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I REALLY want to go out-of-state (nyc, chicago, new orleans, or miami) but all the tuitions at all the colleges that I’m looking at are really expensive.
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<p>I can completely empathize with your situation.</p>
<p>You might want to look at McGill. It’s an academically solid school located in Montr</p>
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Take3–my liberal, left-leaning, free-thinking son didn’t have any trouble fitting in at UIUC–and they gave nice scholarships to make tuition the same as instate.</p>
<p>But being a CS student, he was undoubtedly in a group with its own subculture…
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<p>For someone who fits into the CS/Engineering subculture or another subculture, then yes, UIUC might work for them. It’s important to note that even then, you’ll be mostly limited to this subculture. UIUC is very cliquey.</p>
<p>If someone doesn’t fit into either the mainstream or one of the subcultures, UIUC might be socially isolating. In my case, I didn’t fit into the mainstream but, being mostly right-brained, didn’t fit into the CS/Engineering subculture either. UIUC was socially isolating for me.</p>
<p>Minnesota is just 4k more than in-state</p>
<p>Yes, it looks like OOS costs to attend U of M- Twin Cities is $24,000 (includes tuition and fees, room and board, and a generous $2,000 allowance for books and personal expenses. That is indeed a good deal, quite comparable to the SUNYs and you get to attend a Big Ten university as a bonus. Of course, it’s mighty cold up there in the Twin Cities, just like it is in Buffalo and Binghamton. (Maybe that’s why they are bargains?)</p>
<p>As others have mentioned, the University of Missouri-Columbia has one of the very best journalism departments in the nation. They used to give good aid for National Merit Finalists. I would inquire as to merit aid. My daughter graduated from Mizzou in journalism. My other daughter graduated from Indiana University in Bloomington. She received OOS merit aid. IU is reported to have a very good journalism dept and they have a wonderful campus.</p>
<p>Canadian universities=great idea!</p>
<p>Third the Canadian suggestion, but do be careful about class sizes. Intro classes of 400-500 are not uncommon at McGill/Toronto/UBC.</p>
<p>Certainly you should explore all options, including out-of-state and privates. However, if your D is only a sophomore, remember that everything - and I mean EVERYTHING - that she says she wants now could change.</p>
<p>My wife and I are W&M grads (I was in-state, she was out-of-state) and live in Delaware now. Our S is a junior at W&M. He, too, hopes to go into journalism. When he started looking at colleges, he was adamant that only a journalism degree would do, so W&M was out. The trouble is, he found that he liked small to medium sized schools and far fewer of them offer journalism. Eventually, he conceded that going to a really good school, majoring in English (or history or government/political science), and working on the student paper (if it was a good one) would also work. He did apply to seven schools, got into five of them, and of the five, W&M was the only one without journalism. It was a close choice between W&M and Ithaca College (Park School of Communication there is amazing and he got a 1/2 tuition scholarship so it would have been less expensive than W&M OOS). So he went from “no how, no way” to W&M in the spring of his junior year to it was his top choice by the time acceptances came out. Officially, he is an English and anthropology major, but he is really majoring in The Flat Hat, the student paper. </p>
<p>Anyway, don’t automatically write off the Va state schools just because your D turns her nose up at them now. And, if your D should happen to decide she wants to go to the University of Delaware, why don’t you adopt my son and get him W&M tuition in-state, and I will adopt your daughter and get her UD tuition in-state? Seriously, the public options you have in Virginia are about the best in the country, with the possible exception of California.</p>
<p>Take3, Thanks for the support!</p>
<p>You kind of hit my situation right on the dot. I’m actually learning french and I like other cultures (which is why I considered new orleans). I’ve been watching this tv show called The Property Shop and its in Montreal and I thought about looking at some colleges there, but never ended up looking.</p>
<p>Once again, THANKS!</p>
<p>And we should keep this thread going…it gives us out-of-state wannabes some inspiration to keep looking around!</p>
<p>it seems a little ironic to me that you live in va but want to go oos, next to california, virginia has the best in-state schools, you really can’t go wrong with uva or w & m, and they are both ranked top 3 best value schools by princeton review, the prices are unbeatable, they are the the top two public universities in the nation that are the easiest to afford, given that you live in va you are taking a lot for granted right now…</p>
<p>If you receive at least $1,000 of “competitive” scholarship money, you qualify for in-state tuition at any Texas public college.</p>
<p>Texas Tech, in particular, is looking to dramatically grow its undergrad student body by 2012, and it’s pretty clear that much of that growth will come from out-of-state. No special application is required for merit $$; it’s awarded based on the application alone, and it’s automatic with a floor GPA/class rank plus ACT/SAT scores. See their website for details.</p>
<p>ThaRussian, I can understand it completely. DD wanted to get as far away from all the HS students around here that go to those schools. She wanted OUT. She wanted something new, someplace where they did not already have her “pegged”. Easier to explore being a new person if you aren’t meeting up with the old one. She has one friend, a little older, who is at her school that she only sees occasionally. She is quite happy with that.</p>
<p>I know you said no Virginia schools, but my niece wanted journalism and James Madison was high on her list. She ended up at University of South Carolina, which also has reasonable tuition and a good journalism program.</p>
<p>I think someone already posted this, but you should really look at Alabama (U of). Great communications/broadcast journalism programs and great scholarships for OOS.</p>
<p>tanyacox – if you D’s plan is to go to CC in VA first, she may change her mind after two years. One plus for VA students is if they graduate with an assoc degree from a VA CC they can go to VA state school and have their gened count for the VA 4-year university gened. If she received an associates degree from a VA CC then goes to a school in another state there is no guarantee that she will only need two more years to complete her degree. </p>
<p>She may be in a different mind frame in 3 years than she is now. :)</p>
<p>If she does still want to look out of state for journalism… she may want to look at Syracuse (although a private university). They have a top notch journalism school. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>We’re looking at Grove City, norht of Pittsburg. It’s a small Christian college with very low tuition.</p>
<p>I knew the VP and Provost, Dr. Ted Penar, of Grove City College in the 1980s when it was going through the process of going independent of the federal aid program. I am not socially conservative but I respect Grove City College for living by its principles even when it was not convenient. I remember Dr. Penar talking about it and it was clear that the college’s principles and mission were sincere. It has its own loan program and it has kept its tuition remarkably low. </p>
<p>That said, many people attracted by the affordable tuition find the socially and religiously conservative climate not to be a good fit. For those that do find it a good fit, it appears to be a great choice.</p>
<p>Really liked the you adopt mine and I’ll adopt yours suggestion for in-state tuition, K9Leader. Is there a thread on that? This could be a cottage industry.</p>
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I’ve been a journalist for 28 years and I can tell you that the school with one of the best reps is the University of Missouri (no, I didn’t graduate from there.)</p>
<p>That said, I would think long and hard before I paid out of state money for a journalism degree. The future job market is really unclear. I know award winning journalists who can’t find work right now. One woman won the DuPont one day and was laid off the next.
Virginia does have some great colleges and very good prices.</p>
<p>By any chance, does you daughter want to go into photojournalism? If so, she can get in state tuition through something called the Academic Common Market at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green.</p>
<p>Pattikaye</p>
<p>Academic Common Market is a gem. I know someone getting in-state tuition at UMD because our flagship, UDel, doesn’t offer the specific concentration of Environmental Science she’s majoring in.</p>