<p>Hi, I’m coming back to report how S did first semester. He is a freshman in engineering at a top 20 school. Had 5 classes + lab (physics, calc, 2 comp science classes, and economics). 3 B+s and 2 Bs for a 3.2. He says he pulled up grades after first midterms when he realized how hard he had to work. Plans to do better next semester. Well, don’t we all. But I think this is a good start; I’m hoping to see his grades improve a little and I’ll take this.</p>
<p>pittpride, congratulations. Engineering/science/math courses tend to grad harder, so if your S did that well and knows how to do it better going forward, things are going well.</p>
<p>ShawD continued with here second semester at her new school and had all As. I believe that she a) is much more engaged because some of her courses are practical (I need to know this because I might have a patient with a serious burn when I’m a nurse); b) has learned a bit about how to manage her work; c) likes the reward of being at the top of the class (her brother was always too tough to compete with when she was in HS); and d) is in a school where she is likely to be way above the 75th percentile HS grades/SATs so she’s likely brighter than most of the kids. She manages her Ritalin supply fairly carefully and would be highly stressed if she didn’t have it. She’s also got one job working at a gourmet vegetarian food truck and also tutors in biology and anatomy/physiology. I’m extremely proud of her as she never performed liked this in HS and wouldn’t have been able to juggle all the things she’s juggling now. Her brain is clearly maturing. There is light at the end of the tunnel.</p>
<p>ShawSon continues to outperform. He’s in his senior year. He doesn’t have grades but took an art class P/F and a couple of independent study courses. For one course, he was cross-registered at a nearby school and after reviewing his project, the professor asked if kids at ShawSon’s school could get A+s. And for the other, he turned in an 88 page paper, which had original models and experiments in it. He takes Adderall when working on big projects but doesn’t use it for exams as he thinks it makes him uncreative.</p>
<p>Congrats Shawbridge! That is wonderful! My S has been on meds for ADD since age 7. He takes vyvanse, used to take concerta. I was very worried about how he’d manage the vyvanse, but I guess he’s doing ok. Honestly I was worried that he’d get up and get to his classes, turn in assignments, but he has managed and I am proud of him. I think it helps that he is interested in his classes too and he tells me it is motivating that the other kids work very hard.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your stories. I am the mom of two wonderful ADHD-inattentive children. Through my childrens journey I have realized I too have ADHD-Inattetive and it explains why my first semester at college was a disaster. In the 1970-80’s when I was in school no one was looking for this problem I remember going to the school speech therapist many times but they couldn’t figure out what was wrong. I was often labeled as lazy by teachers…“if she would just apply herself”. I was also bright and questioning so I can see the problem the teachers had. I didn’t have parents like those on this board to help me understand what I was dealing with, my dad was an educator and he didn’t understand! I failed out my first semester and had to work hard not to be kick out of the University. I got my grades up in two more semesters and then left for another state and big city life. Took years off school and re-entered college at 25 years old (same school moved home with parents) then I met my husband and still never finished school…now at almost 50 I’m heading back! </p>
<p>I’m just trying to say thank you to all the parents and college students who have shared their stories. I have felt alone in my college failure, surrounded by family and friends who have finished in the normal time. Your stories have helped me and encouraged me that I am doing the right thing helping my children especially my son who is a Jr in HS, smart and involved hoping to go to med school. With his ADHD the college years will be a challenge but if I follow the advice on this thread I think my son and I have a chance. So glad to know we aren’t alone!</p>
<p>happimom, I wish you the best of luck. With ADHD kids, the parents and in some cases the high school/tutors can give kids a lot of support for a deficit in Executive Functioning (e.g., planning, etc.). When the kids go to college, either the college (ShawD had a peer tutor at her first school) or you (we hired someone as a coach for ShawSon) can work with them effectively on planning their work. Both kids now do that well but would have had much more difficulty as freshman without some transition help.</p>
<p>Shawbridge, how did you find your coach for your son freshman year? Was it someone affiliated with the school, or an outside person? Was it mostly over the phone? Thanks much.</p>
<p>Maystarmom, the same person who coached him (and did lots of other stuff) in HS worked with him over the phone. She’s fabulous at working with gifted kids with LDs.
She’s ShawWife’s cousin and she and ShawSon have a very close bond, but in addition to ShawSon, she works with a small number of other gifted kids with LDs. What is nice is that she is very intuitive about what works for each kid’s cognitive style. </p>
<p>At ShawSon’s school, lots of things get put into email by profs. So, in addition to calls, at ShawSon’s request, she checked his emails for things and created a Google tasks task list with, and sometimes used reminders by text. She had to judge what frequency of reminders would be attended to (too high a frequency and they all get ignored). She also recorded things electronically for him at times. When ShawSon has an executive assistant, he should try to hire her (though she would probably not take the job).</p>
<p>If you don’t have a fabulous relative like Shaw, there are coaching associations for ADHD that can help. That’s how we found ours, who broke the stalemate between our DD and me. I have ADHD too, but have a fabulous assistant, a wonderful business partner, and a tolerant husband. Between the three of them and learned compensations, I do great…most of the time I tried to teach our DD some of my compensations, but in spite of the fact that I am a special educator by profession and have a lifetime of experience, I (of course) know NOTHING. The coach was in a similar position - we joked that we should simply barter, where I would help her son and she would help my daughter. FYI, DD is doing EXTREMELY well now as a sophomore in college. I use the analogy of a ladder with her - the coach, teachers, and I banged her over the head with the “rungs” when she was in high school, but it took her until college for her to be ready to assemble them into an effective ladder. </p>
<p>i believe I found mine through adhd coach institute, which I found through additude magazine. Both of these have websites - I just can’t link them here.</p>
<p>Maystarmom, I second shoot4moon’s suggestion. At ShawD’s first school, they had peer counselors’s that one could request if one had accommodations for a disability (ShawD had extra time on tests). The peer counselor was an older student in the same program. He met with her weekly and not only helped with organization but told her about things that would be coming up. But, I think you could get someone really skilled who could do the work over the phone with text / email.</p>
<p>Shoot4moon, I think the hardest time for our kids will be in entry-level jobs where they won’t have the support that you now have (I typically have a cracker-jack executive assistant who helps with all aspects of life; the current one is unfortunately subpar).</p>
<p>For those who have experience with ADD coaching, do you have any insights on whether coaching should be face-to-face, or would phone or Skype be OK? Our S has ADD, and some of the colleges we are looking at are in small towns where they may not be trained coaches (We did check the websites suggested by shoot4moon, and didn’t find any nearby these towns)</p>
<p>We’ve seen both be helpful, but the caveat on distance is that the person who did it by phone/online a) had a long relationship with ShawSon; b) scanned emails to make sure deadlines were not missed; and c) used Google tasks and Google calendar to set alerts.</p>
<p>radeonx1300, looking at the test results you posted, I think you could consider any number of majors! In fact I am surprised you have an ADD diagnosis, although maybe it was based on other factors. Our S who has predominantly inattentive ADD has comprehension and reasoning scores similar to yours … but working memory of only 91 and processing speed of only 78!</p>
<p>D diagnosed ADHD-inattentive in 7th grade with 2 parents who had trouble accepting the diagnosis (Dad still doesn’t accept it.) D did reasonably well in high school with highly inconsistent performance (3.1 freshman year, 3.9 junior year, flunked a course senior year but had mitigating circumstances which kept her college acceptance in place; ended up with a 3.4 overall.) D was tested again during the summer before her senior year (when Mom finally accepted the diagnosis).</p>
<p>GPA after first semester: 3.9. </p>
<p>Her ADHD is mild and she has always been very self-aware. I think that helps her figure out compensations, but she does get very frustrated sometimes. She doesn’t use medication, and she has so far refused to use campus services, but she’s aware that they’re there. She has been very good at creating relationships with her professors and self-advocating as needed. </p>
<p>2nd story: a colleague’s daughter
Apparently the kid was really well-intentioned, superb at making friends, but with terrible judgement. There were a number of incidents during high school: walked out of a class without explanation because she got a text that a friend was suicidal; let herself into a friend’s house on a weekend when the family wasn’t home (was planning to spend the night and wash sheets/dishes afterwards) and got arrested when a neighbor noticed activity. Attended 2 years of community college and was rather lackadaisical until the 2nd year when something just clicked for her. She recognized that her grades were important, that her CC had an agreement for transfer credit to a nearby 4-year school, and she transferred and completed her 4-year degree in business. She landed a job in sales and was soon pulling in a 6-figure salary.</p>
<p>Thank you to all of the posters, but I wanted to know whether there are any more current or active boards on parenting ADHD kids going to college or in college. The tips/anecdotes discussed here were phenomenally helpful. DD is a high school junior with ADHD combined type, better than avg iq, alright SATs , low gpa, has to work very hard at anything written. Looking almost exclusively at LACs. Sounds like ultimately, the kids have to take some initiative or be coached to do so freshman year. DD has had some years when she’s insisted on no tutuors so she ‘can do it on my own.’ Other times, she’s had tutors. I also have some questions about disclosure. Does she discuss it in interviews or college visits? Do we wait until she’s accepted? It sounds like colleges are all over the place in terms of de facto accomodation implementation.</p>
<p>Colleges vary tremendously in their levels of disability support so it’s important to make researching that part of the search process. In our experience we usually set up an appointment with someone in the disability office while we were visiting the college. We ended up disclosing for almost all applications but our sense was that if we hadn’t, no one was keeping track of that fact in the admissions office anyway. </p>
<p>Reviving this thread to help DD who is on the opposite side of this experience and has called me several times to share her worry. Her ROOMMATE has ADD/ADHD, presumably the inattentive kind, and has exhibited the behavior described up thread: Not getting up by the alarm, skipping class, missing tests, staying up all night, not attending group project meetings, etc. She also doesn’t clean up her food (so it smells) and I hope by now that she has changed her linens at least once. DD really likes the girl and doesn’t want her to flunk out. DD, the old soul, has told her roomie that she needs to get her act together, but I reminded DD that such lectures tend to fall on deaf ears.</p>
<p>The girl seems to do better academically when she takes her meds, but they don’t seem to be the full answer. From overhearing their phone conversations, DD believes the girl’s parents think she is coping better than she is. I don’t think it is good for either girl for DD to be a helicopter roommate as she may just be delaying the roomie’s crash. [Gosh, did DD pick up her nagging habits from moi?] But I think it would be fine for DD to help her roommate navigate the counseling center, tutoring center, etc. at their LAC when and if the roommate is ready wants help and/or moral support.</p>
<p>What do y’all think? DD talked about wanting to do a peer intervention. Since I doubt that substance abuse is the issue here, but rather the challenges of ADHD, to my thinking an intervention would not help. </p>
<p>CC-your DS sounds like an awesome young adult. Good for her for caring so much. That said, she needs to be careful not to take on her roommate’s issues as her own. She can encourage her to go to the disability services office at school and the student counseling center to get connected with support networks there. She can even offer to go with the roommate the first time to help her to make the connection. It really is a challenge for many of these LD/ADHD kids but at the end of the day, they have to learn to take responsibility for themselves and for their lives.</p>