Accelerated Pgms: listings & rankings.

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>What do you mean by, "yet its top 10% match rates are just as good." How do you know who's in the top 10% - are u talking about students or matching into residency programs associated with medical schools? For certain fields, you're better off using USWNR Best Hospitals Guide rather than Med School Rankings: Top</a> American Hospitals – US News Best Hospitals</p>

<p>Realize also that with regards to the match it also is complicated with what fields people decide to pursue. Just because no one applies to derm or another competitive field, for example, that year doesn't mean anything. What complicates it more is that people also have backup specialties as well.</p>

<p>Also you have to look at quality of education. Generally those with higher NIH funding are able to garner better PhDs who do research and thus are very high in their field, and thus are knowledgeable in their field. Thus students benefit from having them as teachers or getting involved in their research. I'm not talking about quality of education with respect to teaching to the test (USMLE Step 1), I'm talking about medical education as a whole. Baylor College of Medicine - is a very good example.</p>

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<p>I think we are arguing completely different issues then...ur arguing on quality of education, and I'm arguing on judging a program as a whole to see if its values and advantages are in line with the applicant's priorities for is life. And in order to judge the best possible program for you, rankings do not always tell the whole story. </p>

<p>For instance, lets say a person gets into two ba/md accelerated medical programs. One is clearly better than the other in terms of ranking and quality of education. But the other is a state university program that has a annual tuition of around 15k a year. The latter program may choose to be a better option for several people...</p>

<p>So, if ur arguing about how the rankings are an accurate indicator of quality of education, i dont deny that. But rankings dont tell the whole story as you could see from the preceding example of the state medical program.</p>

<p>Sorry if i was obscure about this in my earlier posts...</p>

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<p>I heard that people are very happy to get into ANY Medical school, they do not care about ranking. This includes even IVY and other extremely selective Undergrads graduates. Unless we are discussing the choices that some genius applicants have, the majority Med. school applicants would be very happy to get accepted to any Med. School. So, if you are accepted to any combined program, go for it. If you accepted to few, choose one using your own criteria (accelerated or not, freedom of major / minor, MCAT or not....). Ranking is practically irrelevant. More so, as somebody pointed out, future specialty (which you might not know now) might point out to totally different ranking. For example, relatively low ranked U of Cincinnatiy College of Medicine is #3 in Pediatrics after John Hopkins and Harvard and beats Harvard in Dermotoly ranking. And it all can change in 8 years anyway.</p>

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<p>Hi, I'm a junior and want to go to an accelerated med program. I have a 4.2 GPA (unweighted 4.0), and PSAT of 219, I'm the captain of the volleyball and soccer team, the president of Medical club, and I'm on a few other clubs. I also volunteered at two hospitals and at a cerebral pasly center and I did research with a local hospitol. I also created an organization that sends supplies and money to orphanges in India for kids with AIDS.
My problem is that I'm only in the to 15% of my class, will this really hurt my chances? If so what do you suggest I do?</p>

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<p>angelgrl31392, some programs do have cutoffs regarding rank and you would be hurt but your rank may change a bit this year. Are you taking the toughest curriculum offered? That tends to be very important to the top schools. In fact most schools we visited for both of my kids stated that was the MOST important thing they looked for. I think in combined programs it would be even more critical as it shows you are challenging yourself and can still do well - something that shows you can handle the medical school requirements as they come up.</p>

<p>If you are taking a bunch of weighted classes this year and next (my son had 9 APs starting in 10th grade, the rest honors), then getting top grades in weighted classes will move you up in rank over kids who choose less challenging classes. SO, you still have time to move ahead.</p>

<p>IF you are at a highly competitive school where everyone is already taking all advanced classes (so it would be tough to jump ahead), then your regional college rep SHOULD be aware of the difficulty of your curriculum and the school could take that into consideration. Often HSs like that don't provide rank as it can hurt the student.</p>

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<p>MiamiDAP, there are no Dermatology rankings. Not to mention Harvard is one of the best derm programs. And while not absolute, when it comes to COMPETITIVE specialties, deciding between you and another applicant, can come down to your medical school. Not all medical schools are given the same weight. An education at UPenn is different then an education at NEOCOM.</p>

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<p>UW Madison also has a 6-7 yr programme!</p>

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<p>Actually, Happytograduate, you will find that the education at Penn med is NOT different than the education at NEOCOM. The LCME has extremely stringent regulations for med school accreditation and this helps ensure that all med schools teach with the same level of quality. When it comes to residency, med school reputation is at the bottom of the list of residency directors' selection criteria. Here's a reference: </p>

<p>Wiley</a> InterScience :: Session Cookies</p>

<p>Some anecdotal stuff:</p>

<p>This year Penn matched 2 kids into derm. My unranked state school matched 5 kids into derm. Last year we matched more kids into Neurosurgery than any other school in the country. Does that mean anything in particular? not really. But it just shows you that med school ranking isn't really a big deal. If you're going into medicine I strongly suggest you go out and enjoy life now, don't worry about this crap... because life will start to suck a whole lot when you're actually in med school, don't waste your time fretting.</p>

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<p>hey im a junior in high school, and i am i have taken all the ap math’s and sciences with excellent grades</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:
job as a lifeguard, tutoring kids, volunteering at 2 local hospitals, instruction in lyrical jazz, broadway jazz, modern, and tango dance and was on the regional team, have had several years of vocal coaching, volunteered abroad in Costa Rica, took an intensive genetics course at a local college, did PPPL research internship, masonic medical research fellowship program, Washington University school of medicine young scientist program, job at local hospital, job at day care, job at library, job at Michael’s, job at pizza hut (:))</p>

<p>i am also taking the SATs this year, and expect to do very good (taking it from the PSATs)</p>

<p>i aim to get into an ivy league/really good school’s accelerated program. where do you think i have the best chance and what SAT score do you think will ensure this?</p>

<p>thx</p>

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<p>I read a few posts with lists of accelerated BS/MD combined programs, but it seems the “accelerated” part is only to do with undergrad. I’m halfway done with my undergrad, so I was wondering if there are any accelerated MD progams by themselves?</p>

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<p>Hey I was just wondering if you guys think I could get into the Northwestern HPME with these scores</p>

<p>SAT: 2260
ACT:34, WRITING:11
SAT II’s:
Math II:800
Biology: 750
World HIstory: 760
Chemisty: 710</p>

<p>AP’s: Calculus BC: 5
World History: 5
Waitinng on English Language and Comp, Environmental Science, and Comparative Government (hoping to get all fives).</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

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<p>Your scores alone will get you an application, but probly not an interview.
You’ll need research (crucial for HPME), shadowing, a great essay, and other activities that show you’re set on pursuing a career in medicine to get an interview. Then if you ace the interview, you’re much more likely to get in.</p>

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<p>i had similar stats as eshizzle, no shadowing, research, ok essay. got interviews at hpme, rice/baylor and others. didnt get into hpme or any other combined program. do a lot of clinical stuff!!!</p>

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<p>How/where would you do research in high school?</p>

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<p>Can someone give me suggestions for which accelerated programs would be a fit for me?</p>

<p>Stats: (I’ll keep them simple)</p>

<p>SAT: 2310 one sitting
SATII: 800 MATH2, 800Chem, 770Bio-E
5 on AP Chem, USH, Stats
GPA: No clue, high A/A+
Rank: School doesn’t rank, at least top 10%</p>

<p>ECs (related to science?) : Volunteer at hospital, brief research at hospital, volunteer at American Cancer Society, internship at AIDS center (a bunch of others but these are only related to med)</p>

<p>Ethnicity: Asian (Male from MA)</p>

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<p>Do all of these have certain SAT II requirements???</p>

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<li>TCNJ w/ UMDNJ suckas.</li>
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<p>seriously tho, its the ****.</p>

<p>other than that, Brown and a couple others. I would stay away from the Drexel ones, you HAVE to take MCATs with a MINIMUM of 31. </p>

<p>But if you really wanna get into one of these programs. During the interview, make them think that that program is the one you need. make them think that its your only shot. dont try make them think youre amazing by saying, oh i got into harvard, princeton, yale, etc. you DONT want to make yourself look OVER-qualified. Esp for the smaller med schools. I’m at TCNJ/UMDNJ and honestly its amazing.</p>

<p>Well, honestly, a number cannot determine where you belong. So, its kinda stupid asking: hey look at my numbers and tell me where i should go.</p>

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<p>[url=<a href=“http://perfectmed.tk/]perfectmed.tk[/url”>http://perfectmed.tk/]perfectmed.tk[/url</a>] has a good list of resources for med programs with links to their admission websites as well.</p>

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<p>here’s a website with a list of 90% of these programs along with SAT/SATII/ACT requirements, GPA, and MCAT scores. </p>

<p>[BA/MD</a> School Listing - Medical and Dental School Help](<a href=“http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/]BA/MD”>http://www.medicalhelpnet.com/content/view/28/46/)</p>

<p>btw, i’m doing the same thing so if you find anything else thats helpful please please please message me! i was actually looking for these programs when i came across your post!</p>

<p>thanks!
happy searching!</p>

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<p>Hello :slight_smile:
After skimming through many of these posts, I don’t think I have much of a chance of getting in to these programs, but I thought I’d post my stats and let you all decide?
I’m currently a junior and these are my current stats:</p>

<p>Public School, in a magnet program (one of those ncsssmst schools, additional requirements for this school)</p>

<p>Weighted Gpa: 4.597 on a 5+ scale (its low b/c i transferred freshman year from a school without honors for all its classes, so a much lower scale)
Unweighted: ~3.7/3.8
Rank: 51/613 (believe it will go up at the end of this year)
SAT I: (so far) Math: 650 CR: 710 W: 790 Combined: 2150, 1360 (math & cr)
SAT II: Chem: (I did this with just honors chem so thats why its really bad…) 580 World History: 710
APs: World History: 4, Environmental Science, Statistics, English Language & Comp, U.S. History TBD this year,
Next Year: APs: Calc BC, AP Gov’t, AP Macro, AP Psychology, Biology
DC (Dual Credit- College & HS Credit) English, Anatomy/Physiology
Honors: Organic Chem, Electronics & Robotics</p>

<p>EC- Academic Wise:
2010-
regional science fair, local winner for environmental, and different contest for photography
• Qualified for Regional Science and Engineering Fair of Houston in Environmental </p>

<p>2009<br>
state science fair, 2nd at regional, local winner </p>

<p>2008<br>
honorable mention for a creative writing contest, Local, Regional, State Science Olympiad (team and individual qualifier)</p>

<p>2007 & 2006
Local, Regional, State Science Olympiad (team and individual qualifier)</p>

<p>• Attended National Youth Leadership Forum on Medicine (NYLF MED) </p>

<p>Volunteering:
Volunteer Weekly at a hospital, currently 127 + hours, will get much more in the next year or so.
over 180+ hours of additional community volunteering. - running for officer this year
Lettered in Leo Club (school service club)
This Summer:
Summer School through a university, job shadowing for a week or two</p>

<p>EC:
• Secretary for Junior State of America (running for president this year)
• Active participant in the National English Honor Society
• Ecology Club
• Cultural Connections (running for vp this year)
• Have played piano for 7 years
• Tennis player on the JV Tennis Team and taken 1st, 2nd, or 3rd in numerous Tennis Tournaments; also take outside private lessons
• Member of the Social Studies UIL team</p>

<p>Sorry this is rather detailed. I just want to know if I have a chance (if so, how much of one) to get into those combined programs.
I’m considering applying to these:
Union/Albany
Brown PLME
GWU
Case Western
Pitt
and a few others… </p>

<p>Yes, No?
Suggestions, improvements, comments, concerns… </p>

<p>Thanks in advance! :D</p>