<p>sucharita: your scores are amazing. i can't believe they would even dream of wl'ing you. they can't afford that. where else did you apply? did you already get any sweet acceptances? i'm sorry f & m is mean to us. that's not cool. it's definitely cuz i didn't VISIT the darn campus.</p>
<p>Screw F&M - just received acceptance from Bates, $39K a year, talk about poetic justice!</p>
<p>i just got my letter in the mail. i was accepted and got one of the Marshall Scholar awards. </p>
<p>i know they require you to visit their campus which is really weird, but my friend applied there and they said they wouldn't even consider her application until she had an official visit.</p>
<p>sholefs860 thank you :) I've been admitted at Smith and waitlisted by Caltech- only decisions I've got so far.</p>
<p>Well, I didnt visit the campus (I'm an intl student) Also I don't think the fact that I need a practically full rie helped my case along at all :p</p>
<p>D was accepted. Does anyone know if the new House system will be implemented by Fall 2005, and in what dorm? Are they building a new dorm for this purpose? Thanks.</p>
<p>Franklin & Marshall College doesn't seem to have Common Data set info posted on their website.</p>
<p>US News lists for the class entering 2003</p>
<p>Qualified applicants placed on waiting list: 686
Applicants accepting a place on waiting list: 686
Students enrolled from waiting list: 59
Total Class Size 503
11.7 % of Class came from the wait list </p>
<p>They Seem to use the Wait List to fill the Class.
Letting them know you are still interested should be an important factor. </p>
<p>Good Luck</p>
<p>President Fry's "White Paper" makes reference to establishing a "House System"
<a href="http://senate.fandm.edu/documents/whitepaper.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://senate.fandm.edu/documents/whitepaper.pdf</a>
see page 13 for his proposals.</p>
<p>The Housing Page doesn't mention the House System being implemented any time soon for "First Year Students" (PC Term for Freshmen)
<a href="http://admission.fandm.edu/studentlife/residencehalls.asp%5B/url%5D">http://admission.fandm.edu/studentlife/residencehalls.asp</a></p>
<p>It does refer to theme houses for upper class students.
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F&M also has five off-campus residence units. Students who live together in these apartments share a particular interest or academic focus: Healthy Living House, French House, International House, West James Street Apartments, and Murray Arts House.
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<p>I'm not aware of any immediate plans to construct a new dorm to implement the house system. Some of the proposals being discussed would build on the practice fields between where the dorms are now and the Harrisburg Pike.</p>
<p>My son will graduate May 2006, so I doubt that he will be there to see this.</p>
<p>Just found a web page talking about the "Proposal for a House System at F&M" <a href="http://server1.fandm.edu/departments/ResidentialPrograms/housesystem/%5B/url%5D">http://server1.fandm.edu/departments/ResidentialPrograms/housesystem/</a></p>
<p>Interesting Reading</p>
<p>applicantmum</p>
<p>read some of your posts on the ursinus thread.</p>
<p>Want to let you know that F & M's Rochelle Performing Arts Center is up and finished. (It was under construction during our sons freshman year.)
<a href="http://admission.fandm.edu/campusartsculture/default.asp%5B/url%5D">http://admission.fandm.edu/campusartsculture/default.asp</a></p>
<p>Our son was in Vocal Groups during freshman and sophmore years.
On our visits to F&M we have always been impressed by the level of performance of the vocal, dance and acting presentations.</p>
<p>Your daughter does have a tough decision ahead, good luck where ever she decides to attend.</p>
<p>Thank you for all the info Rich73cas. I called Fand M and they were very wishy washy about when the house system would be implented. D is concerned that only 66% reside on campus. She is deciding between Ursinus, Fand M,and Muhlenberg. (received merit money at all three.) She would prefer Bates or Dickinson, but money puts them out of range. She will attend the open house for accepted students at F and M. Anyone else going?</p>
<p>applicantmum -
I was recently accepted and will be attending the open house for admitted students. I didn't know that only 66% of the student body lives on campus, but it's not too big of a concern for me since freshmen and sophomores are required to reside there.</p>
<p>what's up. I too have received my acceptance letter and will be attending F and M. Will not go to open house, though because I will be out of town. Congrats to all, and I hope all on the waitlist end up very happy.</p>
<p>Sorry to jump in at this point, but it seems like a good place.</p>
<p>F&M is one of my top schools for less $$$ (I got the $12,500 a year scholarship).</p>
<p>So, why should I go for the #120,000 cost instead of $185,000 at Amherst, Georgetown, Swarthmore, Middlebury, and Dartmouth; OR the $90,000 at rural Grinnell in Iowa (it is ranked around 16 in U.S. News instead of about 40 for F&M, I know those rankings don't mean too much, but is an indication of there relative strenghts).</p>
<p>I don't mean any offense by putting F&M less than the others (there are a bunch of schools that I'm not considering), but that is how I see it NOW. Please CONVINCE me why I should attend.</p>
<p>Thanks for the consideration, and best of luck to those waitlisted (I am at Princeton. Be happy that they are more open to more credentials, I have to figure out how to sneak them in),</p>
<p>Nickleby</p>
<p>you are right, you should go to Amherst, Georgetown, Swarthmore, Middlebury, or Dartmouth. Not just because of the rankings but because those schools have more resources to offer you.</p>
<p>Yay! I just got in off the waitlist...I am very excited. See you all in the fall.</p>
<p>Justin-</p>
<p>Excellent choice. I have a Junior there who I <em>presume</em> is studying for Finals as I type this, and will have a son arriving in your class. </p>
<p>As with any school, the campus and college experience will be what you want it to be. There are those who rag about LACs and the Greek-oriented party scene being the only game in town at many of them...my D would argue pretty persuasively that this ain't the case at F&M...it simply takes a bit of effort and outreach to find like-minded students, and then the rest is easy. The social agenda seems rich enough.</p>
<p>The new President's emphasis on a re-thought Housing system makes a lot of sense, and will be a marked improvement over what our D experienced during her Frosh (and even Soph) year. By next fall, it should be in full-swing.</p>
<p>She would also argue passionately that the faculty is by and large quite attuned with the students who want to be engaged..."Back Row Potted Plants" never get any attention anyway...at any school.</p>
<p>I estimate that the new construction should be just about over for your Junior year, which is a nice way to finish off your college years...</p>
<p>Nickelby--I'm sure you've already made your decision, but in case you have not (and for those in the future who might read this):</p>
<p>I am a rising Junior at F&M, also a Marshall Scholar (w/the $12,500 scholarship), and let me tell you, it is an amazing scholarship. Besides the fact that they practically give you a really expensive mac computer and a $3000 grant to do research, you get to be the big fish in the small pond. That's not to say that I coast by, but I am more confident for having the scholarship and have gotten more opportunities because of it. If they need students to serve on a faculty search committee, Marshall Scholars get asked first. The House Dons and Prefects wanted ideas for how to perfect the new House System--they held a dinner with Marshall Scholars to ask our opinions. </p>
<p>I know many Marshall Scholars who got into Ivy League and "pocket-ivy" schools (Dartmouth, Cornell, Middlebury, etc.) and turned them down for F&M, and are just as happy for it. Not to knock the higher-ranked schools, but many of them are known for grade inflation. F&M, on the contrary, is known for grade deflation (love it or hate it). Although you may not get the pretty name for the diploma on your wall (or to rub into the face of your classmates as you graduate this Spring...) but, between the challenging courses, excellent professor accessiblity (because we're much smaller than most ivies), and all the opportunities available because we're such a small school, you'll get a better education for it. Take your pick.. ;)</p>
<p>No matter what you choose, though, good luck wherever you end up :)
(and keep me posted)</p>
<p>sternie15 - Obviously your last post wasn't directed at me, but I'd like to thank you for the information, anyway. :)</p>
<p>I used to live in Lancaster, and I'll be going back to visit friends this summer... so I'm hoping to visit F&M at that time.</p>
<p>I also had a few questions, and if you're able to answer any of them I would be appreciative. :)
How many of the scholarships are typically awarded each year? What kind of stats are they looking for in applicants to be considered for the scholarship? Do they require a separate application for the scholarship, or do they look at the one for college admission? And is F&M good with financial aid? </p>
<p>Thanks again. :)</p>
<p>hey sil! </p>
<p>to answer your questions (sorry, i realize you posted that a long time ago) </p>
<p>-there's no separate application for scholarships (at least there wasn't when i applied....i expected that i got in when i saw the large envelope, but i was really surprised by all the money they promised me inside!).</p>
<p>-i can't tell you exactly what they're looking for in scholarship candidates, because, well, i don't know myself since i don't work in admissions. however, a few of my friends are tourguides, and although they don't sit in on the admissions committee either, they have a closer relationship with the people that do. from talking to them, i get the sense there's no cut-and-dry criteria or cutoffs for scholarships, just as there aren't for admission either. scholarship winners are usually those who are towards the top of the applicant pool academically and have strong assets that will enhance the college community. (gosh, i sound like a viewbook, sorry.) basically, from the admissions office standpoint, if you're going to make their applicant pool more competitive for the following year and they think you actually might come but that they might lose you to a rival school, they'll give you a scholarship to "help" your decision ;)</p>
<p>-i believe there are about 40-50 marshall scholarships awarded to each pool of applicants (i think they admit about 1000 to fill a freshman class of 500ish). there are also other scholarships awarded, such as music/fine arts scholarships, smaller merit based scholarships (my roommate was a "presidential scholar," i believe), a few scholarships awarded to ethnic minorities, and a few others that i can't think of off the top of my head.</p>
<p>-as far as financial aid goes, i know that they do their best to fill the need that the fafsa says you have. i can't speak from personal experiences because i didn't apply for financial aid, but i know a few of my friends have financial aid packages and i haven't heard too many complaints. </p>
<p>okay, i think i answered all your questions this time. if you have any other questions about scholarships, admissions, campus life or ANYTHING (related to f&m or not) please keep 'em coming and i'll do my best to answer them.</p>
<p>sternie- thanks so much for your reply!</p>
<p>I love Lancaster... and I'm thinking more and more about at least applying to F&M...</p>
<p>My dad's biggest concern is about career placement. He says he doesn't think F&M has much of a name or the ability to get you very far... but I read about hundreds of companies recruiting on campus and the fact that 90+% of applicants to law schools get into one of their top choices... Plus the college is ranked around number 27 or 30 by US News and World Report on the list of top LACs in the nation.</p>
<p>I don't know what year you're in at F&M... but does it seem like people are generally able to do well/go where they want to go after graduation?</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>(I'll be visiting F&M at the end of the month, by the way!) :)</p>
<p>I know it probably seems like F&M is not a big name and seemingly random sounding, especially when you talk to people about where you're applying (I got a lot of "Franklin & WHO? where is that?"). However, F&M is extremely extremely extremely (I can't stress that enough) well-known where it counts--in grad school admissions offices. What they don't tell you in all the college viewbooks is that F&M has a reputation for grade deflation. Most of my friends at other LACs like Oberlin complain that the hardest part about it is getting in and that their profs don't push them hard enough. At F&M you will work your tail off and get a B. </p>
<p>So right now you're probably thinking either "that sounds like it really sucks" or "she didn't really answer my question." (don't worry...I'm gettin' there). Because of the grade deflation and how hard your profs will push you at F&M, you get a much better education. Grad school admissions counselors know this. Many students go on to get a Masters or PhD from Ivy League schools. There are rumors that people with even really low GPAs (read: 2.5ish) have gotten into Harvard. Med school and law school applicants from F&M do very well. Although I don't know a large number of alum since I've only just finished my sophomore year, those I do know have all gotten into very good graduate programs if grad school was their goal. </p>
<p>For those who don't want more schooling right after college, F&M has a surprisingly large (and helpful) alumni base, given it's size. F&M alum are always eager to help students get jobs with their reputable companies and organizations. These alumnae are even helpful before you graduate in getting summer internships which, besides looking good on a resume, often turn into full-time careers after graduation. </p>
<p>I hope that helps. One last word of advice for you (and your dad): don't just apply to a fancy name. Whether it be F&M or another school, go to a college that's a good fit academically, socially and otherwise. You have to spend 4 years there and you should enjoy them.</p>