<p>i always argue with my friend on whether or not he will get into an ivy league. his gpa is 4.2 out of 4.3. he is in cum laude as a junior. national spanish honors society. Plays sports, does community service, goes to leadership conferences. to me it seems like its all there. takes tough classes. but i think he is nervous about his SAT, because i dont know if he is a good standardized test taker. do you guys think a grade around 2100 would be good enough to get into harvard if he gets that or do u think he needs higher? i tell him all the time thats more than enough but he still has doubts... thanks</p>
<p>whenever someone says, "I AM DOING THIS FOR A FRIEND" or "HELPING OUT A FRIEND", the post is for themselves, they are just too embarraesed to ask the question themselves...</p>
<p>so, kidfromohio, YOU need around 2250+ to be a vert competative applicant...</p>
<p>but don't acceptees get 2100 too?</p>
<p>some notes before my examples: generally, the ivies claim to NOT have a "minimum" or "cut-off" score. and we must keep in mind that low sat scores by any individual acceptee can be because he/she is well above outstanding in other areas. personally, i think that there must be some sort of cut-off for most candidates, and various articles have proved this. i have speculated that there is a minimum of 2100+ although every ivy league claims differently. also, i am using examples from two of the top ivies in our country, but it by no means says that other schools will not be looking for a higher score. it's all relative to the standards of each college.</p>
<p>words from some different ivies:
"There are no score cutoffs for standardized tests: the median scores for admitted students on the verbal and mathematical portions of the SAT generally fall in the low-to-mid 700s..." (<a href="http://www.yale.edu/admit/faq/advice.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.yale.edu/admit/faq/advice.html</a>)</p>
<p>"Harvard does not have clearly defined, required minimum scores; however, the majority of students admitted to the College represent a range of scores from roughly 600 to 800 on each section of the SAT I..."
<a href="http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/utilities/faq/admissions/tests/index.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.college.harvard.edu/utilities/faq/admissions/tests/index.html</a>)</p>
<p>there have been applicants admitted with 1850's, and athletes with even lower...</p>
<p>yes but athletes are "special" (haha.. no no i guess they are =) they have talent some of us will never have). and yes, we have to keep in mind that some applicants are more outstanding in certain areas that make them more desirable.</p>
<p>im not asking for myself, i would do so if i were. my score was a 2210 but my gpa is nowhere near 4.2. i am not looking at the ivy's. so if my friend scores a 2250 or higher he is a quialified applicant or is probably in?</p>
<p>SAT I plays a very small part in ACTUALLY getting you ADMITTED. a great SAT score will only let you be CONSIDERED and not thrown into the cut-off pile. i think you're taking the ivy league admissions way way way too light and easy.</p>
<p>no i dont think i am. my friend has EVERYTHING besides a perceived good SAT score. there is no blemish you can find on his transcript, besides dropping from spanish 3 honors to spanish 4; however he is moving way up to AP spanish LIT next year. i was just wondering if his SAT of 2100 would keep him OUT, not get him IN.</p>
<p>well then your question has already been answered about five times by me and evan and may i say in great detail without any thanks.</p>
<p>sorry it just seems like youre thoughts are divided. thanks alot im still just confused</p>
<p>What people are trying to get you to understand is that even with PERFECT SAT scores, a flawless transcript, fabulous extracurriculars, outstanding essays, and being a model citizen, all that will only get you in the "considered" pile--along with all the rest of the kids in the country like that. Then the admissions committee goes to work, rejecting something like 9 out of 10 in that pile.</p>
<p>k thanks mom. now a personal question, my sat's are higher than my friends, but everything else academic is not as good. i have a lot of extra curriculars and 'life challenges.' is it worth applying if my grades arent all there?</p>
<p>I am of the opinion that if you are not confident you are Harvard material--you probably aren't. There are plenty of other great schools out there. Find one that won't charge you an arm and a leg for the privilege of attending.</p>
<p>yea i know thanks for the advice. do you think name recognition really matters for UG if i want to go on and say..get a law degree?</p>
<p>they have talent some of us will never have</p>
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<p>you can become better in sports
you cant make yourself more intelligent.</p>
<p>just pointing out the fallacy there.</p>