<p>emdee’s right, there couldn’t be too much overlap between admissions for the high yield schools or the numbers would be lower. As an extreme, if all students were accepted to SPS and Andover, then their yields together would have to total not more than 100%.</p>
<p>Is that not he case every year though? The statement seemed kind of redundant to me. I don’t see what this “theory”, if you could call it that is trying to prove…I mean obviously if there are many high yields then there was less overlapping due to the number of high yields. Doesn’t explain why SPS and Andover have the top 2 and Hotchkiss nad Exeter doesn’t. If thats what you’re trying to prove…I don’t really know what the point is here</p>
<p>I think the issue of overlap in acceptances is potentially interesting information for students applying in the future. It could mean that students find Andover and SPS, for example, so different that they don’t apply to both. Or that the schools are looking for very different students and there are not a lot of acceptances to both. I was not expressing opinion on what the high yield numbers mean or what the slightly lower numbers for the other schools mean. I just found it interesting that for these schools, where we presume the best students are applying you do not find a lot of overlap in the acceptances.</p>
<p>This is the first bit of information about Hotchkiss this admission cycle. Unlike AEDS, H didn’t seem to disclose (or at least we havent’ learned) its total applicants and admission rate, etc. And it “followed suit” on Exeter’s offering less financial aid? Well, did it also follow suit when Exeter offered 50% of its student body aid? I think Hotchkiss is overrated. How does it stand out compared with Choate or Lawrenceville. I say “fire” it from HADES (the term).</p>
<p>I don’t care about acronyms at all but I can say that everyone in our household loved Hotchkiss more than Lawrenceville and way more than Choate, but a good fit is an individual thing.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong. No doubt Hotchkiss and many other schools provide excellent education experience. I thought the term HADES refers to a group of schools that are particularly prestigious, selective and well recognized in the BS community. The five schools have been chosen to be the ones that are agreed to fit the criteria by most people. Hotchkiss is a great school, but I don’t think it’s in the same league as the other four, not more so as some others (Choate, Lawrenceville, etc.) anyway.</p>
<p>
</p>
<p>What makes you think St. Paul’s is a conservative school? OR maybe 73% of St.Paul’s admits wanted to go there…and 64% of Exeters wanted to go there. That’s a possibility. If what you’re saying is true why don’t the yields come out like this every year? That makes no sense at all. SPS is a top boarding school like A/E/D/H etc. and people apply because they want a top education and they also apply to other tops because they want an amazing education not for a conservative school.</p>
<p>If SPS wasn’t at the top I wouldn’t be saying it’s because they don’t accept day students therefor don’t get that percentage if almost auto-acceptances because of the driving distance. If I did, that would at least be a viable reason though. You can’t tell me only a specific type of applicant applies to SPS and that’s why the yield was high, maybe with a lower tier school. But I think anyone would take advantage of one of the best educations in the world.</p>
<p>Just saying. Not bashing any other school, just simply stating my mind. Looking for excuses as to why Exeter or Hotchkiss or Deerfield aren’t in the 70%+ is simply unnecessary and superfluous.</p>
<p>I second NoDrama. Yield lower than Choate and Lawrenceville? Had they ever had a yield over 60?</p>
<p>Oh ok that makes more sense now, wasn’t exactly sure which schools you were referring too or what your conservative point was.</p>
<p>"True, no one who has expressed an opinion about the dips this year in yields at some BS’s knows for sure why these yields dropped at either Exeter or Hotchkiss, although it does appear that less FA availability this year at each school was a contributing factor to this drop, if not the main factor, based on all of the information I have seen on CC recently or received from these schools. Of course, such an opinion is always subject to change as more information rolls in. Until then, less FA availablity seems to be the best explantion, albeit not the only explanation, for the drop in yields this year at these two superlative schools. "</p>
<p>True. Exeter “lost” this year in the admission game. Either because of their unsustainable shrunk endowment or changed business strategies, they decreased their FA offering significantly. As a result, they had to “throw out A1 students” and yet still got low yield even with their compromised admits. As for Hotchkiss, I am not sure. I basically agree with NoDrama. It’s not in the same league as AESD.</p>
<p>Ridiculous…</p>
<p>watertester, if you are going to lop off Hotchkiss from HADES, looks like you will also have to take the knife to Deerfield too. From the current “Hotchkiss vs. Deerfield” thread running elsewhere on CC, it seems that there is very little difference between these two exschools. But then, as we should know, both of these schools are excellent and should stand on any short list of top tier BS in the US.</p>
<p>(Delete from prior post “exschools” and replace with “schools”. Sorry for error.)</p>
<p>toombs61, I am probably biased about Hotchkiss. I didn’t follow “Hotchkiss vs. Deerfield” as I thought that was an argument about sports (?). I will read and get some education. Sorry.</p>
<p>watertester, no problem. I think that just about everyone on CC is here for the same reason: to learn as much as possible about BS’s so that we can make the best decision possible about which school to attend or to send our children. Such a decision could be the most important decision some of us make in our lives. CC has been a tremendous resource for me, and I thank everyone who has taken the time and effort to contribute to the common cause of finding that school best suited for his or her needs.</p>
<p>I think it’s ridiculous to talk about Exeter as having “compromised admits.” I suspect that any of these schools could fill their ranks with full pay, very smart and promising and interesting kids. Unless someone is on the admissions committee and really knows what Exeter’s internal rankings even signify, I don’t think it’s useful to judge. It could be that a student gets A2 instead of A1 because they play the violin instead of a rarer instrument like the bassoon, or some other difference that isn’t “compromising.”</p>
<p>Agree ^^ ^ ^^^</p>
<p>I re-read my earlier post and I did find it unthoughtful in a way and understand why it can be offensive. I was trying to echo toomb61’s point that low yield of some schools was related to less FA offering this year, and somehow it came out the way it was. Like toombs61 pointed out, CC has been a great resource and may of you have been so helpful to me in this whole process and I am very grateful. I would never want to make unpleasant or even offensive comments and make others uncomfortable or even hurt their feelings. I apologize.</p>
<p>Thanks watertester! I’m sure this year’s crop of Exeter kids from CC will appreciate your apology especially!</p>
<p>watertester- no worries - I have learned that I am going to have to develop a thick skin to be an Exeter mom. Lots of people like to debate and analyze (myself included) but I don’t have to agree with everything and everyone doesn’t have to agree with me. We can all still like each other but agree to disagree sometimes. I too have learned a lot from all of you and want to continue on good terms.</p>