatly. For instance, he had CR, M scores in the 98th percentile, yet graduated with about a 2.7 unweighted. He also somehow just never got around to doing his college apps even though he loved school, and wanted to go to college. Other than take him to see colleges, I didn't help him with apps because I'd learned my lesson about micromanaging high school seniors: I'd organized older S's college apps, made sure he got them in on time, and then he went away to the college of his choice and flunked out from too much partying (This from a guy who before college had only gone to work and home, and never partied, not even going to prom).</p>

<p>My younger S had always loved volunteering -- any kind of activity in which he could help others. Before he missed his college app deadlines, I'd suggested that he take a gap year instead of applying to college, but he said he didn't want to do that because he was afraid he'd lose momentum academically.</p>

<p>After, however, he missed his deadlines, he talked to our local volunteer office -- where he had been responsibly volunteering for years -- and they created an Americorps volunteer position, which he applied for and got. Interestingly, he'd said that he wanted to live away from home, preferably out of state, but he ended up living at home while doing Americorps. Americorps pays a living stipend, and he could have rented a cheap, shared apartment, but he didn't do that either. I even had an acquaintance who was looking for someone to house sit her place and take care of her cat. All he'd have had to do was pay utilities. He passed on that, too.</p>

<p>I think he knew he wasn't ready to leave home and go to college, so he ended up living at home and doing Americorps. We did have him pay rent --$50 a week, and he had to pay gas for our car that we let him use. Our rule is that adult offspring who live at home and aren't in school fulltime have to pay rent. We've seen too many college drop-out kids get overly comfy at home, and develop unrealistic ideas of how far their meager wages can go, while not paying rent. </p>

<p>Americorps ended up being perfect for our son. His experience started with training tat was done out of state (Americorps paid expenses for this) and included time management, grant writing, career planning among other things. </p>

<p>Americorps lets their volunteers run with their interests and talents. S did disaster relief and headed a youth program. He also wrote a grant. He represented his agency at meetings involving city officials. Often, he was by far the youngest person there. He still doesn't have appreciation for how connected he is in this area, He personally knows people like a representative in the state House, the mayor's assistant, an assistant superintendent of schools.</p>

<p>Through his work requirements, he also learned that in the work world -- just as is the case in school -- one can't procrastinate. For instance, he had to spend several nights in the office very late doing his monthly reports. </p>

<p>He also learned more about what his particular talents and interests are. One reason he'd had a hard time with college apps is that he's got very broad interests, and was interested in fields ranging from engineering to psychology to education.</p>

<p>His Americorps work helped him realize how much he enjoys being in an environment in which he can work closely with others. He also developed appreciation for his talent and interest in the visual arts due to his getting such enjoyment out of creating flyers and graphics for Americorps projects.</p>

<p>And he became much more comfortable working with people of all kinds, including adults. </p>

<p>When he went to college -- a liberal arts college due to his realizing how much he vales mentors and how much he likes to be able to intellectually explore a lot of things, he demonstrated more maturity and appreciation than do many college students.</p>

<p>Although he's at a college known for partying, and had a roommate that partied, there's no evidence that S got very involved in that kind of life. Instead, he took great advantage of things like movie festivals, guest speakers, ECs that allowed him to delve into learning new things, and he took a wide variety of coursework including some that were things that interested him, but that he had never tried before.</p>

<p>He has seemed to appreciate the fact that college is a rare time in one's life in which one has such a panoply of intellectual activities to choose from. </p>

<p>He also had the guts to take leadership roles in some activities including organizing a group to make a movie for the campus movie festival (an EC), and offering some leadership training to a campus organization.</p>

<p>His grades have been good: He's carrying about a 3.3 while working 14 hours a week and participating in a variety of ECs. He also has carried a heavy enough courseload that while he's a second semester soph, he has the credits to be a first semester junior.</p>

<p>My son is also an Americorps Alum. and had a great experience. My son was older when he worked with Americorps, and managed to get a half-time position while he was attending school at the same time as a college junior, after a 3-year hiatus from school. But even with only half a stipend, he was living on his own and managed to make ends meet. He really loved working for Americorps - he was given a lot of flexibility and encouraged to structure his own responsibilities. His main job was as a volunteer recruiter -- the volunteers in turn worked in the local schools and/or afterschool program. He also did that work as well -- in fact, he liked it so much that he came back the next year to volunteer a couple of afternoons in the school where he had worked before. He also did a lot of work revamping the web site for the agency he worked for; putting together a database to track volunteers, and developing and leading a training in community action. His supervisor ended up writing him a letter of recommendation that was amazing-- and probably is the reason he was awarded a merit scholarship and a fully funded internship his senior year in college. When my son graduated from college, he easily got a job that built upon many of the skills he had gained with Americorps. So I really can't say enough good about Americorps.</p>

<p>my daughter was accepted into an NCCC program, but I had concerns about the intensity for her & with that & talking to her physics teacher, who had a sister who did it for a few months and quit- she backed out.
But then we didn't really have a fallback program- she has been working almost full time to save money to go to India for three months & UK for 1/2.
I think I would have been happier with the NCCC program- as this is more expensive as well as I will have less contact with her.</p>

<p>My understanding with NCCC, is that they have community partners who are leading the service work. So for example one team might go to New Orleans and work with habitat for humanity & another group go to Florida and work with a partner who was doing restorative work on the Everglades</p>

<p>My older daughter did CityYear fora year, before college and I am currently doing students in service- where we work with community partners while we are in school ourselves.</p>

<p>A friends son is working for AmeriCorps in Oahu. His job was to create (or perhaps expand) a literacy program with a local school district. The pay is minimal and he qualifies for food stamps but sounds like he's really enjoying himself.</p>

<p>So what I'm gathering is that this isn't a big (or possible any?) out-of-pocket expense? That wouldn't be a deal breaker, but so many of these programs <em>designed</em> for gap years are big bucks for the participant.</p>

<p>And NSM--I guess one concern my DH and I have is that even after a year of something like AmeriCorps, the kid still has the same hs transcript. I understand that your DS was perhaps not ready for college right after high school, but do you think he would have been accepted/rejected at the same schools he ended up applying to? (We really are NOT looking at AmeriCorps as any kind of application padder; more something productive to spend a year doing during which DS might mature/focus a little. He'd still have the same pretty sucky GPA and not-bad SAT scores when it comes time to apply to college.)</p>

<p>My DS, also a junior, sounds a lot like ingerp’s son, and also like Northstarmom’s – a bright kid, but an underperformer. He was actually doing fairly well grade-wise (B/B+ average) up to this year, and his PSAT scores are in the 99th percentile. He has always struggled, though, to get good grades, and this year his various issues (ADHD, among others) have gotten the best of him, and his first semester grades will not be pretty. (He already knows he has failed one class, which is a first for him.)</p>

<p>One of his teachers suggested he take a gap year, and DS is very interested in the idea. Although I think this might be a very good plan, I have the same concern as ingerp about dealing with the same transcript after the gap year. Like ingerp, I don’t mean to look at the gap year as a application-padder; I hope, instead, that it will help DS mature and give him some time to work on ways to deal with his various problems. But I can’t help wonder whether it might help his chances when he does finally apply to college.</p>

<p>So, I’d like to second ingerp’s question to Northstarmom, or to any other parent in a similar situation: would a bright but underperforming high school kid who took a productive gap year still have the same acceptance/rejection record with college applications as he or she would have without the gap year? </p>

<p>To be a bit more specific – before this year, I think DS would have had a good chance to get into a college like Goucher or Earlham. Now, because of the hit his GPA will take, I’m not even sure that they would be safeties. Yet, I do think that after a gap year, he might be ready to thrive at one of those schools, or a similar school. Might a gap year help make that possible, or will his high school transcript forever foreclose those options?</p>

<p>(I hope this is not an improper hi-jacking of ingerp’s thread! I think our situations are very similar, so I am really hoping to keep this thread going.)</p>

<p>Missed the editing window, so I'm just quickly posting to correct a sentence where I ended up saying the opposite of what I meant to! If I could edit the the next-to-last paragraph, I would have substituted "reaches" for "safeties." So, I meant to say that because of the hit to DS's GPA from this year's grades, I think that schools like Goucher or Earlham will not even be reaches; in other words, they might be out of the question for him altogether. </p>

<p>I need more sleep, or something!</p>

<p>My guess is that with the economy tanking the way it is, "marginal" students who can pay tuition will be much in demand at many private schools. They may not be such a reach after all.</p>

<p>I am with Americorps now, and my contract runs through Thanksgiving.</p>

<p>There is a huge variety of stuff you can do with Americorps. My biggest complaint is the website is terrible and it is hard to find things.</p>

<p>I am doing work that is a lot like what calmom's son did.</p>

<p>As I'm sure you read about, the NCCC program moves the kids around a lot. I worked with some NCCC members doing Katrina relief last spring break.</p>

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So what I'm gathering is that this isn't a big (or possible any?) out-of-pocket expense? That wouldn't be a deal breaker, but so many of these programs <em>designed</em> for gap years are big bucks for the participant.

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<p>Americorps pays roughly $10,000 for the year. If that's enough to live on, then there is no out of pocket expense. If it's not, then there is. My parents are still helping me, as I have to live somewhere. Some of the programs provide a place to live, in which case you don't have to pay for rent.</p>

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<p>you check off the boxes for your interests. As far as I can tell, the only purpose it serves is that the website automatically alerts you to new projects that fall into your interest category. So if you choose "housing" they will send you lots of Habitat stuff. As an example, I checked "environment" on mine, and I just got this email for this program: California</a> Conservation Corps | Backcountry Trails</p>