Advice from Seniors to Juniors

Now that most of you know the outcome of your college applications, what advice do you have for those of us who are juniors? My brother, a current senior said:

  1. don’t write the application for your #1 dream school first
  2. apply to a couple of safety schools with rolling admissions first so you can (hopefully) get some acceptances before any deferrals or rejections come
  3. don’t be afraid to “roll the dice” with a few dream schools…and don’t be afraid to add a school or two in December
    Any other advice? Good luck to all of you as you make your final decisions. Congratulations on surviving the college application process!

<p>Don't wait until Christmas vacation to apply to nine schools. And don't underestimate the power of a good interview.</p>

<p>dont be misguided by the ridiculously high stats that some people here have...</p>

<p>Start writing your essays earlier if you are applying to many schools.
Try to finish your SAT's by the end of junior year.
I cannot emphasize enough the necessity of revealing your "uniqueness" to the colleges, especially selective ones.</p>

<p>Amen Diablo. I'm a junior and considered applying to Stanford EA, but after checking out the stats of some of the acceptees I feel like I should just consign myself to my local state U.</p>

<p>This thread is a fantastic idea, btw. Thanks for all the advice; I'll be needing it.</p>

<p>Re-invent the wheel. No seriously, do it, get a patent, and have that patent be the first thing on your application, followed by the check that goodyear cut you for several hundred million dollars for use of said re-invented wheel. Also include photo of you saving disabled foreign children from resurgent neo-nazis carrying syringes of drug-resistent diseases on your new vehicle using your newly re-invented wheel as you scoop endangered species from harm's way as you drive.</p>

<p>Also mail your application on time.</p>

<p>I just want to emphasize rolling the dice. Don't apply to all "dream" schools, but you never know you might get into just one. With a 1200, I applied to Cornell, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown, and Northwestern for fun. Sure I got rejected from three of them, but I'll be at Northwestern in the fall. Good luck!</p>

<p>Take them as many times as time / money affords. Without decent SAT's you can be ruin your chances at any top school. You can work incredibly hard in school, and have a million EC's but if your SAT's don't represent your true potential, you can't expect top colleges to see the real you.</p>

<p>Other than that, just have fun in high school, don't do things to look good on applications, do them because you want to.</p>

<p>Yours,
~shai</p>

<p>Best of luck.</p>

<p>Look beyond the names you already know. Look for some hidden gems.</p>

<p>Make sure you would want to go to all the places you apply to. </p>

<p>Find LJ communities for prospective colleges. </p>

<p>Don't think too much about where others are applying to and brush off the constant questions about "where you're going to go- be in the future- etc." </p>

<p>Be creative with your essay. I loved mine, it was very unconventional.</p>

<p>Try not to fail senior year. </p>

<p>If you need the money, try to apply to some colleges where you will be the "big fish in the small pond." That would help with merit $$. But make sure you like the place too. </p>

<p>G'luck 2006.</p>

<p>Like Phishfan said, never underestimate an interview. If possible, go for an on-campus interview and make sure you "wow" them with yourself. Make sure to appear confident and sure of yourself, even if you don't feel like it.</p>

<p>Don't kill your parents, even if they nit-pick your essay until it lies at your feet in shreds. They'll see something that you might've missed in your essay, and can give you great ideas. Speaking of essays, make sure you get people you trust to proof-read it!</p>

<p>If possible, VISIT THE SCHOOL! I had a friend who loved Carneige Mellon and when she went to visit, she hated it because it was not her "cup of tea".</p>

<p>Don't take very hard classes (e.g. Calc BC/Phys AP) senior year if you know you're going to slack off. Better to get an "A" in regular Gov/Econ than a "D" in AP Gov.</p>

<p>Start the application process early, and don't apply to 11 schools during your Christmas break. It'll ruin your break.</p>

<p>And last of all, it's not where you go, it's how you do (in other words, don't sweat it if you don't get into Stanford)!</p>

<p>Stuff I wish I would have known:</p>

<p>1) If you are interested in a school. Make it look like it. Don't just write (call, visit, interview) colleges like to know they're more than an application to be sent.</p>

<p>2) And another thing: make sure you have a SAFTEY school you would not mind going to. I can't repeat this enough.</p>

<p>3) Apply early. Early advantages come to early appliers (like special visits, overnight stay opportunities).</p>

<p>4) Don't set your heart on anywhere.</p>

<p>5) Remember more than 60% (forgot the exact percentage haha) of first year college students change their major (especially at U of I where you have to apply to your major) so don't plan for your major like you're never going to switch.</p>

<p>6) Be yourself on your essays. Write like yourself and overdescribe. Be creative and most of all: Have FUN!!!</p>

<p>7) Don't be afraid of a school b/c a lot of people from your school are going there. At a school as big as U of I you'll never see anyone you don't want to.</p>

<p>8) Don't bash other's college choices. They may be important to them. And don't act stuck up about yours.</p>

<p>9) Don't set your heart on plans b/c they can change (roommates, friends).</p>

<p>10) Don't slack off because its senior year and not take classes that would be advantageous like Euro Hist getting rid of a Gen Ed or Physics AP preparing you better in a subject you might take.</p>

<p>11) Remember college is different than high school and a lot harder. No matter what.</p>

<p>12) Try things you would normally do. (eat new foods, go to the nearest city, go to mueseums, go out for the play. Some stuff might pop up that you never would have experienced and not had knowledge of previously)</p>

<p>13) When you go to college things: be outgoing, introduce yourself. Others might not realize it yet but they will eventually want to make friends. Try to strike up a random conversation and people will remember you. Sometimes better than you remember them, because you tried and actually made an impact. (ie I was talking to one of my new good friends and college and I brought up where we might have met. I said psychology and he was like you don't remember? You came up and talked to me at the LAS meeting. I started asking if he thought that was weird and asked if he met anyone. He said no he didn't try but it was more interesting to talk to someone than listen to a boring Gen Ed lecture. haha so be interesting.)</p>

<p>14) Try to be more independent. Try to pay for what you can and do things for yourself. Instead of having your room cleaned for you or going and getting fast food, do it yourself. This is much more harder than it looks. Just do random things like bringing in the mail or taking out the trash. I was never pampered and did a lot of chores but my sister will have trouble with this.</p>

<p>15) That being said about independence, don't follow your friends. Decide on a place thats true to you. Not the name. Same with housing. It is all about you. This isn't your lifelong bud, Jimmy's education or your Bestest Best Friend Sara's college (nor is it your parents' college either, it may be their money and they can direct that but you have to choose). This is your decision and no one else's. Although that doesn't mean you can listen to advice (especially if they know what they're talking about). Go where you find (or think you will find) true happiness. And remember that could always change (you have the ability to transfer, switch majors and stuff going in the same vein as this.)</p>

<p>15) (!) Especially important if you are the first to go: Tell you parents, "Hey this is gonna be a hard year. Instead of bearing down, could you maybe lighten up. I'm trying my hardest and will not have you there next year. If this upsets you, don't take it out on me by yelling at me for everything. Let me breathe . . . by myself." This is a huge one. (The fights at my house got so crazy and stupid I finally, "I can't do this anymore. I don't want to go to college hating you." And they finally got the point. Don't let it get to that point.) So that you can have a stress-free year.</p>

<p>16) Jump at every opportunity presented (college presentations, invitations to the college, internships, scholarships b/c they will matter. I wasn't sure about doing an internship before freshman year b/c I wanted to relax but I have never made a better decision.)</p>

<p>17) From my list I have gathered that college is basically impossible to prepare for and completely unpredictable. I predicted I would get into U of I but never would I have predicted getting into the Honors Program or getting the internship before freshman year.</p>

<p>18) Don't get too caught up with it. Keep involved in other things. You life in high school will never be as stressful again. (This is a different type of stress than junior year. That was just crazy.)</p>

<p>I'll probably come up with more. I kept really laid-back but unfortunately it was much later and I had screwed myself out of a lot of my senior year. I see my sister this year making a lot of mistakes too. These are just the basics.</p>

<p>Wow! Thank you all for your thoughtful advice. About the SATs though...I heard we should only take them three times. Is that true? Do selective colleges prefer just a few attempts?</p>

<p>look for the schools that fit, not the schools that break the top ten in the us news and world report. Try liberal arts colleges, attempt to get a feel for bug places- narrow down choices with decent reasoning (good programs, accesible profs, etc.) Its uber-important to know why you are applying to each school- a college can tell when you spout odes to their campus but have no genuine interest. And don't be bummed about rejections. Life has a mysterious way of working out.</p>

<p>dreamer88 - there's no set limit to how many times you can take the SATs. However, most recommend 3 times because the chances of improving dramatically after 3 attempts is rather slim. I know someone who took it the 1st time with a 1410, then went downhill from there the last two times she took it. </p>

<p>I'd say take some time off between taking each one (e.g. don't take the October one, then the December one), and make sure you study hard.</p>

<p>My advice...don't get too addicted to CC!</p>

<p>It's a great resource, but you can waste a lot of time on this board looking at other's stats, and asking for opinions. Don't let yourself get down because of other's amazing stats.</p>

<p>Don't go ED or EA if you're not ready.
Get "On Writing the College Application Essay" by Harry Bauld. Start your essays in the summer and once you think you're finished and they're polished, they're probably not. So make a few tweaks every day (but save all copies) until you're satisfied.
Write out your resume and if it's not long enough, try to remember some things you did or awards you won that you could put down, no matter how insignificant (like Governor's Scholarship or Golden State exam results)
Print out your application and read it as if you were a college adcom, then make any changes you think they would find favorable.
Make your app stand out. Even if you didn't stand out in high school, your personality still can. It's very important to be yourself throughout the whole thing. Don't force out a voice that isn't your own, and don't be afraid to be a little informal if that's the way you are.
And take every damn chance you get, especially when admissions decisions and invites come. Go to everything, interview for everything, go through a little hell and then sit back and let the offers roll in. If you do it right, you will be put into a position where the tables are turned, and you're receiving all sorts of mail from schools begging you to consider them. The goal is to be able to say, "Oh, Harvard sent me another letter? They just continue to waste trees for things they could just e-mail. Yale too."</p>

<p>Someone said it before, but I'll repeat it because I dont think I can stress this enough: be yourself in your essays. If you find that you're forcing yourself to write something that's not you, then don't do it. If you're a silly person, fine, write a silly essay. If you're funny, don't hold back. I know that I'm kind of a laid back, random person, and the thing I regret the most about the college admissions process was writing essays that were serious because looking back on it, it just wasn't me. </p>

<p>Don't try and package yourself for colleges and ask yourself what they want to read because quite frankly, there's no one thing that they want to read: they just want to find out more about you.</p>

<p>Don't overdo on one school. I applied to Stanford EA, I started my application in July; I worked on that application until October 23. I wrote five different essays on four different topics before I submitted that application. That application took a serious amount of time, and I got rejected. Looking back I wish I had taken some of the time that went into that long shot Stanford app into some apps for schools that I had a serious chance of getting accepted to, UCLA and Berkeley, where I ended up getting rejected. Treat every application like the school is your first choice, you never know where you'll end up and if you treat every school like it's the one you want to be at next fall you'll have a better chance at merit aid if the school offers it, you'll have a better shot at an honors program if the school has it, and you'll feel really good when you send off every application. </p>

<p>Your applications are all your prospective schools are going to see of you; show who you are, even if you don't think it's what the school will want to see. If the school doesn't accept you, it probably isn't going to be the best fit for you. </p>

<p>I have to agree, take some time to enjoy your senior year. Do something that might not be an application builder, but that you enjoy. I'm creating my senior class slideshow, it's not on my application, but I'm having a good time doing it. Make the most of your senior year, it is probably the last time you'll spend with most of the people in your class, get to know them, they'll be your graduating class forever.</p>

<p>Relax about applications once you've sent them. You can't change them, so don't worry. This is the piece of advice that I wish I had followed. It takes work to realize there's nothing you can do and to put it out of your mind, but it will help you so much if you can do it.</p>

<p>Last of all, I wish you the best of luck; it's a process that must have been created to torture high school seniors, but once it's over it is such a great relief. I've gotten my acceptances and rejections and realized they have nothing to do with my worth as a human being or as a student. I am happy with my choices, even though I got rejected from my top three schools. Next fall I will be at either USC or the University of Florida, and both are good choices and will be good fits. It takes a lot of work to get through this process, but you'll be happy you did it, and no one can ever take away your college education, no matter what. Have fun in the process, even though most of it will be out of your hands for several months.</p>

<p>Thanks Jessetfan! UF is a fabulous school with many incredible opportunities. I know so many talented kids who go there. Best of luck in whatever you choose.</p>

<p>APPLY TO LOTS OF PLACES!</p>

<p>The more the merrier (unless app fees are harsh)</p>

<p>its always good to have more choices</p>