<p>if michigan is such a prestigious school why does it accept so many applicant (55-60%)</p>
<p>because michigan is HUGE</p>
<p>They could run a lower accept rate, but then, who would fill all those lecture hall seats (and pay all that tuition)</p>
<p>it's also because it's a state school.. i think</p>
<p>Yeah, i don't understand how it's ranked better than ucla when it seems like ucla is so much harder to get into.</p>
<p>It's ranked higher than ucla because of its academic programs. Rankings arent based only on selectivity. Michigan has numerous programs in the top 10. Besides, UCLA is only ranked like 1 spot below michigan, that makes the difference in rank almost immaterial. Most people would consider michigan and ucla pretty equal schools.</p>
<p>You ask a good question. The reason Michigan is ranked #22 and not #8 or #12 or whatever according to the USNWR is precisely because it is not as selective as other top universities. From an academic quality and reputation point of view, Michigan is one of the nation's top 10 or top 15 universities, but its selectivity, along with a couple of other factors, knocks it down a couple of spots. Same thing goes for the University of Chicago. Chicago would also be ranked int he top 10 if it weren't for its selectivity (40%-45% accepted).</p>
<p>But one must not confuse selectivity with quality of the student body. The Michigan student body is extremely gifted given its size. The top two-thirds/threequarters of Michigan's student body is as good as the student body of any very selective private university. The bottom third to a quarter is not quite as strong, but many of those students are usually athletes or students in the non-traditional programs, such as Kinesiology or Nursing. So there really is not downside to the lack of selectivity. I would not worry about selectivity.</p>
<p>so when you get here...kick an in-stater, nursing student, or kines student in the face for lowering your school's rank :p</p>
<p>Selectivity is about both quality and sheer numbers. In another thread someone pointed out that U-Chicago isn't all that "selective" percentage-wise, but no one would question that it's an excellent school and you've got to be smart to make it there. But it's something of a niche school, so they don't get loads of apps. It's a self-selective bunch. The apps they get are generally very good ones, and more than enough to enroll a stellar class, so that's what matters. You don't have to deny a lot of people to be a good school, as long as the ones you admit are of good quality. Ergo, two schools can have similar selectivity ratios but very different student profiles, and vice versa. Which is why you should interpret selectivity carefully.</p>
<p>Yield is also a factor. U-M's yield on nonresidents is way lower than for residents. That's partly due to cost, and partly due to the fact that admissable nonresidents are highly qualified and have other good choices. So to enroll the desired number of nonresidents, Michigan has to admit a lot of them. If you want 10 nonresidents, you'll extend offers of admission to, say, 30 of them. If you want 10 residents, you extend offers of admission to 17 of them. If Michigan decided to only enroll in-staters, it would have to admit far fewer students overall. Its selectivity ratio would go up, but its quality profile would go down. Which is yet another example of why the number can be misleading.</p>
<p>As a side note, Nursing and Kines have gotten a lot more selective this year.</p>
<p>Do you want know what I hate the most about this forum? It's when everyone makes it seem like the in-staters accepted to Michigan are dumber than the out-of-staters. We're not! I know of several people in past years who were deferred from Michigan with similiar stats to those that were deferred from out of state (They don't pity us). Our only advantages are that the cost for us to attend the school is a lot less than out-of-staters and the fact that they can admit a higher percentage of us. Many of the people (including me) that I know that are admitted for next year from my class have GPAs hovering around a 4.0 UW GPA and do a ton of ec's.</p>
<p>Easy there--I'm an in-stater from good ole' Flint going into my Junior year.</p>
<p>I just think I can fend off an attack from an out-of-stater CC'er if one should happen to try to kick me in the face ;)</p>
<p>All joking aside, it is easier to get in to Michigan from Michigan -- open and shut case.</p>
<p>Maise&Blue - I know it's easier because there are more spots for us to get, but it's annoying when people here act like if you're an in-stater, you're scum or there's some sort of flaw with you (which slightly gets to me since I am an in-stater and am a part of that group).</p>
<p>I'm glad you can fend off a kicking attack. Hey, if I go there, could you protect me from the out-of-staters so that they won't come try to get me for being an in-stater (I'm weak and am unfamiliar with the matial arts)? ;)</p>
<p>So you're from Flint? You're basically from the oppossite side of the southern part of the state from where I'm at now. I'm in the southwest Michigan area.</p>
<p>One of the GOOGLE Co-founder is UMich alumni and he is in-stater.</p>
<p>Hi reeses414, SE MI is where I'm at too. (troy specifically.)</p>
<p>Hi tetrahedr0n!</p>
<p>Troy has the best mall... We've made the trip over there a few times to go shopping.</p>
<p>Since we are on the topic of Troy...what is wrong with you people down there? You got such things as exit 69 that takes you to Big Beaver road? What the!!! But, as Reeses aptly pointed out, you do have a very nice mall.</p>
<p>Now I seriously thought you were too mature to say that. I'd expect that of a 13 yr old.</p>
<p>Boysmom, I was merely joking. I hope you did not take offense. I am not always going to be serious and formal. There is a goofy and immature side to me too.</p>
<p>Yeah, a very nice mall I can never actually shop at!</p>
<p>isn't there a nice mall in ann arbor called the briarwood or something.</p>
<p>Briarwood is a functional Mall. I wouldn't call it "great" or "gorgeous", but it is a good mall to be sure.</p>