A Math-Related Course Question

<p>If I were to take Calculus BC over the summer and Differential Equations, then over the year do a bunch of other Calculus-Based; Multivariable, etc. Courses, would I still be prepared for the Calculus BC exam since I'm just getting ahead of the curriculumn? Would I still be able to remember the concepts in order to get a 5? or are the concepts you learn in Calculus BC thrown away?</p>

<p>I'm not sure it's feasible to do Calc BC over the summer. In my son's experience, Calc BC in high school was a full-year course that was VERY fast-paced, unbelievably compressed. He missed two days once and, as a result, had a D going into the second half of one marking period. (He was able to pull it out and got a B that quarter.) Where would you take this -- a local college? You should investigate what they have to say about it and what your HS math department has to say as well.</p>

<p>BTW, my son (now a senior in HS) is taking multivarialbe calc. My understanding is that the concepts learned in BC are very very relevant. You can't handle Multivariable if you didn't handle BC well.</p>

<p>Through CTY, I think I can handle it, 2 months in the summer with almost a full day free for me. Think of the possibilities. The reason it's fast because you have to squeeze 3 semesters of Calculus in LESS than a school year since the AP exams are in May with only 45 minutes a day. Alright, that;s good, they're related.</p>

<p>I love CTY's courses because, if you take it and you DON'T do well, or you feel you're not getting the material, you can just take Calc BC in your senior year, and you will have a head start. And no one will know that you "failed" at the CTY course. (You know I put that in quotes because it doesn't sound as if -- with your capabilities and your drive -- you'll actually "fail." Just maybe not do as well as you hoped.) You've got absolutely nothing to lose, other than fun during the summer.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>West Hartford has a great school system, from what I've heard. You may have similarities to my son. Where are you planning to apply?</p>

<p>A guy at my school took Precalculus his junior year, learned AP Calculus BC over the summer, and now is in Multivariable.
So it's definitely possible if you have the drive to do that.
And if Multi and BC are related, then you should be alright...</p>

<p>once..im thinking about doing that 2...</p>

<p>Places with great medical schools, I still have 3-4 years though. What town do you live in?</p>

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If I were to take Calculus BC over the summer and Differential Equations, then over the year do a bunch of other Calculus-Based; Multivariable, etc. Courses,

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<p>a) Make sure you take DiffEq AFTER Calc BC. The material in Differential Equations relies HEAVILY on Calc BC material.
b) A small part of it (exact equations) involves multivariable calculus, so brush up on partial derivatives and partial integration before taking the course.</p>

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would I still be prepared for the Calculus BC exam since I'm just getting ahead of the curriculumn? Would I still be able to remember the concepts in order to get a 5?

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<p>5s aren't that hard. Like 40% of people get 5s on Calc BC anyway. But whether you remember the stuff will depend on how well you learn the material.</p>

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or are the concepts you learn in Calculus BC thrown away?

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<p>You don't use that much Calc BC stuff in multivariable but it comes up every once in a while. You need a LOT of stuff from Calc AB, so if you're taking BC without having taken AB first, then you will need a ton of what you learn there.</p>

<p>Well, you know how when you're in Algebra 2, every concept from Algebra 1 is basic for you? Will it be like being in a math higher than Calculus BC and Calculus BC becomes basic?</p>

<p>If you're lucky, that's what'll happen. (DiffEq tends to make Calc BC seen relatively easy.) If you're not lucky, you end up failing the higher course due to lack of background.</p>

<p>But once you get to that point, math starts "branching out," so you don't need absolutely everything from Calc BC for the "higher course." So what that means is when you're doing multivariate you might end up forgetting Taylor series.</p>

<p>Also. Keep in mind you'll be learning calculus in three months. Unless you've heavily self-studied before then you could flop. Heavily. Flopping does not look good.</p>

<p>And the most important thing to remember is if you cram all that calculus into your head and go on to college without retaking the courses, you might not do well in higher science courses due to bad calculus skills. Getting a 5 is not an end in itself! Calculus is important for just about everything. Make sure you know it very, very well.</p>

<p>There's still 4 years of high school for me...Calculus doesn't seem that hard...It's probably a jump, but I'll get used to it. Like in my school, Spanish 5H is harder than AP Spanish Language and we are prepared a little for it in 5h and AP Latin was a jump, much more work/material. I think I can handle it. Pre-calculus is really easy right now.</p>

<p>Fizix, you are so right! DS1 just finished MV and is starting on DiffEq. The teacher regularly put tricky BC questions on MV tests just to make sure everyone still remembered how to do that stuff. DS said those BC questions were the ones that always tanked people on MV tests. He said a couple times, he did well on tests because he'd looked up something from BC to refresh his memory.</p>

<p>Masterus, I am in Westport.</p>

<p>My son took Geometry summer before ninth grade, then Algebra II in 9th, PreCalc in 10th, Calc BC n 11th, and is now in Multivariable. There are four -- yes, four -- kids in his class (including him). He's also in AP Stat.</p>

<p>Sounds like you're way ahead of him, though.</p>

<p>I'm guessing Staples High School? I've had soccer there and maybe indoor track, I'm not too sure.</p>

<p>I'm going to PM you.</p>

<p>I wouldn't do Calc BC over the summer...some courses (like Geometry) are fine over the summer b/c the material can easily be crammed. Calc BC covers a full-year college course...maybe try AB over the summer, then finish the course during the school year and start Multivar Diff? Most people I know do multivar before DiffEqs...</p>

<p>"I wouldn't do Calc BC over the summer...some courses (like Geometry) are fine over the summer b/c the material can easily be crammed."</p>

<p>I totally agreee with Mochamaven.</p>