<p>Besides, we all ready have mass sterilization for minorities. It's called planned parenthood!</p>
<p>Northstarmom:</p>
<p>Ive lived in nyc all my life, except for 2 years and I have no idea what rapid rail is. I think people like to complain to much.</p>
<p>@JBVirtuoso</p>
<p>I think 30 miles out of a city, is to far for public transportation to extend. I think it should be only in highly populated areas. As for the price of homes, why not just rent. Ive done it my entire life and so do the majority of people in cities.</p>
<p>I honestly think the government should do absolutely nothing for this event. First off its unconstitutional, and secondly taxes would need to be raised. Its not the governments job, and all government intervention does is cause problems. Such as here in NYC, the MTA can get away with its huge profits and keep raising the rates, all because it is a public benefit corporation. Others corporations like this are filled with corruption such as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.</p>
<p>The best way for America to continue is for it to fail and restart. Crony Capitalism with stripes of socialism is not the way this country was meant to run. No wonder we have so many problems now. But people are just to stupid to understand, the bigger government gets and the more dependent we become on them, the worse it gets.</p>
<p>Oh yeah many areas in the NY metropolitan, have no public transportation. Also many who live in Westchester, Orange, Putnam, duchess Sullivan and Ulster counties, that dont have close access to the MTA Railroad, get together with other locals and hire coach buses for the mornings and nights for going to and from work in Manhattan. The combined cost, at a even amount per rider, is almost half the price as a MTA round trip fare.</p>
<p>Here's another sob story</p>
<p>'Extreme</a> Makeover' home faced foreclosure - UPI.com</p>
<p>Their house got an extreme makeover. Their mortgage is paid off by the show. They also received a 100k in cash. And now they are going to be in foreclosure because they took out 450k in loan to "start a business."</p>
<p>maybe oprah will save them.</p>
<p>Just Can't Get A Job'</p>
<p>Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree</p>
<p>Angelica Hernandez (left) and her mother, Gloria Nunez, struggle to make ends meet on a very limited budget.</p>
<p>-looks at picture-</p>
<p>lawl</p>
<p>Living in NYC isn't exactly cheap. It's also not exactly the best place for minorities to avoid police brutality. Just putting that out there lol. </p>
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<p>Lol, fortunately planned parenthood isn't anywhere near as repulsive as what the US did in Puerto Rico.</p>
<p>And during my years growing up in low income neighborhoods, we were still expected to have internet to do "at home research" as they would call it.</p>
<p>I just came across this video lol:</p>
<p>YouTube</a> - Bodega</p>
<p>Should teach you something about the food choices available to the poor. You don't got organic food markets in these neighborhoods. A bodega is basically a Latino corner store if you didn't know.</p>
<p>Not many people can afford organic food, mind you. Even middle class do not opt to buy $7/gallon organic milk. Since when is organic food a necessity? Goodness, you're talking about people who refuse to work and want to have access to organic food?</p>
<p>I never said anything about "wanting" to eat that nasty crap. But I'm just saying, even in middle class neighborhoods you have that stuff. </p>
<p>Organic food was just my example of "healthy." My point was is that healthy food costs, and the cheaper alternative is slowly killing them.</p>
<p>^^ 98% of the world do not have access to healthy food, they also do not become obese. The key is moderation. Instead of supersize fry, maybe try a small fry.</p>
<p>"Organic food was just my example of "healthy." My point was is that healthy food costs, and the cheaper alternative is slowly killing them."</p>
<p>Maybe they could try to buy healthy food in smaller quantities, as opposed to crappy food in large quantities? I am not saying that this is why this particular family is so overweight (they could have a disease), but this is why the majority of Americans is overweight.</p>
<p>Organic does not in any way mean healthy, thogh it may mean healthier. If you jar of organic maple syrup, vs a jar of aunt jemima, neither is healthy. Sure one may have industrial products and chemicals in it, but that wont matter much when you go into diabetic shock or comma or develop such a case.</p>
<p>Whole foods has great organic muffins, but have you ever looked at how much fat, cholesterol and calories they have, sometimes 2x what a regular muffin from a non organic super market has.</p>
<p>Look at soda, look at products with HFCS vs cane sugar, which do you think will make you fatter and unhealthy faster, its cane sugar btw.</p>
<p>Do you think fried chicken is great for you or maybe pork grinds. The measure of weather either of these are good for you doesn't matter if they are organic or not. Organic free range chicken or pork(its skin) is just as bad as then non organic variant for your body. Sure maybe synthetic pesticides and fertilizers. Antibiotics, growth hormones, and feed made from animal parts are all bad, but its what the vast majority of America and the industrialized world eats. All of these bad chemicals and additives while bad for you, due very little harm compared to the overall impact of overall bad food choices.</p>
<p>Eating fried organic chicken is just as bad as non organic
Organic cheese cake is just as bad or worse than non organic.</p>
<p>I think you get my point, eating healthy foods is #1 and most important, if you can make those healthy foods organic then its even better. But making bad food organic, while it may stop cancer and other disease, the disease from bad foods trump the problems from synthetic pesticides and fertilizers. Antibiotics, growth hormones, and feed made from animal parts.</p>
<p>The notion that poor people cant get proper food, as also seen on CNN's special Black in America. I live in the Bronx and can say people just like to wine and cry way to much. Even if you live in the suburbs you cant walk to a corner and get a vegetable ya need to go to a store. Sometimes 40 or more minutes away. </p>
<p>Hear in nyc the bodegas are convinces stores, they are not full blown supermarkets, they are meant to be a convince of the customer, not to be a full blown grocery store. There may not be a supermarket at every corner, just like there is not one at every corner in suburbia where the rich people are. But they are close enough.</p>
<p>If i take exactly where that lady was on the CNN show, I can get a good number of supermarkets in the area. Oh yeah they are all within walking distance. She was old, so maybe this will work for her. That is in NYC most if not all supermarkets still deliver including whole foods and FreshDirect in which you call them tell them what you want and they will deliver it same day. Prices are the same and there is a small delivery charge, those some supermarkets deliver free if you order over $100 of product.</p>
<p>Like I said I don't live in a great area and I have lived here for the majority of my life, and these areas are not as bad as the media and people make them out to be. if you want some organic tomatoes, what happened to growing them. if you cant do that have them delivered, or send a kid from the neighborhood for you.</p>
<p>As to that video, do they not have water and pretzels. Ive never seen a Bodega without them, so there is no excuse.</p>
<p>Capitalism may have won the Cold War, but now it's coming back to bite us in the ass. Perhaps Communism is the better economic system and we are finally beginning to see it.</p>
<p>Nothing is coming back to bite us on the ass when it comes to capitalism. Every problem we have economically is due to the move from individualism to collectivism, from capitalism to socialism(or worse).</p>
<p>To think capitalism is to blame is quite foolish when everybody knows when the government interferes with implementing bogus laws and regulations it only hurts the individual citizen.</p>
<p>Think Health care is bad, want to know why its so expensive read these
States</a> Make Health Care More Expensive, Matthews Claims
Rising</a> Costs, Reduced Access: How Regulation Harms Health Consumers and the Uninsured
Is</a> Execessive Health Care Regulation Hurting Uninsured?
Cost</a> of Health Services Regulation
Health</a> Care Regulation: A $169 Billion Hidden Tax
Excessive</a> Health Insurance Regulation Leads to High Costs</p>
<p>I can go forever, government regulation is not the answer, if there was not as much regulation on health care, almost every American no matter how poor could afford there own health care, it would be that cheap.</p>
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<p>Maybe so, but eating healthy is all about the choices we make. You can choose to buy a can of low sodium chicken and rice soup or you can choose to buy a hamburger at McDonalds for about the same price. While neither is probably an ideal solution, the soup certainly has a lot fewer calories than the hamburger. Having lived in a marginal neighborhood in NYC for years, and having shopped only at corner bodegas during that time, I just don't buy the idea that you can't make healthy choices for yourself.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I think that the real issue is education. I understand that there is often a correlation between socio-economic status and level of education attained (like our struggling friend from the article who does not have even a GED). Lack of education probably also means that there is probably a gap in knowledge about proper nutrition. Perhaps many people don't know what healthy choices to make, even if those healthy choices are available to them?</p>
<p>"I can go forever, government regulation is not the answer, if there was not as much regulation on health care, almost every American no matter how poor could afford there own health care, it would be that cheap."</p>
<p>If we had a socialist medical/education system like most of Europe, every single American would get health care for free. Every deserving American would also go to school and college for free, and we wouldn't see talented kids going to low-tier schools because they simply can't afford what they deserve.
It's not about capitalism, and it's certainly not about de-regulated capitalism. Why do you think we have our damned insurance companies in the first place? These companies are not producing anything; they are not providing services; they are not doing anything but increasing the cost of our healthcare. I would much rather pay a tax of $700 to the government for my free healthcare monthly (as I would in Europe) than pay those same $700 to an insurance company that will put 50% of that money into the pockets of CEOs, and then still force me to co-pay and cover a portion of my medical bills. But that's capitalism for you - people have a right to own insurance companies, and I don't have much choice in not using them</p>
<p>olgita did you actually read the links I posted. If not please do.</p>
<p>If and when you do, you will notice the direct relation with cost of health care and amount of government regulation. You say insurance companies are raising prices, again if you would read the links you would see that the prices of insurance only goes up when the government forces a regulation on its service. Insurance is a service that you pay monthly for. Insurance used to be only for major emergencies, like a broken arm or cancer, heart attack. If you have a cold or a small cut, you can just go to a local general practitioner and pay out of pocket. This was the norm before the advent of the HMO and major insurance was cheap, anybody could afford it if you at least had a job. There were even more free clinics then, than there are now, because doctors didn't fear the patients. </p>
<p>When the government says that all insurance companies have to provide a set standard set of care, guess what you have government regulated health care and as we can see its very expensive. Nowadays people go to the ER for everything, instead of just going to a family doctor. When you would pay a family doctor out of pocket for his service, his prices were competitive as he wanted more patients or wanted to help more people. Instead of doctors being able to do this, under a socialized system the doctors are usually paid so little and have so much more work, that they deliberately change the maximum on the govt tab, as well as put patients through unneeded tests and procedures. This doesn't make health care good, it makes it expensive and slow.</p>
<p>Having the govt in charge of medicine, will be like taking the personnel that work at the DMV and giving them medical degrees and nurse degrees. if you want that type of atmosphere go for it. Ive seen it first hand in Canada, as I go to school in Buffalo and am quite close. Hospitals in Canada are no joke, a guy was having a stroke on the waiting room along with the other 300 people there and the dmv style triage nurse couldn't care less.</p>
<p>BYW Canadas health care system is in ruins right now
IBDeditorials.com:</a> Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- Canadian Health Care We So Envy Lies In Ruins, Its Architect Admits</p>
<p>Read this
canada</a> can't find doctors - Google Search</p>
<p>When doctors are forced to charge more or the absolute max for there own well being, and having no ability to regulate there work load, what you get is very high taxes, poor care and a lack of doctors.</p>
<p>I would like a doctor and myself to determine my medical needs, I really dont want a government bureaucrat, deciding if I should wait 2 or 3 years for a organ transplant.</p>
<p>I really suggest you at least read the link from Virginia law, could you find a more respected school.</p>
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You should really move to Europe to appreciate America. The grass is always greener on the other side of fence.<br>
I rather pay to the roof than some crappy free health care in europe. Which college is free in Europe again?</p>
<p>"olgita did you actually read the links I posted. If not please do."</p>
<p>I did, but they all make the assumption that insurance companies are necessary and the only question is whether they should be regulated by the government or not. I make the argument that we should do away with insurance companies altogether.</p>
<p>"Instead of doctors being able to do this, under a socialized system the doctors are usually paid so little and have so much more work, that they deliberately change the maximum on the govt tab, as well as put patients through unneeded tests and procedures. "</p>
<p>I don't think that doctors deserve to get paid $200,000+ a year, and this is coming from someone who wants to become a doctor. And I would rather be put through a lot of tests that have my medical problems go unnoticed. My so-called physician refused to let me have a simple vertebral x-ray, and consequently missed my scoliosis, which can no longer be fixed without serious surgery. </p>
<p>"Having the govt in charge of medicine, will be like taking the personnel that work at the DMV and giving them medical degrees and nurse degrees"</p>
<p>Really? Have you ever lived in a country with socialized medicine? If not, don't make these assumptions. Those people are (for the most part) far more competent than 70% of all US doctors. Yes, you have to wait in long lines, but if you have an emergency, you don't have to make an appointment and wait for a month for your problem to get worse. I have lived in that system, and I find it much better than what we have here. </p>
<p>"Hospitals in Canada are no joke, a guy was having a stroke on the waiting room along with the other 300 people there and the dmv style triage nurse couldn't care less"</p>
<p>"I rather pay to the roof than some crappy free health care in europe."</p>
<p>Have you ever lived in Europe, or just read the news about it? I haven't lived in Europe - I'll admit that - but I lived in Uzbekistan (a long time ago, when the medicine was still mostly government-subsidized), and I remember having far fewer problems with doctors than I do now.</p>
<p>"Which college is free in Europe again?"</p>
<p>How about the majority of German colleges?</p>