Admit Rates -- Class of 2016 (official)

<p>Only if the internationals are full pay does that make sense.</p>

<p>Someone posted on the Rice Forum that the admit rate was “around 16%”</p>

<p>5.9%–Harvard
6.6----Stanford
6.8----Yale
7.4----Columbia
7.86—Princeton
8.9----MIT
9.4----Dartmouth
9.6----Brown
11.9—Amherst
11.9—Duke
12.3—Penn
12.4—Claremont McKenna
12.8—Pomona
13.2—UChicago
13.3—Vanderbilt
14.9—Swarthmore
15.3—Northwestern
15.7—Pitzer
16 —Rice
16.1—Bowdoin
16.2—Cornell
16.5—Georgetown
16.7—Williams
17.4—Olin
17.7—Johns Hopkins
17.8—Washington and Lee
17.9—WUSTL
18.2—USC
19.6—UC Berkeley
19.7—Wesleyan
21.0—Barnard
21.1—UC Berkeley 13,038/61,702
21.2—Tufts
21.3—UCLA 15,455/72,657
22.5—Vassar
22.7—University of Notre Dame
25 ----Tulane
25-----Bates
25.7—University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
27.1—Hamilton
27.4—University of Virginia
29.0—Babson
29-----Colby
30-----University of Richmond
32.7—George Washington
34-----University of Rochester
34.7—Macalester
35-----NYU
36.3 — UC Irvine
39-----Occidental
41-----University of Florida
43.4 — UC Santa Barbara
45.5—Boston University
47.7-- UCSD
51-----Elon
62-----UMass, Amherst</p>

<p>Area colleges seeing surge in students</p>

<p>Job demands lead to bigger freshman classes despite rising tuition</p>

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<p>Source: [Area</a> colleges seeing surge in students](<a href=“http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/area-colleges-seeing-surge-in-students-1369617.html]Area”>http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/area-colleges-seeing-surge-in-students-1369617.html)</p>

<p>Since the official data won’t be released until next week, I will just use last year’s total applicants which was around 30,000 + 10% = roughly 33,000 this year. With this year’s accepted students of 16,469, the admission rate should be at around 50% (49.9% to be exact based on the calculation). </p>

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<p>He has done it again!! President Gee has made tOSU one of the most academically desired colleges in the nation, recent applicants are flocking in from all four corners of the country (California, Texas, New York & Michigan) including the neighboring States (Pennsylvania, Illinois, Maryland & Virginia) as well as overseas. With ‘Common App’ next year, I predict an approximately another 25% increase (Thanks to the fact that Ohio State is truly the most bang for your buck in terms of affordability & educational quality imho), the acceptance rate will continue to drop down to the mid-to-low 40s, even if the enrollment were to increase by 10%.</p>

<p>Geographic diversity (Columbus campus, autumn 2011)</p>

<p>Ohio State enrolls students from every state and territory. States with the highest enrollment:</p>

<h1>500+: Pennsylvania, Illinois, New York, California, Michigan</h1>

<h1>300 – 499: Texas, New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia</h1>

<h1>100 – 299: Florida, Indiana, Georgia, Kentucky, Massachusetts, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Utah, Minnesota, Missouri, Arizona, Tennessee, Connecticut</h1>

<h1>50 – 99: West Virginia, Washington, Colorado, South Carolina, Kansas</h1>

<p>RPAC - Best student recreation facility in the nation</p>

<p><a href=“http://newlywifehealthylife.files.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2012/01/osu_rpac.jpg[/url]”>http://newlywifehealthylife.files.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2012/01/osu_rpac.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>New Thompson Library & Student (Ohio) Union</p>

<p>[The Ohio State University Travel Companion Journals](<a href=“http://www.bfhstudios.com/blog/tag/the-ohio-state-university/”>A Stroll Through the Cotswolds – BFH Studios)</p>

<p>Ohio State increases student financial aid by $50 million</p>

<p>Source: <a href=“http://oncampus.osu.edu/2012/04/ohio-state-increases-student-financial-aid-by-50-million/[/url]”>http://oncampus.osu.edu/2012/04/ohio-state-increases-student-financial-aid-by-50-million/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Go Bucks!! :)</p>

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<p>For USNWR purposes, it only reports fall admission rates. In which case:

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<p>[Campus</a> releases 2012-13 freshman admission data](<a href=“Berkeley News | Berkeley”>Berkeley News | Berkeley)</p>

<p>^You are manipulating numbers, with form over substance. The Fall and Spring admits were from the same pool for freshmen admission. Let me ask you, do other schools allow freshmen transfers? For those that have Spring admits, do their admit total not include the Spring admits?</p>

<p>^ Sam, I’m not manipulating numbers. I’ll let Berkeley’s report stand on its own and USNWR can choose what numbers to include in its ranking. It’s not like Berkeley hides admission data of spring admits or transfer students.</p>

<p>^The combined number is the right one to use, though it wouldn’t surprise me if they use the wrong one.</p>

<p>^ Take it up with USNWR. And while you’re at it, have them address the “faculty resources” and “financial resources” rating which benefits universities with medical schools and doesn’t mean anything for the almighty undergrad.</p>

<p>The faculty resources do not include med school faculty. But if the schools report false data, I am not sure USN has the manpower to double-check. I am not familiar with financial resource.</p>

<p>^Yes, it’s the financial resources rating I meant…which includes med school research spending.</p>

<p>A large component of faculty resources is faculty compensation. Here’s the ranking by average salary (excluding med school faculty) among AAU member institutions. So you can compare this to USN ranking:</p>

<p>Stanford
Harvard
Cal. Tech.
Pennsylvania
Columbia
Princeton
Northwestern
Chicago
M.I.T.
Yale
Duke
U.C.L.A.
U.C. Berkeley
Cornell
Emory
Washington U.
Rice
N.Y.U.
Georgia Tech
Carnegie-Mellon
Brown
U.S.C.
U.C.S.D.
North Carolina
Rutgers
U.C. Santa Barbara
Vanderbilt
Virginia
Michigan
Ohio State</p>

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<p>Yes, you should let Berkeley’s report stand on its own. As your own sources cited, “This year’s admissions rate was 21 percent: 61,695 students applied, and 13,037 received offers to start school in either the fall or the spring of the 2012-13 academic year. Last year, that combined admissions rate was 26 percent.” Those numbers are almost identical to the UCOP official numbers that were posted a while ago. And, fwiw, here are the data tables used by UC Berkeley:</p>

<p><a href=“Berkeley News | Berkeley”>Berkeley News | Berkeley;

<p>And, not you are not manipulating data. You are, just as your alma mater does, conveniently obfuscating a portion of the admitted pool. Of course, Cal is not the only school that exploits a loophole caused by a CDS ERRONEOUS definition. Middlebury has also obfuscated its Winter/Spring admits for as far as I can remember. Why is this definition erroneous and misleading? Because the process does not require (and cannot) separate the application pool according to immediate or deferred admissions. The rest is a matter of integrity!</p>

<p>The results, however, are as crooked as a three-dollar bill. And the fact that USNews and its partners in the CDS allow this misreporting to happen goes against the basic principle of the Common Data Set, namely have information that is … comparable. To understand how misleading this is, just imagine if all schools started to split their admissions by semester and have semi-annual graduations of equal importance? How would you like to see your friends at Stanford reporting 36,000 applicants but 800 admissions for September --and not mention the 800 admitted in January or April? </p>

<p>Now, you can compare the CDS for 2010 and the numbers reported correctly by UCOP for 2010 through 2012. </p>

<p><a href=“http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/2010-2011.pdf[/url]”>http://opa.berkeley.edu/statistics/cds/2010-2011.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2012/fall_2012_admissions_table2.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2012/fall_2012_admissions_table2.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>UCB, I bet my school would benefit from the exclusion, given that most of the ones in front have larger spending med schools!! So I have the incentive to be on your side on this one. ;)</p>

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<p>Thanks Sam!! Now everyone can see how severely underrated is Ohio State via USNWR. The only school on the list which currently ranks lower than tOSU is Rutgers. And Rutgers is located in Jersey, not far from New York City, which is much higher in terms of cost of living compared to Columbus, Ohio. Well, I guess it will take a few more years for the commoners and the academics-alike to catch up with tOSU’s fast raising academic performances, thereby giving higher “Undergraduate Academic Reputation Index” on USN ranking. But I have faith that President Gee will get it all fixed soon!! Go bucks!! :)</p>

<p>^Here’s the second portion of the list. There’s an implicit assumption though: that they have roughly the same fraction of full, associate, and assistant profs.<br>
Rochester
U.C. Irvine
U.C. Davis
SUNY-Stony Brook
Illinois
Maryland
SUNY-Buffalo
Texas
Brandeis
Wisconsin
Case Western
Purdue
Iowa
U. of Wash.
Michigan State
Penn State
Minnesota
Indiana
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Arizona
Texas A&M
Florida
Tulane
Iowa State
Kansas
Colorado
Nebraska
Missouri
Oregon</p>

<p>^^ Now I see Michigan State in the small town of East Lansing is also underrated!! :P</p>

<p>“Here’s the ranking by average salary (excluding med school faculty) among AAU member institutions”</p>

<p>Relax sparkeye. Those number are ONLY for AAU member universities. There are plenty of other fantastic schools that are not AAU members.</p>

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<p>rjk, I am relax, but are you?! … :p</p>

<p>Xiggi, I would be fine with a separate ranking for public and private research universities.</p>

<p>And at least Berkeley publishes a CDS…with other info.</p>