Advice on pursing a second bachelor's degree in psychology or cognitive science

<p>This is officially my very first forum post ever. </p>

<p>I'd like to begin by saying that I am writing this post in the hopes of receiving encouragement, perspective, and suggestions. I am not interested in criticisms or harsh comments. </p>

<p>My situation in a nut shell:</p>

<p>I have always been intellectually-minded and interested in a career in academia conducting research and pursuing a passion. The problem is that it was not until very recently that I finally unearthed a passion and figured out what I really want to do with my life/career. </p>

<p>I'm Asian-American, female, I've just turned 25 years old, and I live in California. I have a BS in Chemical Engineering from UC Berkeley and a Masters in Materials Science and Engineering from UC San Diego. Earlier this year I decided to step away from engineering in order to pursue a career in understanding and unlocking the mysteries of the human mind. I've decided to go back to school for a second bachelor's degree -- this time in Psychology or Cognitive Science.</p>

<p>Why another bachelor's degree? Well, I considered applying for graduate degrees but dismissed this thought because I would like to explore the different aspects of the field to get a feel for what particular field of research I would like to get into. Plus, I figured that acceptance to graduate programs would be super competitive and I wouldn't make an ideal candidate. <strong>Are there any arguments or suggestions for graduate programs that I might consider applying to given my lack of educational background on the subject and my want for a broad education and inability to commit to a specific vein of research?</strong> What about Post-baccalaureate programs? I don't know much about them... I hear they're expensive, I might as well get another degree (most of the programs I've found say I can do it in 2 years), right? </p>

<p>Where to study? A vast majority of colleges and universities do not accept applicants for second bachelor's degrees. A few of the places that I've found that DO offer them include Cambridge (UK), Mount Holyoke (Mass.), and Mills College (Ca.). These schools offer programs in which I can earn the degree in only two years. Surprisingly, I am actually pretty confidence about getting accepted to these schools, as they have special programs for "nontraditional-aged students" for which I am eligible for. The major problem now becomes the cost of attendance. The schools I've mentioned here have tuition costs of over $42,000/year, this doesn't even include living costs. <strong>Does anyone know of any high-quality universities that accept applicants for a second bachelor's degree? Especially cheaper, affordable ones.</strong> </p>

<p>How am I going to pay for this? The heavy and unpleasant reality that life, to a significant extent, revolves around money is setting in. I already have about $9,000 in student loans and I cannot rely on financial assistance from my family. My funding will have to be through loans, grants, and scholarships. I've considered working in an engineering job for a year or two to make money and save up, but I am very reluctant to put off starting my new education. I think I'd rather be in debt and have to pay it off later, so that I can start with this new chapter of my life. I read somewhere that as far as federal aid goes I would only be eligible for Stafford loans, Perkins loans, and Pell grants -- all of these added together would add up to $30,000/year at most. <strong>Does anyone have any advice or suggestions regarding taking out private loans for funding a second bachelor's degree? Or perhaps scholarship opportunities available?</strong> </p>

<p>As of now my primary interest is in attending Cambridge, Lucy Cavendish College in particular. But the fact that I'm not a UK citizen severely limits my eligibility for financial aid. <strong>Does anyone know about getting funding from the US for an education abroad (and I'm not talking like study abroad for a semester, I'm talking about a full education, 2 years minimum)? Can the Stafford federal loan be used for study at Cambridge?</strong></p>

<p>I've looked into going back to UC Berkeley but officially only the Colleges of Chemistry and Engineering consider applicants for a second bachelor's degree (the College of Letters and Science houses degrees in Psychology and Cognitive Science). I've emailed them inquiring about the possibility of my returning for a second bachelor's degree. I'm hoping that if I pry enough or talk to the right people perhaps I can find a way to make it work. After all, aren't there always loopholes or work-arounds to policies? Perhaps if I can get approval from the dean, or director of admissions... UC Berkeley is slightly more affordable than the other schools I mentioned. Plus, I'm an alumna, that should mean something, right?</p>

<p>I worry about being able to pay back loans... I'm not sure how much I can expect to be making or when I will start really making money -- I plan to get a PhD, and if I'm still interested in research I'll most likely do a post-doc, and apply for faculty positions at universities. Hopefully I can get a fellowship for my PhD and go to a reputable research institution. <strong>Does anyone know about salaries for postdocs in psychology or cognitive science, or how much professors in these fields make?</strong> I have a mild interest in going the medical route and becoming a psychiatrist, but as of now my inclination is toward a career in research, not just treatment. <strong>Out of curiosity, how much to psychiatrists usually make?</strong></p>

<p>The other thing I find myself being concerned about is my age and the pressure of my ticking biological clock. I am a woman and would like to have kids at a decent age. I know there are significant health risks to having a child over the age of 35, and especially over the age of 40. If I pursue this route, I may not get my PhD until I'm 34 years old, and I may not get a faculty position until I'm well into my 40s. How am I going to manage school, building a career, and having a family...? I know it can be done, I know many people do it, but it all seems so daunting. Should I try to have kids along the process, or should I wait until I'm settled into my career and financially stable? Should I just try not to think about this right now? I've thought about just getting a comfy, high-paying engineering job and settling down and making family my main priority, but something doesn't feel quite right about this. I think, for me, in order to live a full, happy, and meaningful life, I must be pursuing a passion. I cannot settle, that would be an unsatisfying life for me, on filled with what-ifs and potential regrets. <strong>I'd love to hear from women who have found themselves in similar situations -- changing careers later in life, having children in their late 30s or in their 40s.</strong></p>

<p>I think it's worth mentioning that I am deeply driven to pursue this change in direction of studies/career. It's more than just a casual interest. I have spent the last 7+ years of my life struggling with Major Depression. Now, after a harrowing battle fought within the constructs of my own mind and years of sorting through deep-seated psychological issues, I finally have the experience, clarity of mind, inspiration and passion to make an informed decision about my future and my career. My experience as a "consumer" in the world of mental health has kindled in me a robust passion and interest in understanding the human mind and a profound appreciation for the complexities of human thought, feeling, and behavior. Never in my life have I been more sure of anything than I am about my choice to switch directions and pursue a career studying and unlocking the mysteries of the mind. In fact, for the first time I feel like I am in the driver's seat of my own life and I am living with passion and purpose. I have the experience, ambition, skills, and potential -- now all I need is the opportunity to pursue my dream. Please, help me find my way, help me become the person I have the potential to be.</p>

<p>Thank you so much for taking the time to read through my post. I look forward to your responses.</p>

<p>Hi! When I was reading your message - it’s as if I was reading about myself. My situation is very similar - I have a bachelor’s degree in Economics, also I’m a US CPA (Certified Public Accountant) and ACCA (European analogy of CPA), I have worked as an auditor in Big 4, now I’m an accountant at the international investment company but this is not what I want to be continue doing. I have always wanted to study human mind (cognitive science or neurology), and I would prefer spending the rest of my life doing research in this area rather than being an accountant. Many concerns that you mentioned (e.g. age, combining academic career and family life, etc) are very familiar to me. It was also a great disappointment to me that most universities do not accept students for second bachelor’s degree. But I will continue to search. Anyway, I want to send you a word of encouragement and let you know that your starting point is not that bad. For example you are 25 - and I turned 30 already. Also - you live in the US - that’s a great advantage. I’m not from USA, I need a visa to go there. But despite all this I don’t lose hope that I can find a suitable and affordable bachelor’s program in cognitive science and achieve something in this field. And I sincerely wish you success in pursuing your dream! I see that your post didn’t get any responses yet. Perhaps you were able to find info from other sources? If you have any useful links / advice to share on this topic - I would be very grateful. And in any case - good luck to you!</p>

<p>Age is just a number. As far as biological clock goes, the thoughts you are having a normal and sensible. A lot women are freezing their eggs these days at around 30, I believe that is the sensible thing to do, so perhaps you should look into that.</p>

<p>I know exactly how you feel when it comes to not wanting to do something you just…don’t want to do. There is no point dwelling on the past. At the end of the day it’s your life, and your time, you have to do what you love with it. I can tell you have a beautiful passion for cognitive science and I’m sure the admissions people will also be able to see it given your story. </p>

<p>I understand that you want to take a fresh start with a Bachelor’s degree, and I’m all for it, but you should not give up on graduate degree options just because your chances are less. Read about your subject, see the stuff they teach in undergraduate, go over it in your free time, and then look at what all you will be doing in graduate degree, if you think you will understand it, I say go for it. A LOT of graduate degrees don’t require specific undergraduate degree from applicants, a lot of times people do them in completely unrelated subjects. So don’t give up on a Master’s level studies opportunity if you find one.</p>

<p>Best of luck! Be strong!</p>