<p>once I got waitlisted...i occasionally visit the forum lo look over posts....
Ppl who are trying persuade other ppl to not go to UNC...you all suck...I mean, why does it matter now, if you are not accepted.....atleast let the ppl who got accepted enjoy their stay at UNC.</p>
<p>But I do request the people who are not going there after being accepted to tell them that they are not going there because then waitlist will be sorted out faster.</p>
<p>You have waited too, and you know it sucks. Don't make us the waitlisted.....wait even longer...lol..</p>
<p>This IS or OOS busness is so trivial. How about us students who emigrated to this country from another. Get over it. Broaden your horizons and mindset and meet some IS people, most of them are very open minded people unlike many whining OOS students on these boards. If you aren't enjoying your time at UNC move on give someone else a shot at your space who will appreciate it more than you do. </p>
<p>APPRECIATE the opportunties that you have been given. So few countries have the incredible colleges that you do in the US and all the choices you do. Keep looking at the big picture and not what the students are wearing (jeans, polos, fake pearls) I appreciate the fact that I am in NC everyday and especially now that I will be attending UNC in the fall.</p>
<p>snoz-
offering someone a contrasting, honest opinion, as a part of trying to give someone a fair and balanced view of both sides does not equate whining. obviously the big picture is more important than what people are wearing, i'm sorry you can't relate to what i'm saying. i offered the superficial homogeniety as symbolic and representative of the overall lack of diversity i've seen.
if i just wanted to whine about it, i wouldn't come to this kind of forum. i just want these kids to get the various sides of input i didn't have the benefit of. i have met tons of people, virtually all of my friends are from in state. i have reached out to all different kinds of people and have been good friends with many of the people i described in that post. if you knew me you'd know not any part of me is closed-minded. i reached out to tons of people of varoius kinds... what i found in my first year is that often time not all of them reached back (that doesnt mean rejected, but didnt actively accept or embrace me as they might some others in their groups of friends--), they were content in their preset circles of friends or their specific interests (example- if i didnt go to campus crusades, a certain group didn't want to ang out with me otherwise or include me in other activities). i've made the most of my experience and certainly appreciate my opportunities, but that doesnt mean i dont also wish i had the opportunity of seeing the possible negative sides ahead of time too.
as far as unc tuition and acceptance goes its in state vs. out of state, nc residents and non residents.
i appreciate your input as an international student, and reminder that i, and many people in this country forget to be glad that we live here and have such great colleges to go to. i really hope you enjoy unc in the fall, at the very least you'll certainly get a good education.</p>
<p>I don't go to UNC? Excuse me? What is this, a witch hunt? Do I need to post my ID for everyone to see? I am simply sharing my honest opinions about my experiences here. If people want to label me as a troll, go ahead. Stifling anything thats negative will only hurt those looking at UNC. They need to hear all sides of the argument before making a decision. My experiences are real. I'm not making anything up to artificially bring down UNC. I am a student here and am not trying to maliciously turn people away. Myself and many OOS students have had the same experiences here. They are just not posting it on a college forum. I went to a freshman focus forum yesterday and MANY OOS students were there voicing some frustration, except things have improved over the past few months.</p>
<p>Things for me have ticked upward, as I have said, but I still feel UNC's size is a factor that is hurting me. If I do end up staying, I luckily have a fraternity with people I like ready to take me in. You can take my opinions for what you will, calls me a troll, or write me off. </p>
<p>Really, it's kind of insulting and arrogant for someone to call me a troll and doubt my status as a UNC student. This speaks volumes for the reputation UNC gets around their rival schools of all the students being kool-aid drinking, Carolina blue blood bleeding, delusional Tar Heels who believe the school was a gift from God.</p>
<p>Like I said earlier, my situation here is not as dire as it was months ago. I have made some good friends, but it is still frustrating not to be included in any kind of social event when they go to NC State or home every weekend to celebrate with their friends back at home. Claiming my political ideology makes me closed minded or I am in anyway lesser an individual is just a horrible thing to say. I would say that it was the person who can fail to see the negative aspects about UNC is the one that is close minded. I will say that this school is great for many people. I never said it wasn't. I am involved heavily with the Republicans club on campus, although I am handicapped because I am not a resident of NC. </p>
<p>I will acknowledge that it isn't idea, but it isn't a horrendous place. Chapel Hill may be the best town in the world to you and that's fine. The one street here isn't that great for me. I miss a larger city. </p>
<p>But, like the other OOS in the Freshman forum, I am getting around. I have some friends that are around during the week. However, I still feel I'd be happier elsewhere in a smaller environment and not a big state school. I'm sorry if that so unbelievable to anyone here. Honestly, this thread really just confirms what my dad would talk about when he said UNC people live in their own little fantasy world where they believe the school can do no wrong. No, it isn't horrible, but it certainly isn't Heaven on earth.</p>
<p>Cool. Quick example. A friend of mine here had made plans for all of us to go eat dinner tonight in Raleigh. He just called and said he is eating with two of his friends from home on campus and we'll just all go some other time. It's things like this that occur that frustrates me.</p>
<p>Thank you very much goheels and all else who have made an effort to bring some issues out in the open. My s really wants to go there. He probably will end up doing so. We also love the town and think it is a good school. One isse that we had is exactly what this thread is doing. Everytime we tried to get a clear pic of unc, someone insulted us or got defensive about uncch. asking for the pros and cons is not in any way trying to stop others from going to a school. it is the way an adult makes an informed decision on something. I like sushi. but I don't like all sushi. that does not mean you should feel the same way. I am very concerned when i hear adults labeling kids and discussing them as if they are bad because they don't agree with you. All of the threads for all of the schools should include the good and the bad. let kids and I really do mean the KIDS talk and evaluate and decide this. they are not stupid and they certainly do have the right to vent if they want to.</p>
<p>Again, my s will probably pick unc and we will support it. But i have to let all of you that are representing unc know that the unwillingness to discuss the school in an objective way has really turned us off. no other school has threads where the parents talk about kids this way. if you chose unc and you are happy then you are fortunate. if you chose unc and you don't like it then that is your opinion and so be it. if you decide to not go there, that is fine too. who one here knows you better than you. kids, do what you and your parents think will be good for you. the rest of us should not have a say.</p>
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<p>Not going to get into this argument, but I will say that the UNC board is a lot LESS open to diverse opinions/criticisms of UNC than any board I visit (and I visit a lot, look at my posts count)! Please, let's be realistic. One experience cannot, DOES NOT, speak for all.</p>
<p>Thank you, I'm glad you didn't take my criticisms the wrong way. If your son goes to UNC having made a well thought-out decision and keeping some things in mind, he'll be very happy here. A lot of the things I say aren't necessarily trying to get students to re-evaluate their choices, but to be prepared to face certain issues, which may not have even been issues if I was expecting them. Best wishes.</p>
<p>I really have to agree with a few of the comments above. Why all the defensiveness about UNC? All other boards seem to tolerate critical comments and comparisons more comfortably.</p>
<p>I think any school should be evaluated based on a critical analysis of strengths and weaknesses. Why are some happy with a school? Why are some dissatisfied? It's really no big deal-unless, of course, one of the problems is a latent inferiority complex.</p>
<p>BTW, I'm just trying to keep it real, no ax to grind.</p>
<p>I am very disappointed in the finger pointing and NAMING names that this thread has taken. EVERY person here is entitled to their opinion.
I have two kids at UNC and have seen very different experiences. I think that everyone can agree that the college selection process is very flawed in that it is not really possible to determine a fit from a bunch of numbers on a paper or a visit or two. You have to jump in and experience it. </p>
<p>The truth is that a lot of posters here are PARENTS not students.
NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO....there will be times you are miserable and times of great happiness. COLLEGE is a lot of work. COLLEGE is a big.. change. COLLEGE requires alot of problem solving. IT IS NOT A BIG PARTY. </p>
<p>FOR MOST PEOPLE WHO DON"T GO TO A STATE COLLEGE, the social scene is something you have to work at....50 of your friends from H.S. are not there to entertain you.</p>
<p>I value the private discussions I have had with some of the students you pointed out as trolls and I can attest they are not trolls just because THEIR experience is different from yours. I am disappointed in the choice by some there to finger point and use a persons name online.</p>
<p>Agreed take anyone's opinion with a grain of salt GOOD or BAD. YOU need to make the decision based on what you need, your personality and your review of the schools. However, note that MY opinion and other parents should fall BELOW students.....and these are REAL students at UNC.</p>
<p>Thanks for that, ATLMom. I am still surprised that while we are legal adults, we are still treated like little children by some on this forum who just don't know what's best for us. </p>
<p>I'm still surprised I was labeled a troll. The arrogance is amazing.</p>
<p>I think voicing our differences is something that is necessary for any adult to make an informed decision. Look, Carolina is not the worst place in the world, but it also isn't Heaven on earth. It has great academics and thousands would love to be in my shoes right now. But that isn't the point of this. The point of these forums is to not only talk about help, but listen to those who have had a rough go since coming here and are confident enough to voice their opinions on a forum. If you don't believe there are more than just a handful, you really are in some other world. I am really disappointed in eadad for starting a thread like this, warning those who have differences with the school aren't as legitimate as those who love it. It hurts me because he's been a tremendous help to be, lead me to a fraternity with a group of guys I like and could call brothers in a year, and offered countless other tips that I took to heart. I was upset to see he was the one starting this thread where people blinded began labeling me and others as trolls. Are there trolls on this forum? I'm sure there are. People who didn't get in may become angry and badmouth the school. But to freely start accusing people is simply a witch hunt and risks ticking a lot of people who came to this forum for help off. </p>
<p>I really appriciate what ATLMom has done in helping a lot of us with advice. Rather than accuse us of being immature or lesser of a person because we dislike aspects about UNC, she listens. That's something many of you could learn and this place would be better for it. UNC has a whole has trouble listening to critisism, and I guess this forum just reflects that. The "don't like us? Screw you" mentality is something I've experienced on campus. My roommate and I have both sensed that, and we are far from loser/rejects.</p>
<p>I must have missed something. I didn't see anyone in particular named as a "troll". I think eadad (just my opinion) was just trying to point out that on whatever thread, one doesn't know the background or personal axes any individual might have. I believe eadad posted this not to confront any certain posters just to remind people (esp. young students) not to take the words of a stranger completely on face value--whether it be regarding a school, a health question or academic advice. </p>
<p>Hopefully, these boards give rise to new questions one may check out from other resources. I personally became involved with cc when I was looking for options and advice for a particular college "problem". The responses given by many thoughtful people helped me to examine avenues that I might not have thought of on my own.</p>
<p>Eadad's warning is more keep your eyes, ears and mind open and make your own decisions based on your observations and various resources available.</p>
<p>I guess IRL they are not called trolls, but I have met many people who talk down a school, a business, a teacher, a coach, whatever. The difference is in IRL, in your community, with a little effort one can discern whether it is a prejudiced/emotional response.</p>
<p>All schools have positives and negatives. One just has to decide if the positives at a school outweigh the negatives FOR THEM.</p>
<p>Good luck to all making these decisions. And remember if it is not right the first time, it is not carved in stone. I know from experience.</p>
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NO. DON'T LISTEN TO AHDUKE99 OR ANY OF THESE OTHER UNHAPPY PEOPLE.</p>
<p>They're trolls and are just trying to influence your decision because they didn't get into UNC. UNC is a great school, and if you go in there with the right mindset you'll have no problem making friends. LISTEN to the advice EADAD and Cloying give because it is really good and they have experience with the school.</p>
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Posts: 139 I can agree with wolfpack12 that ahduke99 seems like a troll, but he seems quite acquainted with the professor's name and the whereabouts in UNC... </p>
<p>IF YOU MISSED THESE posts and it appears you did, then that is where my comments were directed.</p>
<p>I specifically sympathize with kids who are not happy after making decisions. I KNOW there are many reasons students are not happy. For some, maturing into the roles that colleges forces you into is a big part of the process....finding your way is the most important part...the journey is an education in itself. Good luck to all of you. Do remember its ok to not be happy all the time, thats life. Give much, expect little.</p>
<p>I think a few good points have been made. The first, by eadad, is that you dont always know who is posting and what their motivation is. However, in the case of goheels3 and ahduke99, they are students and they are honestly relaying their experiences at the school. I think they should be commended, not bashed, for having the courage to share aspects that have been difficult. Im sorry that they have taken such a beating in the process. The fact that some of it has come from parents is inexcusable. </p>
<p>No school is perfect for everyone. I would give prospective students more credit in being able to sort through all the comments, positive and negative, to find a fit that is right for them.</p>
<p>Hey, I'm not a UNC parent or student...but my son did consider UNC so i browse through the threads occasionally...we really liked the place on our visit and I often wonder if he should have put an app in.
My son chose the honors program at PSU and is a very happy guy and doing well. But I want to point out that the PSU board has, at times, been hit with similar threads. Negative postings, countered by parents and students who LOVE PSU. Just like UNC, pride is big at PSU - those folks bleed blue and white and most who attend are very happy.
Well, one of the posters on the similar PSU thread WAS a troll (I actually caught him posting under various user names). All venom. But some of the negative posts were clearly from kids who were having a bad time. The difference is that these posts seemed more balanced....recognizing both the good and bad...like many of the more negative posts here.
One thing I'll say though is that I don't think it says anything bad about the school that parents and students rear up in defense of their school. It shows loyalty and pride...something that's missing from many schools. I went to a state school where students showed very little pride...and I only recognize that now that I see other places where it exists. It's a GOOD thing. At least for most students.
Bottom line, go visit and ask lots of questions. If you're OOS, seek out those students and find out what they think. Spend a night. Read through these boards and realize that ALL schools have some unhappy students.
Based on what I read here, there should be NO automatic assumptions made that an OOS kid would have trouble at UNC. But there are some small warning signs that might need to be checked out. Ask lots of questions and approach this with your eyes wide open. Think of negative posts (if there are more than a couple) as a yellow light, not a red light. Good luck to you all!</p>