<p>I don’t think you can tell if a school is a good fit based on what you see at a revisit- will there be celebrities and fancy luncheons every day if you choose to attend? Most likley not. I think that’s exeter’s philosophy- not to hard sell. I just think they take it SO seriously they end up going too far the other way and underrepresenting the close bonds their students have with each other.</p>
<p>Hyeonhoy, this is the last I’m going to post on this subject because it’s just stale and you’re just being stubborn. Admitting 250 assumes an 80% yield. That’s still too high. Last year, Deerfield experienced a 67% yield. A school does not jump from 67 to 80 in one year. The school with the highest yield this year was Andover with a percentage of 78.</p>
<p>And as for Bill, he’s shown his fair share of unsportsmanlike conduct. I still would have liked to have come to revisits, considering the marketing that Andover apparently exercised. I don’t play football, but it would have been awesome to meet Bill Belichick (regardless of his little tantrums). At least I’ll actually be there next time Andover ships him in for revisits.</p>
<p>Hyeonhoy,
Those were the numbers that were released internally to the school. I’m pretty sure they’re a correct representation of where DA stood this year in terms of admission. The numbers are a great reflection on the school and the yield was higher than ever before with incoming first-year girls yielding at 80%+.</p>
<p>That’s what I was wondering - why were Hyeonhoy and Tom arguing over something that sounded like published data. You probably should’ve given the source of the data in the first place, making it more convincing. :)</p>
<p>Don’t know the stats yet for this year at Thacher. Last couple of years 20% or fewer applicants were admitted and the yield rate was >80%. I’m not positive about this, but that’s either the highest among the top boarding schools, or among the very highest. Just thought I’d chime up on behalf of the left coast!</p>
<p>I believe Thacher will have an excellent yield again this year, but not just because it is a great school. I think its location plays a role as well. The only true competition it has in that area is probably Cate. While the school attracts students from the east, most of the applicants are “west coasters”. It’s harder for NE schools to achieve a high yield as there are so many compeitions close by.</p>
<p>My mommy used to work in admissions at Cate =)</p>
<p>Thacher has a much more self selected applicant pool, unlike people (such as myself and many others) who applied to a bounty of NE schools…</p>
<p>If you mean by “self selected applicant pool” that the kids who apply really want to go there because it represents a different sort of boarding school experience, then you’re right, it’s definitely self-selected. It provides a materially different experience than you would find at a classic NE boarding school; I’m not saying a better experience, but a different one – and not solely driven by geography. </p>
<p>More than 40% of Thacher’s kids come from states and countries other than California. And keep in mind that California’s population of 36 million provides no small amount of competition for the handful of great CA boarding schools. However, it’s mostly East Coast Schools that provide Thacher’s greatest applicant overlap: Exeter, Andover, Deerfield, Groton, SPS and Cate specifically.</p>
<p>Exactly. I am not saying it is any worse than traditional boarding schools in NE.</p>
<p>Most of the people are speculating on some inofficial data. So whatever the data they talk about now may be true or may be not true. So we’d better wait until official and correct data are published. We don’t have to hurry in collecting the official and accurate data. Actually we should wait. Otherwise we may convey wrong info to the students who are preparing for 2010 applications. I strongly suggest that we should be patient and we should wait!</p>
<p>From the SPS website:</p>
<p>St. Paul’s School recorded all-time highs in three categories during the recent admissions cycle – 4,006 inquiries, 1,226 applications, and a yield of 71 percent, reaffirming the School as a top choice for high school-bound students.</p>
<p>Admittance to St. Paul’s School remained highly selective with a 19 percent admit rate. Jada Hebra, director of admissions, reported that 167 new students – 79 boys and 88 girls – have elected to enroll in the fall. The students hail from 25 states and 10 countries. </p>
<p>Included in the enrollment numbers are 60 new students of color – 43 from the United States and 17 from foreign countries. Thirty-one percent of the new students have an alumni or sibling relationship with the School. </p>
<p>Among the new students are 106 new Third Formers, 52 new Fourth Formers, and nine new Fifth Formers.</p>
<p>Also of note is that 35 percent of new students will receive some form of tuition assistance during the 2009-10 academic year. While financial aid awards to new students were impacted by aid offered to returning students whose families had not previously qualified for financial assistance, the economy did not impact the level of interest or the rate of enrollment at the School. Despite a down economy worldwide, Hebra said the School remains in the enviable position of having far more applicants than slots to fill. </p>
<p>“In tough economic times, people tend to gravitate toward institutions they perceive as stable,” she said. “St. Paul’s is one of those institutions.”</p>
<p>Another notable in this year’s process is the high yield within specialty areas of School life, including high-impact athletes and musicians. Hebra credited the April revisit days with helping some students make their enrollment decisions.</p>
<p>“Revisits were a huge success,” she said. “Students and faculty stepped up. They were unbelievably welcoming and enthusiastic.”</p>
<p>Acceptance rates:
Deerfield (16%, 9th grade 13.5%!)
Andover (16.6%)
SPS (19%)
Exeter (19.8%)</p>
<p>Yield:
Andover (78%)
SPS (71%)
Deerfield (65%)
Exeter (64%)</p>
<p>FA for newly admitted:
Andover (35%)
SPS (35%)
Deerfield (30%)
Exeter (27%)</p>
<p>Actual Yield numbers (hot off the presses):
Andover 78%
SPS 73%
Deerfield 67%
Exeter 64%
Choate 62%
Lawrenceville 57%
Hill School 56%
Hotchkiss 56%
Taft 50%
Loomis-Chafee 37%</p>
<p>very surprised at hotchkiss</p>
<p>I think that the Hotchkiss yield was lower this year because the FA offers were lower than prior years. As I recall, about 27% of the students accepted at Hotchkiss this year were offered FA. It is my understanding that this figure has been running around 36% for the past few years. (Please feel free to correct these numbers here, if anyone has better info.) As Exeter offered less FA this year and, in turn, had a lower yield, it seems that Hotchkiss has followed suit.</p>
<p>Does the high yield numbers for Andover and SPS suggest that there is not a lot of overlap in admitted students between the schools? Just wondering because I think a lot of students on this board were accepted to SPS and waitlisted/rejected at Andover and Exeter.</p>
<p>Vice Versa</p>
<p>I’m not sure there’s any specific reasoning to this…other than the obvious. A lot of people who got into Andover and SPS wanted to go and chose those schools over others, and the same for the rest of the list…just not as many. Just because this board didn’t have much overlapping (especially between Exeter and SPS) doesn’t really tell the whole story.</p>
<p>I don’t see much reasoning here other than the blatantly obvious. I’m sure there were many cross admits as these are the top schools and accept the top students.</p>
<p>True, no one who has expressed an opinion about the dips this year in yields at some BS’s knows for sure why these yields dropped at either Exeter or Hotchkiss, although it does appear that less FA availability this year at each school was a contributing factor to this drop, if not the main factor, based on all of the information I have seen on CC recently or received from these schools. Of course, such an opinion is always subject to change as more information rolls in. Until then, less FA availablity seems to be the best explantion, albeit not the only explanation, for the drop in yields this year at these two superlative schools.</p>
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<p>Lol you say neither of us knows the cause of these yields…and that’s all you could come up with? Seriously? haha. Get over yourself. Exeter has a way bigger endowment than Deerfield, SPS, and a bigger one than Andover, you know just btw. If all those schools gave more FA than Exeter (which I doubt) it’s just a shame, but that’s not an explanation. There’s not always an explanation for everything, these are the numbers. </p>
<p>It’s one thing for Andover to give more, a whole other thing for 2 mid-sized schools with a much smaller endowment to give much FA. You have to come up with a better theory than that. I’m not sure about Hotchkiss, but hey…56% of the kids decided to go. Not a bad number</p>