Admissions offers - policy on disciplinary action for high school protest?

NACAC, the national college counseling site, now has 16 pages of colleges which have announced that they stand with the protesting students

The MIT blog also contains links to similar statements by the following schools:

WPI
UMass-Amherst
Smith
Trinity College
DePaul
CalTech
Tulane
Haverford
USC
Bennington
Univ. of New England
Lebanon Valley College
Lindenwood
Dartmouth
Tufts
Harvey Mudd
Mt Holyoke
BU
Bowdoin
UWashington
Suffolk
Yale
Wesleyan
Brown
Northwestern
GMU
Oberlin
Clark
Plymouth State
Bates
Lehigh
Williams
George Washington
Northeastern
Whitman college
UConn
UCLA
Johns Hopkins
Brandeis
UVA
Lawrence University

To get to these go through @skieurope’s MIT link in #15 and look in the comments section.

Here is the link to Yale’s statement. https://admissions.yale.edu/bulldogs-blogs/hannah/2018/02/23/support-student-protests

The schools cover the spectrum from tech school (MIT, WPI) to liberal arts colleges (Bowdoin, Williams), from public (Plymouth State, UVA) to private, from highly selective to very moderately selective, from known for leaning liberal (Oberlin, Wesleyan) to known for leaning conservative (Lebanon Valley, GMU).

Dartmouth tweeted:

“Dartmouth supports active citizenship and applauds students’ expression of their beliefs. Participation in peaceful protest in no way jeopardizes your admission to Dartmouth, even if you are disciplined or suspended. Speak your truth.”

From College of the Holy Cross Admissions:

“Holy Cross seeks to build a community marked by freedom, mutual respect and civility” We support students who stand up for their beliefs, and applicants who participate in peaceful protests will not be jeopardized by disciplinary action.

Are those schools going to forgive a D or an F if the student fails a class because of a three day suspension (missing work during that suspension)? Will the sports coach make offers to students who had to miss a game or two because of a suspension? At my kids’ school, if you weren’t in school you couldn’t do EC’s, so games, theater, MUN, etc would all be forfeited.

It’s a choice the student would have to make. I do think the schools and thee students would be better off having a united stance, protests IN school, or organized by the students with school approval.

Those aren’t choices that are on the table though.
No senior is going to fail a class because they missed a test. If they get an F they get an F on the test but they wouldn’t fail the class.
NLIs will already have been sent out in most cases.
Only one of the walkout days is a school day (there’s also one class period for the minutes of silence and a Saturday March: legally schools
aren’t allowed to punish students for these: A skipped period by a senior Spring semester would typically result in… nothing, and schools aren’t allowed to treat a walkout for a cause differently than a walkout for a fun ‘senior day’. As for Saturday’s, schools have no juridiction over them.)
The April date will also be well past college decisions.

In short, don’t worry and you shouldn’t worry about college consequences for your kids.

I believe that this is a generation-defining moment so probably lots of college-going kids will be there. It’s not often that kids feel that not only are they part of history, but they’re making it.

Add Emory to this list. From their admissions blog:
Here in the Office of Admission, we respect the action of students who engage in peaceful protest, particularly on an issue like gun violence.

Emory will not rescind the offer of admission to students because they engage in peaceful protest, nor will such protest action negatively affect future admission decision making for students involved.

The ACLU just sent all its members an email. They are having an online training on student protest rights on March 1st at 8 p.m. ET. Go to go.peoplepower.org for details if interested.

You cannot be suspended for participating in a walkout.

According to the ACLU, your school cannot punish you more harshly for protesting then they would if you were missing class for another reason. The walkout on the 14th is literally 17 minutes long–these schools need to chill out in my opinion. No school suspends someone for skipping class, or for missing 17 minutes of a class. Honestly, at my school no one really gets punished for skipping class period. If they punish me for participating in this walkout then I’ll just ask them why they don’t punish the kids who skip class every single day to vape in the bathroom…

Admission officers from around the country discussed this and started tweeting support for peaceful protests last Wednesday, February 21.

At this point, it might be easier to create a list of schools that WOULD revoke admission offers of students who participate in protests. That is probably a much smaller list. :slight_smile:

@sciencenerd123 … Not true. Kids in my school do not skip class to vape in the bathroom-- that vape would get them expelled. In my school, cutting a class will lead to suspension,

Your school is not my school. Kids in my school who cut class, regardless of the reason, will face disciplinary action.

Then again, we’re just finishing a week off. There was plenty of time to make their voices heard.

@bjkmom I never said my school was your school. And at my school, a lot of the time people get away with skipping class (though I never have). In general, students do face disciplinary action for cutting class, but they are not suspended. That’s the point that I was making.

@bjkmom Under normal circumstances, no school is going to suspend a student for missing 17 minutes of class. They can’t punish you more harshly because you’re protesting. Plus, then they’d have to suspend quite a few kids.

And again, my comment was with regards to MY school. Look up your school’s student handbook and see the typical punishment for skipping class. They can’t punish you more harshly than that.

Skipping class equals suspension. Period.

Safety in numbers. It could be interesting to see a high school actually suspend hundreds of students and watch the fallout from that. Sounds like an administrator’s worst nightmare.

@bjkmom OK, for you it does. But your school rules do not apply to other schools. Schools are different. So for you, if a student at your school were to skip class to protest then they would be suspended, just like they would be in any other case. Would that be different or the same if they skipped 17 minutes?

According to my student handbook, unexcused absence or unexcused tardy warrants a teacher detention for the first attempt. For the second it is an office detention. It is not until the third offence that a student is suspended. That’s my school. You’re making the mistake of confusing your school with everyone else’s, and assuming that my statements apply to you. Students should look up the policy at their school and know that that they cannot be punished more severely than that. For example, my school cannot suspend me for participating in this walkout because that is a more severe punishment than what the student handbook says, and they cannot give me a more severe punishment because they don’t agree with my protest. See what I’m saying?

Most schools have administrator discretion built into their system to take context into account. In this case, I think it quite likely that discretion will be exercised in favor of supporting civic engagement.

I’m joining the walkout that is wholehearted supported by my D’s school. Pretty certain no one will get detention nor do I care if mine does. This is about the best civics lesson one could ask for.