Advice needed. D wants to leave IB magnet after Jr. yr.

<p>Our high school is implementing IB next year, and after reading this thread I am so glad that my last child is graduating this year. It sounds ghastly. My older kid would probably have done it had it been available and would have hated it but would have been too stubborn to quit. My younger wouldn't have even considered it.</p>

<p>Our culture has an obsession with not quitting. So don't think of it as quitting, think of it as strategic abandonment. Your education should fit you, not the other way around.</p>

<p>MarinMom, while I am not a fan of the IB program, I have to be fair and say that not all schools operate it the same way. Some programs offer more choices than others, with SL courses taught in one year. </p>

<p>Ironically, the IB was designed so that students with an IB diploma would graduate from high school with the same recognizable standards. I don't think that is always the case.</p>

<p>MarinMom, one thing I would certainly advise against, is sending your kid to the IB program in its first year! With the best intentions, it takes few years for a school to learn the IB system.</p>

<p>Just to weigh in with a positive take on IB, and some perspective on junior year:</p>

<p>OP: I feel your pain! My D, a senior now, has been in IB since 6th grade. Junior year was BY FAR her worst year in terms of stress, and the worst of the worst was from January to April. In addition to the normal heavy workload (which she was used to managing by then), SATs and IB testing were looming, and there was the ever-present "Colleges look mostly at junior-year grades" pressure. She was struggling to stay involved in her life-long extracurricular, again to look good to the colleges. And meanwhile, it was my full-time job to try to keep her glued together until June. For 4 or 5 months, there was no joy in our lives, only unrelenting pressure. We were both thinking that maybe it was time to abandon the IB ship so that our heads wouldn't explode -- not a great frame of mind to be making important decisions about her future.</p>

<p>We are both so glad that she stayed. By May, the testing was behind her and we realized how much of the stress was due to that alone. She is having an easier senior year in terms of workload, and much of the grade pressure is off as well. Maybe most important, college is now on the visible horizon -- the goal of all this struggle. She is a much happier kid than she was at this time last year.</p>

<p>IB has not been an unmixed blessing, for sure. The biggest challenge for my D (not organized by nature) has been learning to pace herself. With IB, you do have to stay on top of things, especially those multitudes of long-term projects. We have had our share of all-nighters and meltdowns, and "I hate IB!!!!", especially last year.</p>

<p>But now that the storm has passed, we are seeing more clearly what a wonderful experience it has been. She has gotten a very high-quality education (at a public school in our case); she's been doing college-level work for more than a year now, and will be able to challenge for some of her college credits. She has spent her middle- and high-school years with peers who value academic achievement. She thinks, speaks, and writes broadly, deeply, and well -- as IB teaches. She's learned a level of self-discipline which AP or Honors would not have required of her, and she takes great pride that she will finish something that was really difficult for her. And she's now reaping the rewards in terms of college admissions and scholarships. </p>

<p>I don't know if your D should stay; only you and she can decide that. I just wanted to let you know that you're now deep into the worst part, and it may be that when the fog lifts a little, things will look different. Either way, good luck!</p>

<p>Well, we finally got it all worked out. She will remain at the school she is in. YAY. I was pretty sure that part would work out. We met with the principal, gc, and magnet coordinator. After a lot of discussion, a few options, and strong encouragement, she chose to take the option of dropping TOK after spring break for the last 9 week term and replacing it with PE! I have never seen a student (who generally is not at all into sports) jump at the chance to take a PE class. You should have seen her smile. I am glad the pressure and the stress is behind her. She can concentrate on what she feels is important, and not get bogged down with the stuff that won't be important for her.</p>

<p>Thank you all. Your input really helped our family to make an educated decision.</p>

<p>Congrats on a decision everyone can live with. :)</p>

<p>Thanks for the update. I'm guessing that dropping TOK will make her life much easier.<br>
(D is taking TOK as an elective, and the amount of time she is working on her journal is stunning to me.)</p>

<p>I also say let her move on. Life is way too short. I'm just graduating and didn't kill myself with 4-6 AP's this year like a lot of my friends. I got into my first choice school (yes, not an Ivy but still only 35% admit rate). I have friends in an IB program and I wouldn't change to their school for anything. I love my classes and I do varsity sports/music year round. Really hard to have a life with IB program.</p>

<p>The other thing I noticed and maybe I'm really off base here but having been snooping around CC for the last year, it seems that the GPA's of most of the IB kids are lower than those of AP kids. I know the colleges probably know the difference but this didn't help a friend of mine with the UC's admissions. His mom called and was told, "oh well, he doesn't meet the criteria."</p>