Academic pre-read for Ivy

<p>Classical, the OV invite happened when the formal preread came back with a thumbs up, in august maybe? Also, iirc the financial aid preread was done at the same time as the academic preread…submitted the paperwork at the same time, anyway, because the financial aid package didn’t show up until after the ED deadline, go figure. If financial aid is an issue, I suggest getting that paperwork in ASAP.</p>

<p>Perhaps the timing of OV invite differs by D1 vs D3 and by schools/athletes. I am positive that many OVs are out before August and some are out now.</p>

<p>5amriser or Hobbiton: Are OVs a formal thing - something in writing like a formal invitation, or is it the coach saying, “I’m going to bring you out on an official visit in September. Details to be worked out.” My son has the latter, but maybe it’s not real, because although the coaches have seen his academic info, they have not completed the pre-read.</p>

<p>I did not know the affirmative pre-read comes back directly from Admissions. I assumed it came through the coach. How long does a pre-read take? Thanks for sharing your experience.</p>

<p>I think the degree of formality depends on schools/coaches. The OV invites S received thus far are through emails from the coaches he has been corresponding with for a while (they have all his academic materials). PM if you have specific questions.</p>

<p>Just to add, which may be obvious, but at the DI level, the gauge of serious interest on the part of the college is the invitation to the official overnight visit. Since it is a cost to them & the colleges are limited in the number of OV’s they can offer, they tend to only offer an OV if seriously interested.</p>

<p>I think the degree of formality does depend on the specific school. My D actually had one situation where the head coach neglected to ask for transcript/SATs, and still brought her out on a visit. During the visit it became clear at some point that he THOUGHT he had seen her grades/scores, and was making assumptions about the degree of support she would “need” to get through admissions. It was awkward when she had to explain that he had never seen her transcript. At the other end of the spectrum was the school that was ultra formal and had a written packet that explained the preread process, detailed all the attachments that needed to be sent, etc.</p>

<p>By the way, the academic preread results do come back through the coach…although the financial aid results came back directly from financial aid.</p>

<p>It’s possible there are OV invites out right now…last summer at our champ meet there was a huddle of college coaches sitting together near me…one of them struck up a conversation with me after hearing us cheer for D during her 100 breast, and then later came over to introduce himself to D and ask if she could come out for an OV. Lots of stuff goes on during the summer, it comes from so many different directions, the coaches all have different personalities and do things in so many different ways.</p>

<p>Agree wholeheartedly with NOT writing off schools that don’t respond at first. My son just got a very encouraging email from a school he wrote in January and then again in April. They hadn’t responded until this week.</p>

<p>for anyone that’s wondering, the pre read is sometime this week and you’ll have to ask the coach to tell you how it went.</p>

<p>EmilyHockey, let us know how it goes for you.</p>

<p>Is the pre read stage important?</p>

<p>The pre-read stage is very important as it is a pre-read of your academics by admissions. It is done if the coach requests from you SAT / ACT and SAT2s, plus transcript thru junior year - sometimes senior schedule as well. </p>

<p>If you have been asked for this info, the coach is likely asking admissions to look at the info and determine if the athlete would be admissible or not. A green light means recruitment can continue; otherwise recruitment stops. Once the pre-read is a go, official visits may be discussed if the coach wants the athlete. Anyone anything else to add? We are going through this process for the first time.</p>

<p>This makes me curious because we have already had three coaches mention visiting in the fall. They have all the numbers at this point that we have. I wonder if they are able to largely go over the numbers in their own head and get a sense of whether or not they should even be mentioning a visit this far ahead of time.</p>

<p>I believe it’s an NCAA requirement for all D1 schools to have transcripts and test scores in hand before the OV. The OV offer means that you’re at least in the ballpark academically. In the Ivies, I wouldn’t interpret it to mean that you’re a ‘go’ with admissions yet. They’re not going to rule on that until the complete ap has been submitted.
But you’re on your way - first hurdle is cleared!</p>

<p>“Once the pre-read is a go, official visits may be discussed if the coach wants the athlete”</p>

<p>Yes, GP, perhaps I should have said ‘discussed seriously’. Our son had a couple of coaches mention coming out in the fall, but now they are doing a pre-read to MAKE SURE they can bring S out. It felt like before it was hopeful talk; now we are getting down to the details. I am really getting the impression that each sport has its own flavor.</p>

<p>Varska - I was under the impression that if you ARE GOING on an OV, then you have passed the pre-read with admissions. Of course the pre-read is only part of the whole admittance process. But are you saying that the actual pre-read may not happen until after the OV?
Having documents ‘in hand’ is very different from have a pre-read, correct?</p>

<p>Maybe I am splitting hairs, but I keep thinking that at some point soon we will know whether or not basic academics are cleared.</p>

<p>Rowmom,</p>

<p>I think Varsa is saying that even if you pass a pre-read and are offended an OV you are not guaranteed admission. An athlete complete application must be formally evaluated by the admission committee before a likely letter or offer of admission is issued. This usually occurs after the OV. If an Ivy league coach supports the athlete who passes the pre-read with a “slot” (and there are a limited number of these) then usually the athlete is admitted. However if there is a problem with the athletes application such as a poorly written essay he can be rejected by admissions even with full support from a coach.</p>

<p>got it. that makes sense. So still do well on the essays and hope the LORs are excellent!</p>

<p>Exactly right, swimkidsdad. Thanks.</p>