<p>Everyone knows about Harvard, but less have discovered Dartmouth. Does this change the applicant pool? For instance is it stronger because only smarter more motivated people know about it? Or does everyone know about it because it's an ivy? This would put that 17% admit rate (11 for transfers) in context. Thoughts???</p>
<p>^don't mean to be offensive, but just because you think Dartmouth isn't well known, doesn't mean it is so. But i think Dartmouth is well known, and the competition to get in will be just as fierce as other great schools.</p>
<p>say dartmouth to a random educated person on the street, they probably have heard of it. Its an ivy...meaning lots of motivated people even from other countries have heard of it. Also, I am sure that only very motivated and strong applicants apply to harvard.</p>
<p>to some sense enzo is right, but mind you, only motivated and strong applicants apply to Dartmouth too.</p>
<p>I meant that only strong and motivated applicants apply to all of the top schools. Also, most people know of the top schools as well.</p>
<p>disregard my earlier post if it doesnt make too much sense. I dont know what I was on when I wrote it...</p>
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<p>In context? Are you implying that a 17% admission rate is too high? Do you have some sort of objective way of figuring out which admission rates stand by themselves and which need placement into context?</p>
<p>Seriously, do we need to go through this every year? I don't think that Dartmouth or anyone else needs to justify something silly like an admit rate...</p>
<p>whoah people need to chill-- maybe some xanax for ole xanatos. My question was more along the lines of is dartmouth admissions even more daunting because it doesn't get the random apps places like columbia do (ie some people apply only because it's in NYC), basically is the applicant pool different? If you think this is stupid don't waste your time responding and just led the thread fade...</p>
<p>p.s. even the OC knows its durn hard to get in...</p>
<p>I'm sorry after you see the same thing over and over it gets pretty sickening...plus I'm really tired right now which puts me in an irritable mood (I was up til 6 at my frat last night). But actually after you rephrased your question it sounds to me like a good one.</p>
<p>I think that on the one hand you're definitely going to get some overlap between Dartmouth and the other Ivies. But you're right, a lot of people that apply here do do it because they've researched the school and really think it is a good fit for them in terms of college life and also academically, so there probably are less people that apply with little or no chance of getting in, just to be able to say it later in life (which isn't to say that's the reason that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton have rates around 10%, they are really that ultracompetitive), as opposed to just going for the name, probably more so than at schools like Harvard or Yale. On the other hand, you have to consider that lower yield is going to make Dartmouth accept more people to maintain the class sizes we want, so there are a lot of counterbalancing issues.</p>
<p>Ughh I think that paragraph was chock full of run-on sentences. Yay stream of consciousness.</p>
<p>I believe that it would be slightly higher difficulty due to the fact that the people that apply have done their homework, and those people are generally more qualified.</p>
<p>That is not always true. I know a kid that has built his life around being admitted to MIT but is clueless when I say I want to go to Dartmouth.
The majority of people I have talked to comparing where we allpied have no idea about Dartmouth. I really don't care having spent a month there for debate; I know it is the most beautiful place that I have ever enjoyed being.</p>
<p>In my home country, those incompetent applicants will all apply for Harvard and Yale. For Dartmouth, the applicant pool is really strong in terms of academic achievement and family background(actually there are more students applying to Dart than Yale by now.) The admission rate surely reflects Harvard's strength, but not so much as revealed by data.</p>
<p>i feel like unqualified kids will take a shot at harvard because of the name value and the "you never know" concept. I bet harvard beats out most schools for unqualified applicants. </p>
<p>I feel like the Dartmouth pool is probably of equal strength to HYP, but more concentrated in the middle. (less completely unqualified kids, less "overqualified" (if that makes sense) kids)</p>