<p>I have encountered a difficult situation in my life where a friend of mine applied for and won a scholarship for a club I spearheaded and dragged her along with. She won the scholarship claiming that the club was entirely her effort, from its creation to its development, whereas the truth was that I created the club on my own and she made up a sentimental lie to cover the fact that she did not initially have the idea for the club. She also completely ignored all the work I had put into the club in its beginnings, when she was too busy with homework to share some of the responsibility. Needless to say, we are no longer friends. </p>
<p>I went forward with the truth and the scholarship was revoked from her. She was accepted into UPenn early decision, which was her top choice obviously. She is a very talented and smart student who is academically way qualified to be in the school, but she lacks morals and is only driven by her ambition. </p>
<p>I was recently advised by several people to contact Penn admissions and tell them her true nature. Although I would love to publicize the truth to the world, I doubt that it will have any merit and that at this stage, it is far too late for Penn to consider revoking her acceptance. </p>
<p>I would like some advice on whether I should at least reach out to Penn with the truth, whether or not it affects her. I myself did not apply to Penn, so this would have no impact on me. I would be more than happy to "tattle" on her with the story, but I want to know if there is any point to doing so. any opinions are appreciated</p>
<p>just take a moment to consider this: are you really that bitter? Is it worth ruining this girl’s goal for the future over? what did she ever do to you personally?</p>
<p>I’m smelling some close-friend competition here (just guessin). It is natural for people to compete with one another, especially if they are so close. Think about it this way. If a random “Joe” was walking down the street, telling everyone that he lied to get into “so and so” college (which you didn’t apply to), would you tell? You have no evidence that he actually lied… just hearsay. If the answer is “yes”, go ahead and tell on ur friend. If the answer is “No”, then move along and enjoy the rest of high school. Sure, she stole some credit away from you, but there’s so much more to life than getting recognition. Just remember: she wouldn’t possibly have advanced the club this far without you. You both know it and as long as this fact is deep within your heart, you should be content. Tell your friend not to take advantage anymore (with a serious tone) and I bet she will listen. </p>
<p>There are many dishonest people in this world, and it will all comeback to them sometime in their lives</p>
<p>^that random Joe thing was what I used to decide not to screw over a friend who got into Columbia (who also lied on his app).</p>
<p>Honestly, if it has no impact on you, why bother? You could end up doing some serious damage to this person’s life while there is no real benefit for you in return.</p>
<p>Why I’m considering doing this is that she truly never understood what she did wrong. I’m not so much concerned with the actual action, because I know that she is highly ambitious. However, what I’m not ok with was her reaction. I confronted her and held her accountable to her lies, and she denied doing anything wrong. </p>
<p>Yes, if she had “learned her lesson” I wouldn’t feel the need to sabotage her college acceptance, but she never did. So understand that it is not the actual action that I was more upset over, but her complete lack of guilt over what she had done.</p>
<p>What she did was wrong, way wrong but in my opinion i wouldn’t tattle on her, that to me just seems “not right”. She made a mistake but is it that bad that she should lose a college education she worked for the last 5-6 years for. You should talk to her and try to convince her to change her ways, but tattling on someone for something like that seems “childish” for lack of a better word.</p>
<p>The admissions are incestuous, the fin aid is a lie for publicity (search google - Penn was involved in financial fraud a couple years back), the people at Wharton will back stab you to get ahead, etc etc. This is the school environment :)</p>
<p>^^ you’re comparing a scholarship and stretched truth to intellectual property fraud on a life-saving technology. Please contain your analogies to some boundaries of reason. The damages you’d install on this girl are disproportionate to her actions.</p>
<p>Why do you think Penn would take you seriously? Frequently the tattletale winds up looking worse then the person she tells on. You would need an awful lot of proof for Penn to take you seriously. Move on, it’s heathier.</p>
<p>Spending any more time on this will only drag you down. Heading off to college is about looking forward, not investing all your emotional energy trying to correct history. </p>
<p>If she is truly the person you describe, then fate has ways of catching up with her.</p>
<p>As anothercrazymom just said, “move on”. There is no upside for you if you don’t.</p>
<p>necrophiliac, I think that the admissions process is corrupt and it obviously is unable to see the true from the false. Don’t know about Penn in particular, but I have a pretty cynical view overall. I’m sure she’d fit right in, but I still think that its wrong for an immoral person to go to the best business school in the country. If I have the “power” to stop something like that, I would. </p>
<p>I think some of the ppl here are getting somewhat of a wrong opinion. She certainly didn’t make a “mistake” this is what she does. Although this is the first time she has openly lied for an award like this, she frequently undermines her friends to get ahead. Its not a one time deal. Its a perpetual nature. </p>
<p>@anothercrazymom, my proof is the fact that the scholarship was revoked. That seems pretty clear to me.</p>
<p>@jpm50, yeah i used to think that fate would catch up to her, but now I’m not so sure. That’s why I guess I like to take a more proactive stance on it, because I don’t really believe in standing idly by and wait for fate. * sigh * I know the “high road” is to move on, but I honestly don’t think she will ever learn or get caught.</p>
<p>mimble,
i actually have quite a similar scenario…
i am co-presidents with someone else of a regional model congress and it is the job of the presidents to organize the entire event for more than 400 people and dozens of participating high schools. i did absolutely everything and she was doing hw instead as well. she got into penn ed, i am still waiting to hear back. i dont know if she made a huge deal about it on her application, but it is a huge undertaking and the biggest one of its kind at my school. if she made like she ran the entire thing in her application, it sort of undermines my application, because i said that i ran the entire thing by myself-which i did. and just the other day, when she saw i was working hard she says “i’m sorry” and i asked her for what and she goes “because i know uve been doing a lot”
NO KIDDING IVE BEEN DOING A LOT!
i hope that the lies she mightve told in her application dont effect my chance of getting in because i truly do run the entire events every year…</p>
<p>ok r u kidding me? grow up so shes an idiot she shouldnt have done that your actually gonna call up and probably get her acceptance revoked? seriously just stop crying about it…</p>
<p>I’ve barely skimmed this thread, but here’s my two cents.</p>
<p>It’s completely understandable that you feel injustice and that she may not deserve her acceptance. In fact, we’d all be shocked if you didn’t feel this way.</p>
<p>However, now is the time for you to be the bigger person. Yes, she did something very wrong. Yes, she may not have gotten in if she had not lied. But the fact is that she has worked hard for most of her life and her parents must have made many sacrifices to get her to this stage. </p>
<p>You will not get anything in return (as you didn’t even apply), and at this point, it’s not really a matter of being right or wrong. For everyone’s sake, it’s probably best if you don’t contact Penn. Someday, she will realize her mistake and what it has cost you. Then, she will be the one with the guilt and always be at odds with herself, wondering if she ever deserved to go to Penn.</p>
<p>Tattling on her may release all your frustration, but is that really worth ruining anyone’s future? Friend or not?</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s your place to blow the whistle on someone’s “true nature” just because you feel slighted, however justified the slight. You’ve already revoked her scholarship, and it was because the scholarship pertained directly to the club (which you had a huge hand with), which makes that decision a bit more justifiable on your end. Are you going to just keep informing every program or opportunity she applies to that she’s dishonest until she “learns her lesson”? I honestly don’t think you have that authority, here (especially since it is unclear as to whether or not she lied on her application). </p>
<p>I’ll tell you this right now: Wharton has so much group work. That group work is going to be her “fate” if she is truly as conniving as you imply. People like that get absolutely crushed here because nobody will put up with self-serving liars and credit-thieves. In my opinion, you’re better off letting someone else from Wharton call her out on something direct relative to their situation, much as you have already done regarding the direct nature of the scholarship issue.</p>