<p>I am a personal believer in “moving on.” Listen buddy, this person made a mistake. That’s not what is being debated. But if I were, just tell the person that what they were doing was wrong and have them give a sincere apology. The reality is, it’s not worth the fallout. Have you, yourself, never done something wrong with personal ambition in mind? I think we can all say that we are guilty of this at some point or another, so why further the damage by telling a college about it? Let the person deal with their own issues if they are not willing to listen to you. Is it worth the damage, embarrassment, and pain that you’re considering causing? NO! Just take the high road and let the person deal with their own ambition issues.</p>
<p>mimble, it’s really not your business. You’d be surprised at the number of people who “tweek” something on their college application. It’s unlikely that your friend got into Penn because of that one club or whatever. You have no basis to say that she doesn’t deserve to be at Penn. Put your bitterness aside. Imagine if YOU were in her situation, and got into your dream school. How would YOU feel?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want to make this OP angry at me “wow”. You got this girl scholarship revoked? Are you that vindictive? Do you sleep better at night, knowing you got her scholarship revoked? I believe you should take a long look at yourself in the mirror, maybe there is something to be said about you. You don’t want to go around in life filled with jealousy, envy, spite, and hatred. You got her scholarship revoked, but you are still licking your lips and out for more blood, what does that say about you? maybe your friend (more your enemy it seems) is not the model citizen, but the world is filled with people like that. If you spend your life, trying to get even with everyone that got what they wanted by unethical means, you will get a heart attack, because there will be too many unethical people to keep up with. TAKE A CHILL PILL AND LOVE YOUR ENEMIES LIKE YOU LOVE YOURSELF.</p>
<p>PS, I am sure she was admitted by Wharton on several factors and not just on the one factor you can’t let go of.</p>
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<p>While I think the OP should let go and be grateful that he/she is ethical enough to recognize deceit when he/she sees it and not participate in deception him-/herself, the OP didn’t get the girl’s scholarship revoked any more than I am culpable for the criminal record incurred by the thief who has broken into my home and on whom I call the police. </p>
<p>No one can get another person’s scholarship revoked (or any other consequence) if one hasn’t done something revocation-worthy.</p>
<p>@SWHarborfan…Your example and the OP situation are very very different circumstances. Your example is a criminal act, where you were victimized. What OP friend (wink wink nod nod) did was indeed immoral, but was it criminal? No. Was the OP a victim of a crime? No. The OP seeks vengeance because her friend is getting ahead unethically, and the OP don’t like it. I am sure if this OP is over 10 he/she have certainly seen unethical actions before. Did the OP tattle on everyone? I think not. THIS IS VENGEANCE NOT JUSTICE.</p>
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no logical argument made here in response. Gave up?</p>
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So now Penn is the police? You just said they were not. Please make up your mind. Making defamatory statements to the public (rather than law enforcements) puts you in civil court with a tort suit.
Penn’s overabundance is completely relevant. They don’t have time for your self-righteous, utopian, moralist b.s. They optimize under constraints and you can’t expect society to make up on the shortfalls of limited resources (imperfect information in this case).</p>
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Now you are just being goofy again. Lying on a signed application and therefore commiting fraud is an illegal act. Competition has rules, and breaking the rules has potential consequences.
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There are rules and there are punishments for breaking them. The fact, however, does not eliminate illegal activity from the cost/benefit analysis. Seriously, take an economics class. You’ll understand the world much better.</p>
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However you would like to justify it, you’re more than welcome to leave.</p>
<p>OP, don’t do it. It’s not worth it.</p>
<p>You know what? Tell her you can destroy her future by informing Penn what she did with you. But go on to tell her that you won’t do it because you realize you were once good friends and that your conscience will never allow this.
She should know what you can do to her. She might not show it but she’ll ALWAYS feel guilty deep inside.</p>
<p>Or just take a transfer to Penn and give her a tough time. 
Haha, but I’m sure you won’t go through all that just to take revenge on her.</p>
<p>And make sure you’ve learnt your lesson. It’s going to help you in future ;)</p>
<p>i say do whatever you feel like in this situation; either way it will be a learning experience.</p>
<p>Jamaica - For what it is worth, it is a criminal act. Receiving money on false pretenses, especially when you sign a document saying you affirm the truth of what you are dubmitting, is fraud. She got the scholarship on false pretenses, that is a form of stealing we call fraud. The situations between that and reporting a burglary are legally the same.</p>
<p>necro - OK I can’t help myself you are so ridiculous. I cannot respond to something that makes no sense, so no, I wasn’t giving up. Just pointing out it is so non-sensical that one cannot respond.</p>
<p>Also, when I said the thing about the authorities, I was specifically responding to the part of the discussion about securities fraud.
Read your own posts sometime. In this case, it is similar that if the person goes to Penn with evidence the person lied (and a revoked scholarship is certainly evidence) they cannot be sued for liable or slander on that basis alone.</p>
<p>You just make stuff up, that is why it is so hard to respond.</p>
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<p>Seriously, take a logic class and you’ll understand the world much better. I didn’t disagree with the idea that people try and cheat at “games”. But one of the aspects of applying that theory or cost/benefit anlysis is that cheating is a risk that has the botential benefit in this case of getting a scholarship and/or getting into Penn, but also carries the risk of getting caught and losing it all. As you say, there are punishments for breaking the rules (although it would have been more accurate for you to say there is the risk of punishment for breaking the rules). But if there is no chance of getting caught because no one ever says anything, then there is no risk at all. Using your advice of not telling Penn about the cheating, you take risk out of the equation. It doesn’t take economics, game theory, or any other course to get that. But FYI, I have taken 3 economics courses, have an MBA, and was a math major as well as a chem major.</p>
<p>JAMAICA, your logic is downright flawed, so I refer you to the below by fallenchemist–what he said —></p>
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<p>I would tell on her. She needs to learn her lesson. Fraud begets fraud. In 20 years, she may end up in prison for a more serious form of fraud and you will have regretted not trying to reform her while you could.</p>
<p>OP, I’m going to get all Mother Theresa on you and say that it’s not between you and her, it’s between you and God (or your conscience). Would you be reporting her because you feel you must right a wrong that could harm people or because you want vengeance? </p>
<p>I’ve never quoted religious stuff, because I think it’s so personal, but here goes (this is supposedly written by Mother Theresa):</p>
<p>If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies; Succeed anyway.</p>
<p>If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you; Be honest and frank anyway.</p>
<p>What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight; Build anyway.</p>
<p>You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God; It was never between you and them anyway.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think you’ll eventually regret doing this if you are mainly settling a score with her.</p>
<p>Harvard and Yale has been known to flunk students even in their junior years when they find out that there are fake achievements, or activities in the student’s application. The action that your friend took is really infuriating. By telling Penn right now, you would free them of the taint that is your former friend before it ever began; they wouldn’t have to face the tale that Yale and Harvard has heard time and time again. If you tell, The University of Pennsylvania, should and would have a huge amount of gratitude towards you.</p>
<p>Austinhills, while I do not exactly believe in the definite existence of a god, I completely and wholeheartedly second what you said.</p>