About the value of GPA & the grade trends.

Graduate School Law School
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<p>Junior BA in Criminal Justice. 4.00 GPA in my last two years, and possibly a minor in Psychology. Problem? My freshman year was bad. My GPA was 1.8 and I withdrawn in my spring semester. However, it was all because of a documented medical condition, and since I transferred to a private university closer to my hometown, everything has been good. </p>

<p>Now, about to start with the LSAT process, I keep wondering how will this affect my chances. I'm expecting at least a 165 in the LSAT, and have pretty good extras (president of a counseling group, vice-president of the campus chapter of Amnesty International, member of the Honor Society, founder of a debate team, and at least 100 community service hours working with indigents). I got nice letter from my professors, and great ones from academics counselors and the Dean of Students, since I have work with them directly.</p>

<p>I wish to go to, at least, a second tier university, but was wondering about my chances in the t14. I know my LSAT would have to be higher than 170, but concerning my GPA, will one failed class hurt me forever? Or will three years of A's prove I'm a good applicant, even if my GPA is not from a renown university?</p>

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<li>I should probably mention that I'm a URM, that I will graduate when I'm 20 y/o with a final GPA of 3.81 and that I'm applying to an internship with CHCI.</li>
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<p>Unfortunatley, LSDAS GPA will also include the gpa from your first school. Your GPA will end up being lower than the 3.8. You should definitely write an addendum explaining what happened.</p>

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<p>Wouldn’t you get into a t14 with 3.81 and 165 because you’re an URM? Those are pretty solid URM numbers if I’m correct.</p>

<p>Take the LSAT before you ask for chances, though.</p>

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<p>sybbie719 - I was really worried about my GPA, so I made the calculation. </p>

<p>My concentration has 114 credits, minus the 18 transferred credits my new university accepted (10 credits + 9 credits from AP tests) = 96 credits</p>

<p>96 + 15 credits (from my minor concentration) = 111 credits. </p>

<p>(111 * 4.00) + 18 (my first semester GPA) = 462/121 credits (10 credits + 96 BA credits + 15 minor credits) = 3.818</p>

<p>Are my calculations right, or do I have a lower GPA?</p>

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<li>I am actually planning to take my first LSAT practice tomorrow morning, so I’ll post my cold results as soon as I have them.</li>
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<p>I’f I’m not mistaken, Law schools generally don’t like candidates with Criminal Justice degrees, nor do they like people who graduate early.</p>

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<p>How many credits did you take your first term? If you only took 10 credits, you were a part time student. Is this correct?</p>

<p>Remember everything counts. Even if you were not able to transfer the credit, if you took the course, it is going to be calculated. Did you fail any classes? Did you calculate the failed grade.</p>

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<p>If your GPA truly ends up being a 3.8, that is quite solid. A ~3.8 and around a 165 (even a 160 probably would do) as a URM is a lock at some T14s. Some URMs give a greater boost, for instance, an AA male just got into UVA with a 3.6/156, but I doubt most other URMs would with those numbers.</p>

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<p>I was a full-time student with a pass/fail class (that, to my understanding, does not count for GPA). I think the lowest GPA I can have is ~3.77. Yes, I did fail one class (that couldn’t repeat because I transferred), but it’s been taken into account in that GPA. I am very worried about how will that look: Is it preferable to have many many B’s or C’s (which I don’t) than a single failed class? Or is the GPA analyzed only in it’s final results?</p>

<p>To the other posts, I’m graduating college at age 20 because I attended a boarding school specialized in sciences and mathematics, and due to its rigorous and intensive curriculum, I graduated early and started college at 17. I’m looking for some experience in a law-related field, but I haven’t found it yet. I understand that law schools prefer more…classic mayors, but I expect that they will take into consideration my minor in psychology. If it matters for the URM selection, I am puertorican, and have live in the island all my life.</p>

<p>Concerning admission, which ones -from the t14 to the t30- would accept me?</p>

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<p>Without a REAL LSAT, it’s impossible to answer that question.</p>

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<p>according to this site</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-content/uploads/Law-School-Predictor-Full-Time-Programs.htm[/url]”>http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/wp-content/uploads/Law-School-Predictor-Full-Time-Programs.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>with a gpa of 3.8 and a 165 LSAT</p>

<p>as a URM you would get into some t14 schools and be a lock for other good law schools such as UCLA, Texas, Boston College, etc.</p>

<p>even if you weren’t a URM there would still be a chance at the t14</p>

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<p>Law schools want folks who’ll be paying them 200k and keeping their medians high, keeping their businesses afloat. </p>

<p>That much I know.</p>

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<p>Right. and the line forms to the left of people who are willing to do that at t14 schools. So, they can afford to be picky.</p>

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<p>LonghornDan, do you have any concrete examples of early graduates who were disadvantaged because of graduating early?</p>

<p>The only evidence I have is that it had no effect on my ED admission to UVA. Can’t say much about other schools because I never applied to them.</p>

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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/11797705-post34.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/11797705-post34.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I don’t know if these stories overlap with the one I’m most familiar with, who comes from another message board, but there was a rather infamous character over there who had spectacular numbers and didn’t get into any of (if memory serves) the top 25 schools.</p>

<p>This also turns up in medical school admissions, where I’ve seen the same thing happen repeatedly to those of my college classmates who applied young.</p>

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<p>If you have a 3.81 (as calculated by LSAC) and a 165+, and you’re actually a URM you’ll definitely crack the t14. If you hit 170 you could sniff harvard.</p>

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<p>I don’t suppose you’d be able to remember what this person’s exact LSAT and GPA were, would you?</p>

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<p>Not exactly, no. If memory serves, it’s something like 3.95/176?</p>

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<p>Can’t believe being black helps this much…</p>

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<p>I’d definitely include an addendum regarding your condition.</p>