Advantage of Elite Schools over Technical, community and so forth

Pre-College Issues High School Life
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<p>Ok, I know someone who is really making a big fuss on how you can be as great doing wonders in a community college than a Harvard Graduate, In other words, its stating that the over achieving students are as dumb and useless as the Devry University thug. </p>

<p>THE TOPIC
"All right. This is my last post regarding this, it's just going back and forth and isn't accomplishing much. My point is one can be just as knowledgable about medicine and the human body as a doctor who went to all those years of school without going themselves. You need to think outside the box here. What you're talking about is getting certain jobs, which have requirements that aren't specifically practical. Practically, the prerequisites for becoming a doctor should be displaying your knowledge in the field, not waving your ivy league ticket at an employer. It takes work to do good in an ivy league school, big deal, you can still do as much work or even more to prove your skill in an area through PRACTICE. I'm very good with computers, I'm training to be a computer engineer. In many fields, college will provide the knowledge necessary but lacks the hands on training you'll need to excel in your field.</p>

<p>If you must know... in 5th grade I was selected as part of a national acedemic program to take the SAT. I haven't taken it since, nor do I need to. I scored higher than most students getting into college if I remember correctly. I scored a 35 composite on the ACT, some fields like math and science were perfectly answered by me. As far as I know that's 99.9% better than most of the people that take that test. All state and national tests I've scored above the 99% percentile. Sure this says something, you get a question, you answer said question correctly and understand the meaning, thats part of intelligence. Logic is also part of intelligence. My GPA was lacking, yet I was still able to look around in my advanced courses and prove I knew more about the subjects than the other students with perfect GPAs.</p>

<p>I already told you, in my case it was a lack of homework that contributed to my GPA. Some days I felt too depressed to do homework. This doesn't prove I'm any less intelligent than others. Some people like me fall through the cracks of the standard school system, yet I can be just as smart as the average doctor coming out of all those years of schooling. Studying at home is not different than at a school provided you do it right.</p>

<p>Don't judge someone on these kinds of things. If I hadn't been depressed and did all my homeowrk and had a lot more money from my parents, I could be in one of those ivy league schools. Would I be any smarter today? We don't know. All I do know is I'm good in my field, I make a nice living even now at my age. Jobs are very available to me, I'm not worried. Even though I'm intelligent, I don't think it's necessary. Most importantly, be a good person that inspires others to achieve their level of greatness.</p>

<p>I can tell you're really interested in this subject. You've also must have had a different experience than I had throughout your life. You realize colleges like ours didn't exist all throughout history. There were many marvels of intelligence before the notion of public schooling became commonplace. You need to go to special colleges to become a doctor NOT because without school you wouldn't be capable, but simply because that's the requirement. It proves to most people your capability even though every person going isn't fully qualified nor is every person not attending fully disqualified. You understand? There are people that never set foot in any college and can still be considered some of the most intelligent people on the planet just as there are some people that attend years of college and don't achieve the same goals as those around them.</p>

<p>If you're basing how much money people make on their intelligence then sure...</p>

<p>And why are you bringing up Dan? I'm not saying college is bad. I'm not saying people who go to college aren't better off. What I'm saying is it's not necessary for everyone. Especially not an ivy league college.</p>

<p>If you want to talk about this more PM me, this topic is way off track already."</p>

<p>CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS? ITS DRIVING ME NUTS.</p>

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<p>If you can answer this in the most philosophical and complex way you can, you deserve a cookie.</p>

<p>I challenge you to reply.</p>

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<p>I'm not going to debate with you over this issue because I totally agree. There are people who are extremely intelligent who never attended an Ivy League university or let alone finish college, case in point: Bill Gates. There are people who are less intelligent than me who hold higher rankings because they took easier classes ,which are a joke compared to advanced courses. If colleges see us just by our ranking alone then they would ASSUME that the other person has more intelligence than me, which is just absurd. </p>

<p>I do believe however that some college education is necessary or atleast a degree or even certification in that field. My mother is a business manager at a local company here in Texas and she never graduated college, my aunt who wants to do the exact same thing is now going back to school to study in that particular area. My aunt has years of experience in the field that she does now, but because she does not have a degree or any certification she will most likely lose her job. My mother and I were talking about this and she stated that her generation will more than likely be the last one who can recieve those kind's of jobs based on experience alone. Many major companies probably feel safer knowing that their employee has attended college and has many years of experience in their designated field.</p>

<p>However, the same goes both way's. You can't just wave an Ivy League diploma and expect to be hired on the spot just because you went to a prestigious college. If you don't have the work experince then you can just forget it. Those are my two cent's so hope you enjoy.</p>

<p>PS: From one Mexican to another, I can totally relate to the not doing homework thing.</p>

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<p>mexican_dude,</p>

<p>you're forgetting prestige. people see you for your accomplishments and getting to a prestigious university is definitely an accomplishment. For example, if you're a Harvard Graduate, it instantly turns all heads and, in a job interview, could land you that job instantly. Who would you hire, a devry university graduate or a harvard graduate? it's obvious. it's not that easy to put it into words to explain everything. if you just think about it for a while, it's easy to figure out. use common sense. sure you can have a devry university student who is super brilliant and knows everything, but why the heck would he be in devry university anyways? you're question is just like saying why don't i just not go to college and win the lottery?</p>

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<p>Ok, note that I didn't write the Topic, so any one against it?</p>