Absolute bare minumum GPA for acceptance

<pre><code>Hmm, so then it is worth it then. I just ask because I see so many people (really about 50 or so), who managed to do everything that I want to do without college. And looking at the great business titans like Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Moran, in which 2 of the 3 did not even finish high school let alone attend a college makes me question what’s the point. One major problem that I have is that you have to pay so much for college, and I hear many stories of how college has no worth due to excessive spending on sports gyms etc. Now I know that the ivies number 1 priority is education, and I have heard great things about them, which is my reason for being so ivy fanatic. My hate for paying can also be attained with my school experience by far, which has been that they focus more on discipline and ‘career’ planning, than actual education. I mean I go to school to be a better person and learn right, not be disciplined like I’m in some camp, where I can only urinate after taking a bathroom pass, have 7 camera’s catch a shot at me on the way, and then have to write down the EXACT time I leave and enter -.-. Also in classes we have guidance come and talk about career management, spend 2 hours of valuable lesson time on a computer website that makes you fill out 200 questions in order to predict your ‘future’, and then guidance tells you what your most likely job is going to be. I remember that I asked guidance about why the income slider only goes up to 200,000 (me being me :D), and their response is that this is the highest that you can expect to earn in your lifetime, with about 10 years of college and med school ofc.
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<p>I mean, is school meant to groom you to be a docile employee? It sure looks like it, provided that I can’t urinate without permission, I can’t ask questions because teachers ‘do not feel like answering’ (umm hello?), I can’t write what I want to write because I have to cite every 6 words, and you have to write according to a page rubric on how exactly to write. They call it reinforcing the crucial skills of writing composition or something, I call it indoctrination. Another major problem is that history is biased as well, I mean they teach us that we are so great (minus a lot of bad things, tell us communism is bad because it is not capitalism (teachers, you got to show good and bad and let students make the choice -.-) and the like. In addition, guidance is absolutely terrible at planning students futures (ok I am a major pain, however you can do better). They seem to always steer us into college, even telling a kid in our class that wants to go to trade school that it’s a bad idea (face palm). Even talking about ambitious goals, one student wanted to become a self employed website designer, in which he talks about video games and such(much less crazy than my plan), and guidance told him it is a terrible idea, filled with major risk and losses, and it does not offer the security of a college degree. Please, comment on why I should ignore all this, and go to regular school if Harvard or any ivy does not work out, because I can assure you, I see NO benefit.</p>

<p>Morgan*</p>

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There are a lot more than 2 plans, and they don’t require Harvard.</p>

<p>^ Please educate me.</p>

<p>News flash to Paul: there are other schools besides Harvard</p>

<p>Of course there are, however they cost around 20,000+ a year, have no guarantee of anything (except internship), and it’s like high school extended ^ please read block of text a few posts up for more information on my point.</p>

<p>I meant, what other plans except Harvard and CEO plan I can take (preferably cheap, unless high profits are involved, failing that, a good plan).</p>

<p>Just curious, why do you want to be CEO?
We unfortunately can not help you with your plans, that has to come from you.</p>

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<p>That was yesterday and not what’s applicable today. CHALLENGE: Name me one CEO today that doesn’t have a bachelors degree. I bet you can’t name one person because most CEO’s today have an MBA. And I bet a good many of them had to take out a loan to pay for that MBA!</p>

<p>^ likely none, but the person who started the enterprise might not have one.</p>

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It behooves you to actually demonstrate performance better than a 2.6 GPA in high school first, before u deride other colleges as just being “like high school extended”.</p>

<p>And what use is it to you whether Harvard gives generous FA if u are unlikely to be admitted? At this point, u have a very low GPA, no test scores to report, and no basis for cockiness.</p>

<p>^ I have 2 years of high school left if I decide to go the Harvard EA plan, and 3 days to decide on a plan. Many posters tell me that Harvard is indeed worth working towards and attending, my opinion is that instead of working 2 years, I could research and study for my CEO plan. </p>

<p>Remember as a student athlete, I still have a good chance of admission as long as I work on football and grades. Generous FA is very good perk to me, as I wish to attend college, if I go, tuition free, and possible free food and dorm with living stipend. Failing this, or very generous aid at Harvard (willing to be a few thou a year for a good school), I go to CEO plan 4 years early. My college education will consist of pain and tears, as I work to build an enterprise from nothing.</p>

<p>So posters, our debate will be to see where this ambitious 15 year old is going to end up, Harvard, or leading a large group of employees at age 18.</p>

<p>@Paul13375. I hate to break your delusional bubble…but, let me be blunt and frank. Neither.</p>

<p>@Paul13375 CEO actually stands for Chief Executive Officer, may be helpful when applying for these CEO positions in a few years…</p>

<p>Don’t worry gravitas, it will be one or the other. ^ And a epic fail with that typo, thank you sdgal. One additional thing gentlemen, I am not applying for a job offer, as we all can agree that I won’t be getting any offers of acceptance. The question is, work for Harvard or startup? I am sticking with Harvard right now, let me know if I should change my path.</p>

<p>Every year here on CC there is one… :^o </p>

<p>@Paul13375, the wand chooses the wizard</p>

<p>@Paul13375‌ </p>

<p>I’m going to weigh in once- I don’t have time to start a discussion.</p>

<p>When I was 15, I wanted different things to what I want now, at 18.
I wanted to be a paleontologist when I was 7- by age 11 that wasn’t even on the horizon.</p>

<p>You don’t know what you’ll want in 3 years. You don’t know what you’ll want in 10.
You don’t know what opportunities you’ll be given.
You don’t know what will be required of you. You could be supporting a family in 12 years.</p>

<p>There are so many indefinites- the best thing one can do is be prepared.
Don’t discover a passion for engineering at age 18, when it’s too late to become proficient in maths and science.
Don’t discover that you need a bachelor’s degree for an amazing job opportunity at age 22, but you don’t have one because you didn’t bother.</p>

<p>Educate yourself for the sake of knowledge and the sake of being prepared- those are the ‘ends’ of education.
I recommend that you pay attention to your GPA for your own sake.
In 3 years time, the CEO dream may have expired.</p>

<p>@Bemusedfyz,</p>

<p>Heck, at age six, my older son wanted to be a garbage collector. The idea of swinging off the back of a truck, no seat belt or anything, had a strange appeal to him. </p>