Accelerated Pgms: listings & rankings.

<p>I was accepted to the RPI/AMC program, and I know I'm not attending because I didn't like either campus. They're both decent programs, but unless you can see yourself in Troy/Albany for seven years, it probably won't work out. I agree with inthemoney... the medical school complex was boring/unimpressive. I also don't like that you have to major in Biology the first three years (I know it doesn't make a huge difference, but I'm more inclined to engineering). During my interviews, one of my interviewers said that RPI will be starting a similar program as Bioengineering/Medicine.</p>

<p>Thanks for all the info on AMC/RPI.I want to do higher level science classes without worrying too much about GPA or Mcats.And I love biology.Gangsta has some good points about the program. BUt I guess the campus /building is not that great!
Johnc613...I am a little curious about your comments about Albany not being a good school.In what sense...do the students not match for the top residency programs, do they not have good exposure to different patient group or they dont score well on the boards?</p>

<p>it is not very prestigious. it does not make any rankings. its average mcat composite is 9.8. Baylor is 11.3. even OSU is 10.8. It is clearly lackluster when compared to any school on our present list.</p>

<p>Yeah, I am not sure why Brown med school is not more highly regarded, that's a good question. And I did not know there were actual clinical rankings. Do you have a link where those are listed? It sounds pretty helpful.</p>

<p>george washington med school is TOP. it should definitely be on the list.
last yr it accepted 3.6% of applicants, whereas Harvard med accepted 7.6%, just to put my opinion in perspective.</p>

<p>GWU is a mid-tier school as far as med school goes. Top tier schools can never compete with mid-tier schools for applications because mid-tier schools draw applications from both top applicants (who use them as safety schools) and mid and bottom applicants (who use them as reach schools). Schools like Harvard or Columbia will only draw applications from top applicants.</p>

<p>GWU's averages are only around 3.6/30 and the med school is not even ranked. Harvard has averages of 3.8/35 and is ranked #1 by a comfortable margin over JHU, just to put my opinion in perspective.</p>

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<p>I am currently a Junior at a reputed high school in Florida. I am interested in applying for 7-Year Medical Programs. Currently, I have finished taking AP classes in Biology, Physics, Chemistry, German, Calculus AB, World History, and English Language. I will be taking the AP classes in Environmental Sciences, Statistics, and Psychology this year. My GPA is 3.92 unweighted and the weighted GPA is at 4.32. My high school rank is 6 out of 780. Most of my AP National exam scores are 5 except for two exams. I am planning on taking SAT this fall. My trial scores in SAT are ranging from 620-670 (Reading)/740-780 (Math)/730-760(Writing). I believe my composite score are going to be above 2100. </p>

<p>I am very dedicated to attend the accelerated B.S/M.D program. There are few lingering questions I have:</p>

<p>1) What is the average SAT score they need? Please provide me with the range. Do you consider the Writing Section score or only value the Verbal and Math sections?</p>

<p>2) What kind of extra curricular activities that I need to have? Should I hold lot executive position in clubs as supposed to be a member? I am a vice President of American Asian Club at the school. I am already an active member of National Honor Society, major science clubs, Key Clubs.</p>

<p>3) I have presented valuable papers in Junior Science Symposiums (University of Florida) in several occasions for the last 3 years. I have won several awards in County Science Fair Projects.</p>

<p>4) I have had more than 200 hrs of volunteer work at the hospital</p>

<p>5) I have played Tennis for High School team, played Piano at various small concerts, and participated in various Dance festivals/competition, Math Olympiad competition etc.,</p>

<p>This is just a gist of what I have done. I may have left out some smaller details. </p>

<p>What are my chances of getting an interview/admission in accelerated program? Can you advise me about anything that I could be missing here? But I would have completed 10 AP courses worth nearly 50 college credit hours.</p>

<p>I understand the competition is keen therefore I am not risking my position here. I hope that I can get accepted for 7 year Medical program with full scholarship. </p>

<p>Thanks much for the response.</p>

<p>Mike</p>

<p>Hey Mike. I'm a senior who lives in Fl. I recently got accepted into an accelerated program and in two weeks will be interviewing at Rice/Baylor. To answer mcotocjc's questions:</p>

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<li><p>Though there is no minimum requirement, average SATs scores have been in the 2200s. Most programs look at the SATs on a 2400 scale now.</p></li>
<li><p>Again, there are no extra-curriculars that you really "need" to have. Do what you are interested in. These programs aren't looking for people who were part of a certain club or activity. They're looking for different applicants who are involved in different activities but are all committed to those activites. </p></li>
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<p>3-5. Weren't questions. </p>

<p>Your class rank is impressive. you should, however, consider aiming for a bit higher on the SAT. Though it is only a qualifier, the SAT does help you get into the narrowed pool of applicants who will be considered for these programs. Also, you should get some research/hospital experience under your belt. </p>

<p>Good luck! Hope the rest of your junior year goes well and remember to have some fun in senior year!</p>

<p>Do you guys think a 2140 on the sat would hurt my chances (1440 out of 1600)? I don't think I can get much higher.</p>

<p>you still have a shot but you will be competing against a lot of people with higher scores. For example, my score is about 200 points higher than yours.
If you have some extraordinary ECs, you might still be able to land an interview, but if you are just another person with hospital hours, minimal research experience, just a tad bit of shadowing doctors, etc.....the 2140 is not gonna help you stand out. If you have some ECs that are truly unique though, the 2140 will not deter you.
Of course, it's hard to give you a complete analysis of your chances without seeing all of your stats but that's all the advice I can offer you based on what I see.</p>

<p>Mike,
My son was only interested in 8 yr programs so I'm not sure if the requirements are different for 7 yr programs. He went through this last year and found that many of those interviewed had 2300+ SATs, with 700+ SATIIs (more likely 750+). Most schools required Chem SATIIs, in addition to Math and sometimes one other subject. </p>

<p>I know URochester REMS program had their minimum requirements right on their website. 3.95 unweighted GPA. Top 1-2% class rank. When he interviewed, he found most kids had similar APs (he had 9 or 10) unless their schools didn't offer them. He was impressed by how smart everyone was. Some kids had done extensive research, which he had not. Everyone had volunteer experience and leadership ECs. Job shadowing seemed relevant also. </p>

<p>When we went to UMiami for the Singer Scholarship weekend, he recognized several kids from the REMS weekend. Seems like some kids just went from school to school - some applying to as many as 10 programs. My son only applied to a few as he wasn't sure if he wanted to do a combined program. When he visited/interviewed at his schools, he had a better sense of the advantages of the guaranteed program. He also realized that he didn't want to attend one of his schools (Case).</p>

<p>I think UMiami med program shows a preference for FL kids, but we met a FL kid who was outstanding and still didn't get into Miami's program (but he got a good scholarship at one the programs in Tampa - maybe USF?). My son didn't get into UMiami's program but was offered the Singer Scholarship (full tuition). </p>

<p>All you can do is apply and see what happens. Hope for an interview. If you get to that stage, I think it's a new ballgame. I think stats matter less. </p>

<p>Don't expect to get full rides at most places. We found that many kids complained their merit/Faid packages weren't as good as they expected because the schools figured they would come anyway because of the "guaranteed" acceptance. But some schools do offer decent merit awards but not full tuition. Some kids we met had to turn down their 1st choice programs (BU, GWU, PLME) due to cost. They chose state programs instead. Here in NJ, we know kids in our combined state undergrad (TCNJ or Rutgers) who get free tuition so with the instate med school rates, the program is quite affordable. </p>

<p>Good luck. I agree it might help to increase your SAT score, but I don't think writing is as important as the other scores - so if your math and CR are up there, you should be ok. Your essays will be very important. You need to "show" that you know yourself well enough to know you want to be a doctor.</p>

<p>az1698 scores arnt everything. My sat score was the same as yours and i got interviews at all the programs i applied to.</p>

<p>it really depends on the schools...Rice/Baylor, Brown, NU, etc are top notch, so your SATs will most def. matter...on the contrary, other programs such as Union/AMC, VCU/MCV, and GW look at ECs a lot. My SAT was only a 2100 (33 ACT) and I got into most of the schools i applied to (Union, VCU, SBU/GWUSM, etc.)</p>

<p>I had scores like the person above me and I also got into VCU/MCV... it was most definitely because of my ECs, health care related experiences, etc. more so than just pretty good scores</p>

<p>so I agree that they weigh ECs more heavily than some other places</p>

<p>Dareal and Thechaag can you guys post your stats?</p>

<p>4.2 GPA
20/320 Rank</p>

<p>2100/2400 SAT (1400/1600)
33/36 ACT</p>

<p>5 AP Biology, 4 AP Chem, AP Calc/AP Micro/AP Macro TBD</p>

<p>SAT II Bio:720, Chem and Math I don't remember right now</p>

<p>LOTS of ECs, such as EMS, hospital volunteering, doctor shadowing, HS Soccer, Youth Group VP, etc etc</p>

<p>Accepted: SBU/GWUSM, VCU/MCV, Union/AMC, NJIT/SGU</p>

<p>Rejected: Siena/AMC, Rice/Baylor (I didn't get any notification...), REMS, NEOUCOM, UMKC</p>

<p>Waiting on Drexel...</p>

<p>public school in CA
4.3 weighted GPA (in top 20 percent of about 400 seniors)</p>

<p>4 AP Statistics, Psychology, Chemistry, and Spanish Language
3 AP US History
AP Calculus AB and AP Macro Economics are TBD</p>

<p>2110/2400 SAT... 1420/1600 (800 Math, 620 C.R.)</p>

<p>31/36 ACT</p>

<p>Math II Subject Test: 800, Chemistry was horrible (don't remember the score, but it was under 700)</p>

<p>Worked in an ophthalmologist's office for over 2 years (wrote one of my essays about this)</p>

<p>Volunteered at a hospital for 7 months </p>

<p>Senior Class VP, lots of other extracurrics</p>

<p>I only applied to the programs at USC and VCU... I got into VCU/MCV, but didn't even get an interview at USC</p>

<p>Here's my two cents on Michigan State University's Medical Scholars program...</p>

<p>Although the undergrad school itself isn't ranked that highly (around 70-ish), its research is very strong. The allopathic medical school is ranked around 15 for primary care, and its osteopathic med school is ranked 4th for primary care also. </p>

<p>The direct med programs allow full freedom for undergrad studies and also organizes group activities/training just for Medical Scholars.</p>

<p>Admission is really competitive. Medical Scholars program accepts 10 from over 220 applicants. 8 are usually in-state.</p>

<p>wow thechaagaaaz our stats are strikingly similiar!!!</p>

<p>haha yea i know.. that's pretty crazy man</p>