Accelerated Pgms: listings & rankings.

<p>Hey, we're allowed to minor in anything we think we can handle. :-)
Congrats, kbpe!</p>

<p>Thanks, sar! :) I didn't mean any offense to SDers, of course. It's just that that's the primary reason why I might not attend Sophie. Might come to the Apr17th reception, though; will you be there?</p>

<p>And I don't mind sharing my stats.. but they're not phenomenal:
**http:// p r s t a t s . c o m /2009/display.php?user=kbpe<a href="%5E%20without%20the%20spaces">/b</a></p>

<p>What I know about UMKC is that it's a really great hands on program with docent teams and hands on experience as early as the second year. They take about 125 students total every year, but only about 20-30 out of state. Their requirement on the ACT is only a 28, but they're not focused as much on how high you can score but what your volunteer and experience has been in the medical field so far. From what I've seen and heard it's an excellent program and last year they placed 95-98% in the top three choices of residency.</p>

<p>Hey kbpe,</p>

<p>No offense taken. :)</p>

<p>College Russian? Cool.</p>

<p>Go to the reception--the food there is really good! lol
There will be many students available to answer questions.
And you can ask them questions about minoring in another subject.</p>

<p>If you're a humanities buff, though, it might truly be hard to fit in all the classes you want to take, unless you take summer classes. The med curriculum can be intense. </p>

<p>Aahh, I commute like 1.5 to 2 hours each way, so I don't think I'll come to the reception--I have a biochem exam the next day (apr18), and since I'm 7 lectures behind right now (i'm just slow with memorizing stuff, and this part of the class involves a lot of memorization--the old SAT verbal section was not fun for me), I think I'll need every minute of study time during the weekend. lol</p>

<p>But I'm glad I can get the med exams over with now, instead of sitting for the big hairy MCAT before burning through them in 2 years in med school. We start taking med classes during our 3rd year (actually, you could say we start 1st year, since the chem and orgo classes are geared toward med and leave out physical chem and stuff [like Schrodinger's equation]), so we kind of have more time to learn the med material. That leaves less time for electives, but the determined student can still get all she/he wants. ;)</p>

<p>I don't plan to minor in anything--with a major already in place and always on pace, I am free to take whatever electives I want, and I don't really have a <em>passion</em>, so I take random stuff, like math, biophysics, research in psychology, piano (twice)... that's it for now. lol
I wanted to take a philosophy or comp sci elective, but my schedule didn't work out. Maybe next term.
Popular electives here include psychology (many aspects) and ceramics.</p>

<p>btw, about the equivalents of ur APs at SD--
Bio = bio101 (1 semester, but not required anyway)
English L/C = engl110 (l/c=language and composition?) (1 semester required)
World hist = World Civilizations 101 (1 semester required)
Chem = u will have to take chem again no matter what, but the AP background helps a lot
Calc AB = Math 201 (1 semester, not required anyway)</p>

<p>I don't know if you've seen this, but here is the official SD curriculum, just recently revised: <a href="http://med.cuny.edu/curriculum.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://med.cuny.edu/curriculum.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>lol okay I'll take my unsolicited, boredom-driven rambling elsewhere, now... like onto the pages of my biochem book... lol</p>

<p>Hi,
Does anyone know if Cornell has a 6/7 year med program</p>

<p>never heard of cornell having a combined degree program in which a hihg schooler can apply to</p>

<p>rmaindn: "Does anyone know if Cornell has a 6/7 year med program"</p>

<p>Cornell doesn't have one. Here is the complete list of combined degree programs (available at <a href="http://services.aamc.org/currdir/section3/degree2.cfm?data=yes&program=bsmd%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://services.aamc.org/currdir/section3/degree2.cfm?data=yes&program=bsmd&lt;/a> ):</p>

<p>Schools Offering Combined Degree Programs in BS/MD
Total: 31</p>

<p>Albany Medical College
University of Florida College of Medicine
George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences
Howard University College of Medicine
Jefferson Medical College of Thomas Jefferson University
University of Kentucky College of Medicine
University of Miami School of Medicine
Meharry Medical College
University of Nebraska College of Medicine
Northwestern University, The Feinberg School of Medicine
Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California
UMDNJ--New Jersey Medical School
University of Wisconsin Medical School
Brown Medical School
University of California, San Diego, School of Medicine
University of South Florida College of Medicine
The Texas A & M University System Health Science Center College of Medicine
Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
East Tennessee State University James H. Quillen College of Medicine
Dalhousie University Faculty of Medicine
Drexel University College of Medicine
Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine
Temple University School of Medicine
Boston University School of Medicine
UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
Stony Brook University Health Sciences Center School of Medicine
Tufts University School of Medicine
University of Connecticut School of Medicine
David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA
University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry
The Chicago Medical School at Rosalind Franklin U-Med & Sci</p>

<p>Thanks for the post Hormesis2. It's very helpful.</p>

<p>as was noticed by another poster on another thread: there are some programs missing, namely pitts, case, and rice/baylor. some are for instate applicants only, like ucsd, and univ of wisc, i think.</p>

<p>Hey sar,
that biochem stuff sounds like a lot of fun. I recently got accepted to SD and am going to go there next year. Where do you live (LI? or queens are) that you are commuting about 2 hrs/way? I would be commuting the same amount if i was to stay at home, but i hope to live on campus. Do you find it is hard to find time to study due to the commute?<br>
thanks, just an anxious new SD student :)</p>

<p>Guys rank the accelerated med programs from what you believe is the best by their stats
What do you think is the new list?????????????????</p>

<p>Old list of med programs
1. Rice University
2. Brown University
3. Penn State University
4. University of Rochester
5. Case Western Reserve University
6. Northwestern University
7. Lehigh University
8. Boston University
9. University of Wisconsin
10. New York University
11. University of California - Riverside
12. Villanova University
13. College of New Jersey
14. University of Michigan
15. University of Miami</p>

<p>The list looks solid to me. I'd drop #4 (never heard of it), #10 (no longer exists), and #15 (only because I'm jealous that they did not accept out-of-state students!)</p>

<p>I'm not going to get into ranking these because this type of thread pops up too many times. There was one started by a mod that was actually pretty good. You should, however drop #14 because they no longer have a program either. #4 is an excellent program from what I've heard and read.</p>

<h1>4 is a very well-known program (Rochester REMS). #15, UMiami, does accept out-of-state students...I think they just started last year.</h1>

<p>I'm not sure why PSU and Rochester are ahead of Northwestern and CWRU. Those two definitely belong in the top four at least. </p>

<p>However, this ranking is misleading. There are so many factors that go into determining which med program is the best for you, like the quality of the undergrad, the quality of the med school, whether it's accelerated or not, cost, etc.</p>

<p>edit: yeah, spydersport got ahead of me.</p>

<p>Is this a complete list of combined med programs? I think the University of Southern California has an 8 year program. Is it true that different programs have slightly different focuses (rural medicine oriented, research, etc.). Logically, it would make sense that different programs would focus on different areas.</p>

<p>i agree with spydersport because ranking is really a subjective game, and as asterstar pointed out, there are many factors to consider</p>

<p>having said this: i believe that #9 is for wisconsin residents only and i know that #11 uc riverside/ucla is not a direct program</p>

<p>in terms of stats: uc san diego's med scholars program, although for california residents only, is one of the hardest to get in, namely because only students with a minimum 4.0 gpa and a minimum (old) sat of 1500 or act 34 are invited to apply, before they can submit the supplementary material. sorry for the shameless plug :)</p>

<p>cdn_dancer: no, this is not a complete list. many programs are not included. this website may help: medicalhelpnet.com</p>

<h1>15 (Miami) does accept out-of-state (I got in this year, I'm from MD)</h1>

<p>also, you may want to add Pittsburgh, which has an 8 year program. I don't know where it would fit in the rankings though.</p>

<ol>
<li>Northwestern HPME</li>
<li>Rice/Baylor</li>
<li>UCSD med scholars (CA residents only)</li>
<li>Case western PPSP</li>
<li>Brown PLME</li>
<li>Rochester</li>
<li>USC Bac MD</li>
</ol>

<p>Id put NW at the top of the list bc its accelerated and has both an awesome ugrad and med school + no MCATs. Rice is also a pretty solid ugrad and Baylor school of medicine is good -- tho its not accelerated and so the only benefit to the program is no MCATs. UCSD's program is AWESOME but they only take 12 kids from CA. UCSD ugrad is good but not the same caliber as a Rice or Northwestern; the med school is awesome tho -- PLUS you have to consider that it is significantly cheaper than most other schools.
Don't know much about Case Western's but no MCAT requirement is nice; med school is pretty good but Id never heard of ugrad.
Brown is an ivy league school but the program isnt great. The med school isnt good and while the attractiveness of the Ivy league is nice I don't think its on par with the other programs in terms of overall quality.
Don't know a thing about rochester.
USC's Bac MD is also a good program but there is an MCAT requirement. The med school is growing and while the ugrad is pretty weak, the overall experience is prolly pretty nice. With a scholarship, this program is a good option.
Personally, I am going to Northwestern's HPME. Ultimately I figured it was the best option (hence I ranked it #1...)
Obviously, any ranking has personal bias and the program that fits one person wont necessarily fit another.</p>

<p>It all depends on how much you want to be a doctor. Most of these programs are accelerated, which is good for those who want to start working ASAP and make the big bucks, but bad for those who want to learn about other things, especially during their undergraduate years (which are supposedly the most fun times in your life). I think Northwestern HPME is tops in that aspect. Personally, I chose Brown PLME over Northwestern HPME because it is so much more flexible, and its main goal is to provide an enriching, well-rounded education instead of the vocational feel of most accelerated med programs. Putting all of these programs in the same ranking list is hard because it's comparing apples and oranges. That's my take on it.</p>

<p>I'd keep PSU ahead of Rochester and Northwestern.</p>

<p>Factored into the prestige of that program is its short college stay and ability to study abroad anywhere in the world during the 2nd semester of the 2nd year.</p>