Advice please for a lacrosse recruit

<p>Hi have a son a junior who is looking to go for high D3 schools for lacrosse. He is a very good player, only 9th grader to make varsity in a competitive school. I am a little overwhelmed by the process as i am doing this alone (husband is not here). I do not know much about recruiting and we are learning as we go. If anyone has recent and extensive experience with the timelime for D3 and where he should be right now, and what to expect over these next few months, I would be grateful to hear from you.</p>

<p>If I am understanding things correctly, most D3 recruiting is done this spring into summer and by fall they know who they want and will start getting transcripts and test scores to be sure they are a match. </p>

<p>What kind of contact should he be having with coaches as of right now? He keeps in "regular contact" with about 5 who have all expressed specific interest in him and who have all said they will be watching him this season and have suggested he also visit the school.</p>

<p>What else do we need to know? Would appreciate any information you can share. Thank you.</p>

<p>hi mom, surprised you didn’t get any responses. i don’t know lacrosse but i do know that they recruit earlier than my kids’ sport. hopefully some posters with specific lacrosse experience will respond but i would assume you should be in pretty close contact with coaches by now.</p>

<p>if your child is already a junior, i think you should be sending transcripts and test scores asap. if you already have them, send now. if you can go on the unofficials, do so. D3 coaches want to know you want them and, of course, the academics need to match so don’t neglect that!</p>

<p>good luck. i would repost or start a new thread and see if you get better answers.</p>

<p>Thanks. He has sent some grades to a few schools hasn’t tested yet, supposed to in April and May. We know he is on the radar of at least 6 schools that he keeps in regular contact with. I hope to hear more lacrosse specific replies as each sport is slightly different but really appreciate you responding. Thank you.</p>

<p>I, too, do not have specific lax recruiting knowledge, but I don’t think it differs that much from the other helmet sports with the exception of the timeframe.</p>

<p>That being said, I would suggest a methodical and far reaching approach.</p>

<p>Have your son put together a packet of information about his academic and lax achievements and a highlight film.</p>

<p>Post the highlight film on Youtube so you have a link to send the coaches.</p>

<p>Have your son put together a list of all the schools that he has even the slightest interest in and the contact information of the recruiting coach or head coach at each school.</p>

<p>Then methodically have your son send an email to each coach introducing himself and including the information packet and a link to his film. (Also be sure to visit each school’s website and complete its Recruiting Questionnaire.)</p>

<p>Monitor the responses you get, make sure you get a real response (ie, not an email responder) from each school, and try to develop a relationship or at least a familiarity with the coaches. Keep them up to date on achievements, both academic and athletic. If you live near the colleges, attach a schedule and invite them to your games. Tell the coaches of the schools you are most interested in that you want to visit their schools.</p>

<p>And don’t limit yourself to only lax-specific recruiting advice. There is a lot of recruiting information on this site and others that applies regardless of the specific sport. For example, if your son is interested in NESCAC schools, there is much information about NESCAC recruiting that applies to all sports. Non-NESCAC DIIIs and the Ivies as well.</p>

<p>Best of luck to you and your son!</p>

<p>mom. you probably already know this if you’re a lax parent - but the recruiting timetable is earlier for lax than most sports. In the NESCAC, while nothing is official until the ED decision date, there is a lot of interaction between a player’s HS/Club coach and the college coach prior to that time.</p>

<p>Your son’s HS coach is a valuable ally here. The Tufts lax coach (Daye) was interviewed and said “we will not recruit a guy until we’ve talked to their head high school coach…predicting outcomes for 16 and 17 year old boys is an inexact science at best”</p>

<p>Good luck - stay in touch</p>

<p>Hi no actually I didn’t know lacrosse is earlier. I really don’t know much about how this works but am trying to learn and learn fast! His club coach was pushing for some D1 schools but we concluded this is not the route he wants to go. He is more interested in high level D3. Should he have a meeting with his HS coach to see what he can or should be doing? Thanks…</p>

<p>^ absolutely have him sit down with his HS coach to formulate a plan. I didn’t notice if you posted any academic info - but grades and test scores will have to be strong if he’s looking at top D3s</p>

<p>this is the year (spring high school lacrosse and summer club lacrosse) for decisions to be made for D3 lacrosse. Offers will have already been made before his senior lacrosse season so it won’t count in the decision making process.</p>

<p>Good news is that top leve academic D3 schools do not do much early recruiting because grades play such a big roll as well. Early decisions are usually happening in the November-December time frame of his senior year.</p>

<p>If you have not been taping your son and making a highlight tape for him please make sure you do that. It only needs to be 3-5 minutes long, but this can allow your son to reach out further to other schools and let the coaches get a snap shot of his capabilities to see if they’re interested or not.</p>

<p>I’m sure you’re aware, but D3 schools do not give any athletic scholarships. All financial aid is need based or merit based. Your son’s lacrosse ability will get him to the top of the pile of eaqually ranked kids, or maybe pushed ahead of some kids that are academically ranked slightly above him, but its important to note that its the Admissions Office that will make the decision on whether your son gets in or not. Your coach can say he would like him, but then he’s at their mercy.</p>

<p>Its good to hear that you son is talking to some schools. Now its your job to ensure that there is real interest from these coaches and they’re not just casting a very wide net and trying to keep as many kids interested in their program as possible for their “safety”. You don’t want him feeling “loved” by these coaches if its really not there.</p>

<p>Good luck</p>

<p>Thaniks to everyone for responding. He met with his coach and he is going to reach out to some of the college coaches hes spoken to some of the coaches and says the interest in genuine. At this point for those top tier schools it comes down to the scores which has me a nervous wreck!
He is fine with grades and has the talent to play at that level (according to those who know) so at this point its all going to come down to the scores.
Does anyone know (who is knowledgeable with lacrosse recruiting) at about what time is the period where D3 schools start verbally committing to these kids. Is it summer after junior year, the fall? I have no idea. His HS coach is unfortunately having to take a leave of absence as of next week due to illness, so they are getting an interim coach, the timing could not be worse but we can’t control everything.
Thanks-</p>

<p>mom, I think you’ll find this article interesting. It talks about early recruiting in D1 lax vs DIII.
[D-III</a> Reaps Benefits From D-I Early Recruiting | Lacrosse Magazine](<a href=“http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DIII/2012-13/news/012313_diii_reaps_benefits_of_di_early_recruiting]D-III”>http://www.laxmagazine.com/college_men/DIII/2012-13/news/012313_diii_reaps_benefits_of_di_early_recruiting)</p>

<p>[Lacrosse</a> Recruiting Camps](<a href=“Helping Student Athletes Get Recruited | SportsRecruits”>Helping Student Athletes Get Recruited | SportsRecruits)</p>

<p>Look to see which camps have coaches (or their reps) attending from the schools your son is interested in. Also, most D3 coaches cannot “commit”. There is a system of “tips” and “protects” but ultimately the decision is in the hands of the admission department.</p>

<p>As a parent, I went through this process with my S (at DIII-NESCAC colleges for football - similar experience as other helmet sports like LAX) last summer. I would HIGHLY emphasize on having a broader reach/approach with all your DIII College coaches and recommend that you methodically go through this long process. This note is meant to be for all the fine student-athletes that have an interest to pursue an athletic “hook” with DIII colleges. That said you need to cast a wide net and heavily market yourself, get to know the head coaches, assistant coaches, and most importantly the recruiting coaches responsible for your geographical area. As others pointed out, you need to stay focused on your academics and make sure that your ACT is north of 30-31 (although some LECs super score the ACT). You need mostly A’s in AP courses and should take at least 3 APs in your senior year (the general rule of thumb is to take as many AP courses that you can score A in them). You also need to take your ACT (or SAT) test in early spring of your junior year (now), in time to have the score ready for upcoming summer camps (see below).</p>

<p>You need to make highlight films of your junior and senior years (take a look at the [Video</a> Software & Apps for Coaches, Athletes & Recruiters - Hudl](<a href=“http://www.Hudl.com%5DVideo”>http://www.Hudl.com) site if your school coach has already signed up, it is the easiest way to produce your highlights). You should also fill out the “athletic recruit” form on every DIII college (that you are interested in) web site before you sign up for their one-day summer camp. This is one way for the DIII college coaching staff to build their recruit data base (they have access to other data bases as well). Once you send your information to the colleges, you will receive “form responses” and often get “updates” from the coaches. A typical NESCAC “helmet sport” recruit data base has as many as 1,500 names to start with, and they end up actively focusing on selected 60+ per “helmet sport”. They go from 60 to even a lesser number of “spots”, “supports”, and LL (in case of IVY only). It is a grueling and long process but you just need to stick with it if you are utterly determined to use football as your “hook”. At the end of the day the NESCAC coaches are looking for highly motivated and great students that can equally play well on the field! It is not the other way around for these very selective colleges.
Sign up for the NE, Harvard and individual LEC/IVY one-day sessions (or other applicable LAX camps - as many as you can afford). This is your marketing opportunity but you need to be physically, skill-wise, academically, and mentally ready for these camps. It takes a lot of effort and coordination to hit these summer camps. As luck would have it, lots of enthused parents and student-athletes leverage the summer before senior year as an opportunity to visit colleges and these sports camps. These camps are sometimes oversubscribed but this is how you get noticed by the coaches. You need to prepare your “profile” (consists of resume with your picture on it, transcript with list of courses you will be taking in your senior year, ACT/SAT test score, and AP test scores if available). Once on a college campus, make sure you introduce yourself to the coaching staff, have a 15-20 seconds introductory speech ready (your “elevator speech”), hand out your “profile” and show energy, enthusiasm, and as much team work as you can during your short visit. Your parents also need to get to know these coaches and start a dialogue (as they say, “it takes a village”). Once the camp is over, send a “thank you note” to the coaching staff and identify with them how much you learned, and how you feel about their program. Now you are ready to send periodic “updates” in response to the emails that you will receive from college coaches (see above paragraph). Your periodic emails should include a line, or two about your most recent academic progress, a new highlight, some news about your football games, and how much you are looking forward to be part of the “College XYZ football program next year”. Make sure you have your thumb nail photo as part of your signature block. All these coaches are overwhelmed with emails and voice mails. A photo will jug their memory about who you are (every little thing counts).</p>

<p>You can also be invited for a “recruit day” before and/or after your one-day camps. Some colleges (like Middlebury) will go to different camps but they don’t have a camp of their own. Instead, they invite some student-athletes to attend their “recruit day” and this is when they put out a very nice “dog and pony” show to further their recruiting process. If they are interested in you, they may ask for your commitment and encourage you to apply ED. (Please read the next paragraph for details about how to qualify their interests).</p>

<p>Now the waiting game starts around late August (for football and Spring of Junior year for LAX). Coaching staff will start to contact student-athletes that fit their needs. Of course, by now you should have a good feel about the level of interest that you received during one-day camps, recruit days, or simply your visits. Be aware that if they are really interested they ask for your stats (GPA, ACT, SAT, AP scores, number of AP courses, and transcripts) for a pre-read at the Admissions office. Hopefully, you are within the academic range and very little support will be required. Otherwise, coaches have to get involved and start cashing in their “equity” (normally reserved for top notch athletes that are on the border line of academic range of acceptance at NESCAC colleges). Also be aware, that most good coaches keep their cards close to the vest and don’t volunteer too much information about where you stand on their priority list, unless you are on top of it. That said you need to understand when and under what circumstances they will send your academic information to the Admissions office for a pre-read. Again, most of the coached don’t commit to you unless they get thumbs up from the Admissions. They equally encourage you to do ED I because they have the most pull. However, you need to ask probing questions about the coaches’ track record and their past performance with the Admission office before you commit to any ED. Do some research, talk to other athletes and get a feel for the head coach’s batting average. Most good NESCAC coaches have 80%+ average. Last but not least, your head coach may ask a couple of probing questions from you to gage your “true” commitment. Questions such as: how do you feel about studying abroad for a semester, or two? Is your application ready? Has anyone reviewed your essays? Be careful about the first question because most coaches want their student-athletes’ on the campus in fall semester for football. If you get through the last set of hurdles and you commit, your head coach will equally make a commitment to get your application through the ED process. This is just verbal (at NESCAC colleges), don’t expect anything in writing, and this is how it is (welcome to the real world of uncertainty)! Also, make sure that you read the college web site information carefully. Some colleges “recommend” having an interview and that basically means that you SHOULD have an interview. Don’t take this lightly just because you are a student-athlete. If you are going to commit to any college and submit your ED, and you need financial aid, remember that you also need to get your financial aid application ready by the ED deadline. You also need to remember that you won’t have an opportunity to compare what different colleges will offer if you decide on the ED route.
Now comes the ED deadline of mid-November and you are about to submit your application. Some student-athletes think that because there is a “favorable” pre-read and the coach really wants her/him that means that they are “in”. Well, the ultimate decision will be made by the Admissions office and the committee that reads your application materials. Remember that these are very selective colleges and there is no shortage of qualified applicants waiting at their door steps. Do yourself a favor and work on your essays as if you don’t have any athletic “hook”. You submit your application and you think you are done, but not exactly! Although, you need to have a fall back plan with your application in a stand-by mode for other colleges in case your ED does not pan out (remember that every decent college has a “supplemental essay” on top of the usual “common application essays” and it takes time to get it right). Work on your non-football applications as soon as you submit your ED. You hope for the best and plan for the worst! You will only have SIX weeks to prepare all your applications, and this is your Plan B (hopefully you won’t need it). Also, stay in touch with your NESCAC recruiting coach during this process. You need to be your own advocate and demonstrate independent thinking, continuous updates, follow through, energy, and most importantly enthusiasm for your next college of choice. Ask your recruiting coach to follow up with the Admissions office and find out if there is anything above and beyond what you submitted that may be helpful for them to properly evaluate you. Remember that you are driving this bus! As you may have read on the CC, there are a number of cases where a student-athlete thought s/he is “in” but the opposite happened. To hedge your bets, don’t burn bridges with other schools that have an interest in you but be honest with them because honesty will go a long way in this process. </p>

<p>The next waiting period starts after you submit your ED application to your number one college of choice but you still have some work ahead of you! If there is one (or more) school that was trying to recruit you (and they also did a favorable pre-read), let their coaches know about your decision and stay in touch with them. These coaches have been around the block a few times and know exactly what you are going through. That does not mean that they will keep a slot open for you indefinitely but the coaches are in the same position as you, and they are trying to get their recruits’ commitment at the same time. College coaches also lose good student-athletes to competing colleges (or Admissions office denies the coaches’ request for admission), so in a way it is like a game of “musical chair” (there are a finite number of high quality/high caliber/skillful student-athletes with limited football slots at NESCAC colleges – you can apply this logic to any sports and any college)! </p>

<p>Now comes the mid-December time and you will hear from your ED college of choice. Hopefully you are accepted (and if you need financial aid, you get what you need). If you are not accepted, or you don’t get the financial package that you need, then get in touch with other coaches that may still have an interest in you (there may be an opportunity to do EDII, or RD with other football colleges). If that is not the case, just don’t worry about it and execute your plan B by firing off your applications to other (non-football) colleges that you are interested in. There are only two weeks between 12/15 (when most ED acceptance/rejections/deferred news comes out) and when most RD, or EDII applications are due on 1/1. You are in charge of your destiny and can’t afford to miss the opportunity for RD elsewhere if your ED does not work out. That is, you can’t afford to be “down and angry”! This is not end of the world but rather a new beginning after the NESCAC recruiting process is over. Imagine you are playing football and you just lost one game. Dust yourself off and get ready for the next game. Good luck!</p>

<p>This was such a great response! Though I see it appears to be more football related I think a lot of your information applies to several sports. Bottom line it seems is nothing is a sure thing, I guess. Still learning as we muddle along ourselves. It is an exciting but very nerve wrecking process.</p>

<p>My son is also a D3 prospect and has narrowed his list down to about 5 schools,any which he would love. I think 2 are really good matches and 3 are slight reaches, so we will see.</p>

<p>Question- is the NESCAC considered to be the harder division to get into for a student athlete? I am staring to read/hear more and it seems so competitive. Just curious, besides the ivy league of course.</p>

<p>And momoffour how did things work out with your son? My son is in the same boat, but things are starting to narrow down, thankfully! This is an exhausting process.</p>

<p>LAX players from the Boston area verbally commit to Ivy/NESCAC/Patriot schools early, all the time. I noticed this month alone, that 3 student athletes from the same MA public HS LAX team have verbally announced their intentions to play for NESCAC schools in the Fall of 2014. </p>

<p>Rather than announcing they are ‘verbally committing’ as has been customary, the wording has been changed to say “…(name) has committed to the admissions process at Bowdoin College/Williams College/Tufts University.” </p>

<p>I suspect that is the carefully scripted choice of words of the program’s coach - who is well aware of the remote possibility for things to fall through for these student athletes - but who also has a great reputation working with coaches to place his players within the Conference.</p>

<p>[Medfield’s</a> Bissell chooses Williams - Boston High School Blog - ESPN Boston](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/25269/medfields-bissell-chooses-amherst]Medfield’s”>Medfield's Bissell chooses Williams - ESPN - Boston High School Blog- ESPN)</p>

<p>[Medfield’s</a> Treiber chooses Tufts - Boston High School Blog - ESPN Boston](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/25384/medfields-treiber-chooses-tufts]Medfield’s”>Medfield's Treiber chooses Tufts - ESPN - Boston High School Blog- ESPN)</p>

<p>[Medfield’s</a> Crowell chooses Bowdoin - Boston High School Blog - ESPN Boston](<a href=“http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/25178/medfields-crowell-chooses-bowdoin]Medfield’s”>Medfield's Crowell chooses Bowdoin - ESPN - Boston High School Blog- ESPN)</p>

<p>Incidentally my son got offered two spots in one day! Talk about feast or famine :slight_smile: He has a few days to decide and is mulling it over. He is very excited (and so am I).</p>

<p>Just to clarify, he got a thumbs up from both admissions and they said as long as things remain as they are (academically) he is good to go with I presume the coaches support. These two coaches have been behind him in a supportive way so fingers crossed till Dec!</p>

<p>Mary – at least these kids are rising seniors. One of my son’s classmates just " committed" to a D1 lax program as a rising sophomore. I don’t blame the kids ( this school isn’t an IVY but it’s a great school) , but in IMO it’s a process out of hand and bordering on just plain wrong.</p>

<p>The schools that comprise the NESCAC are hard to get into, just like the schools that comprise the Ivy League are hard to get into. Within each league, there are harder schools to get into (Harvard, Princeton, Amherst, Williams) and easier schools to get into (Brown, Cornell, Trinity, Bates, Connecticut College). I think it’s fair to say that the bottom of the Ivy League is a tougher admit than the bottom of the NESCAC. But all 11 NESCACs and all 8 Ivies are superb institutions with loads of smart kids and challenging professors.<br>
I think the NESCAC is unique among D3 athletic conferences in that ALL the schools are top-tier academically. Other conferences aren’t as consistently high.</p>