A note to students from a parent regarding SAT scores

<p>Really, honest, there is no need to say that you didn't study, felt sick, and will "definately" do better when you retake.</p>

<p>Sure, retake the test; just don't bank on doing better. You might do worse. Alternatively, prepare for it the first time. </p>

<p>Plan your applications on the score you have in your hand.</p>

<p>If you don't believe me (and, after all, I am a parent so I'm used to that), check the ACT and SAT websites for stats on retakers.</p>

<p>I'm winking as I write this ;-)</p>

<p>If CC had a “like” button (a la FB) I’d click it now.</p>

<p>Ha ha, so true. I might add that if you’re an A student, your SATS should be too. If you’re a C student, ditto. Nothing looks stranger than someone with a 2.2 and perfect SATs or 4.6 and terrible SATs. Tells a story…</p>

<p>OMG…this is so true…</p>

<p>If we had a dollar for every poster that says… </p>

<p>“I got a 1750, but I’m retaking, because (fill in the blank) is my dream school. I will definitely will get a 2250 (or whatever) next time. I won’t even consider schools that match my current score.”</p>

<p>(Same with the ACT. And, good heavens, take both! You may do BETTER on the other one!)</p>

<p>*I’m winking as I write this :wink: *</p>

<p>I’m not winking; I’m strongly nodding!</p>

<p>MSUDad, may as well post the link and details</p>

<p>Score changes when students test again</p>

<p>Here are some general points about score change that may help you advise your students.
[Retaking</a> the SAT](<a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/testing/sat-reasoning/scores/retake]Retaking”>Understanding SAT Scores – SAT Suite | College Board)</p>

<p>* * 55 percent of juniors taking the test improved their scores as seniors.
* 35 percent had score drops.
* 10 percent had no change.
* The higher a student’s scores as a junior, the more likely that student’s subsequent scores will drop.
* The lower the initial scores, the more likely the scores will go up.
* On average, juniors repeating the SAT as seniors improved their combined critical reading, mathematics, and writing scores by approximately 40 points.
* About 1 in 25 gained 100 or more points on critical reading or mathematics, and about 1 in 90 lost 100 or more points. *</p>

<p>I might add that if you’re an A student, your SATS should be too</p>

<p>So true!! Frankly, I think the parents are just as bad with this. They think that their straight A honor student should get a big scholarship - even though their student’s ACT/SAT is in the 75-80th percentile.</p>

<p>** 55 percent of juniors taking the test improved their scores as seniors.*</p>

<p>Well, of course there will be a jump from junior to senior year. Just like there’s usually a jump from soph PSAT to junior PSAT. The kid has learned more in the meantime.</p>

<p>But, I think MSU Dad is talking about kids who take the exam Sept/Oct senior year and expect huge increases when they retake 2 months later.</p>

<p>I can come off as crusty, so I added the winky thingy.</p>

<p>It is comical how standardized the recitation of the test scores has become here. I giggle each time I read them.</p>

<p>some of the other almost comical statements…</p>

<p>I’m a senior, I’m making my college list, I don’t care about cost, I’ll pay for it someway.</p>

<p>When choosing my education, I shouldn’t have to worry about cost.</p>

<p>But, I’ve always dreamed of going to _____________.</p>

<p>(With no other info given): I’m applying to __________, what kind of aid can I get?</p>

<p>(with no other info given): I’m applying to ____________, what are my chances?</p>

<p>Oh, and my fav…</p>

<p>chance me, I PROMISE to chance back.</p>

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<p>Coming out in support of the underprepared student here. The “A” kid whose scores don’t break the 2200 mark may indeed tell a story such as:</p>

<p>a) I attended a rural high school with few elective offerings
b) my school is title 1 and disadvantaged
c) Neither my parents nor my counselor knew/told me about test prep options
d) etc.</p>

<p>The above quote, perhaps unintentionally, suggests a cultural bias and seems to ignore the fact that not all kids have access to the same enrichment.</p>

<p>Not all our kids live in your neighborhood or the ones like it.</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>I guess I’ve seen too many upper-middle class kids from lily-white blue ribbon schools with perfect GPAs and lowish SATs.</p>

<p>Yes, why don’t we squash the optimism of a sixteen year old kid dreaming big.</p>

<p>Yeah, I take issue with the A students should have A level SAT scores too. I’ve known kids who were really hard-working students who achieved in the classroom but not on the SAT. I’ve got faith that many of them will go far in life.</p>

<p>I like the “definately” in your post. Major pet peeve. So many people don’t know what we are talking about even!</p>

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<p>I like standardized tests to equalize the meaning behind gpas between high schools.</p>

<p>S’s best scores were in December (last month) for CR, Math & Writing.
Third time around, too! It was a nice Christmas present we got in January I guess!</p>

<p>Oh God yes, I forgot about “chance me, I PROMISE to chance you back.” I love that.</p>

<p>Quash, not squash.</p>

<p>Definition of squash: to suppress or put down; quash.</p>

<p>Instead of nitpicking my vocabulary, how about responding to what I said?</p>

<p>I had a very high GPA in high school and low SAT score. My college GPA was as high as my high school GPA. I guess your logic doesn’t apply to cases like me, and others like me.</p>

<p>campbellmom, I agree with you and believe you. I also have one kid who consistently tests well and one who does not. I still like standardized tests for my weak test taker because his scores are still higher than some kids with much higher gpas from lousy high schools. If we did not have standardized tests my kids would be at a disadvantage. My kids always sent their scores to all test optional schools too. My weak test taker has been admitted to every school he has heard from so far, and received merit aid offers from all of them too.</p>