<p>Providence isn't exactly a top level school.</p>
<p>You're right, many colleges are moving away from the SAT.
To the ACT.
There are, and will always be, standardized tests.</p>
<p>to the topic question. i think people with high GPAs are naturally smart :D, and people with low GPAs and do well on their SATs just study a lot.</p>
<p>koolcrud...who are you to say that? It is in every way a top level school, as are all of the 361 Best Colleges listed in the Princeton Review. You people in here just go off names. Whatever is the most thrown around name you think is good. Harvard, Princeton, Brown, Columbia, MIT OOOOH!!! OMG OMG! Those aren't the only good colleges. They simply have popularity that overpowers others. I'll bet most of you don't even do research about the college and just apply to the big names. All you book worms think if you aren't attending an Ivy, you aren't in anything special. Not everyone devotes their lives to numbers and books. There is a balance you people don't have between education and social lives. When you get into college your cute little stats you boast all go out the window. What now?</p>
<p>Also, some of us want to have fun in college going hand in hand with the work. Go to one of those Ivy's and you won't even have time to relax. Everyone is rediculously competitive and cry if they get 1 point lower on their test. I would prefer a more laid back college where I can have fun and get work done all around intellectual people. I would rather be around witty and street smart people than book smart anyday.</p>
<p>Just because Providence isn't the most highly selective school doesn't mean its bad, he never said that. He was just implying that the most selective colleges still do look at the SATs.</p>
<p>Exactly, thank you VertigoFrog. And newyitty, please do not act like you know anything about me.</p>
<p>That's changing...even as you said. Hypocrite. Do you realize he can't even get into Providence? The realistic thing he can do is attend a state school with a GPA like that, or a no name. He really thinks he's getting into Georgetown with an 85 lmao</p>
<p>koolcrud- you act like Providence isn't even on your level, yet you would not even be considered there. In NY you may not even get into some state schools.</p>
<p>Sigh... Do a deeper check... I've already been accepted at Bard.</p>
<p>EDIT: Then again, I guess that kind of reasoning could be expected from someone who scored 1350/2400 on the SAT... I scored a 1350 once. Of course it was out of 1600. And I was in 8th grade.</p>
<p>Haha...thank god the SAT doesn't measure intelligence. It measures speed, accuracy and how well you can take a test. If you're so smart...you should've paid attention to your GPA. And that 1350/1600 in 8th grade is complete garbage. No one believes you. And last I checked...Bard was known for drugs and unruly students that don't want much of an education. Not for being prestigious academically you fool. Don't even try me, you'll never win. In less than a month or so if you appled EA for Georgetown, and get accepted, what does your SAT score do for you then? Nothing, once everyone is in a college, it means absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>And actually the 1350 was my very first time taking it. My best is a 1700. Then again..who really cares about SAT scores anymore except snobby Ivy League colleges?</p>
<p>Your intelligence overwhelms me. First of all, do you not see the "edit" button at the bottom of your posts? That's so that if you wish to "edit" your post, for example to add something, you can do it. You don't need to make a new post. I should've paid attention to my GPA. There were some deep and personal problems going on in my life that I don't wish to share or use as a crutch. Unfortunately I was not able to devote the amount of time to school that I would have liked to. Luckily, that has changed now and my grades are much higher than, say, yours.</p>
<p>I do not see the reason to lie on an internet forum. Someone who got a 2350 though was likely quite capable of a 1350/1600 in 8th grade. Bard College is also one of your prized "361" schools. It has a discerning and fantastic admissions process, hence their low acceptance rate. Then again, I wouldn't think that the person who called Providence a "top college" to know much about "prestige". I personally don't look at prestige in my schools. But if you do, I'm sure Siena will be your cup of tea...</p>
<p>If I get into Georgetown, it will mean that my SAT score contributed significantly to my acceptance. That would be more than I could ever ask of it. If you wish to continue this, I'm more than happy to embarass you repeatedly.</p>
<p>well this argument is getting quite interesting.....</p>
<p>Someone asked me way back on this thread how I could get A in A level math, yet a 660 on SAT1 math.
It was my first SAT, and maybe I made careless mistakes. What sucks is I gotta do SAT2s in January and cant do SAT1s again...<em>sigh</em></p>
<p>All I know is that the SATs have measured my potential perfectly.
I got a 580 in math, and I have an iffy math history-- probably getting a C in Calculus this semester.
I got a 770 in CR and an 800 in writing, I've always gotten A's in my lit classes and can write a good paper. </p>
<p>Your assertion that the SAT doesn't measure intelligence obviously comes from insecurity and anger about your own scores.
"What?! That's not fair! Why I can't have that cookie!?! NOOOOO!
...FINE!.. Whatever.. I didn't want that cookie anyway..
It's a gay cookie and anyone who eats it is gay..."</p>
<p>newyitty, you sound like an exasperated child when you post. I can't understand your philosophy of bashing an SAT score that is infinitely better then your own. Providence is a good school. A top school?.........No. Instead of spending your time berating the accomplishments of others, please direct a bit more attention to the things that matter, like improving your speed, accuracy, and test taking abilities: none of which you appear to excel at.</p>
<p>I agree that SAT measure your potential. If you can't use simple logic to solve the SAT Maths and Reading section , then what'll you do at college...And the SAT being biased "It's taken in English and it's hard for non-English speakers." In US colleges, you're going to study in English, If you can't give a simple exam in English , how will you understand the books in college ? I'm an international from a country where not many people speak English....</p>
<p>And for the silly mistake thing, you can make a couple of simple mistakes and go from a 800 to a 750 or even 700..But how can you call getting around 600, making silly mistakes. Going from 800 to a 630 needs around 10 mistakes in Maths ....and that's a lot...</p>
<p>And everybody stop complaining about the SATs. After you graduate you'll have to take the GRE or the GMAT, the lawyers have to take an exam , the doctors. So, there is really no point in talking about the SATs...</p>
<p>COMFY: For most people,YES, the SAT1 does measure potential. But for some, it does not measure potential. Go to the first page of this thread and look at the profiles of the 2 students with SAT1s of 1910 and 1940. They were NOT legacy/urm/athletes/etc, and did not have mind-boggling ECs,yet both got accepted to Harvard. And if you care to look at the Harvard regular decision 2010/2009 forums, you can find many similar cases. That's a concrete example, and to me that says a lot about the policy of ivies regarding SATs. The way I see it is: (gpa+Sat2s+teacher recs+rank) VS (SAT1)---It's obvious what wins out in this match-up!</p>
<p>Also, the fact that about half of 2400s are rejected, yet 25% below 2100 is accepted says something! This is what the most selective colleges say(this is a direct quote from MIT's dean of admissions) "The SAT1 is the least important thing after GPA,Advanced courses,grades in advanced courses, class rank and SAT2."</p>
<p>So by showing that people with below-2000 can get into harvard, am I giving undue hope to people with low SAT1s (that they have a chance at the ivies)?</p>
<p>Not really!This is the way you should look at it: If your GREAT gpa+rank+AP grades+SAT2s+reasonable ECs point to the fact that your SAT1 scores are not deserved, then they WILL ignore the SAT1s! </p>
<p>Someone in this thread said the best colleges want very smart "2200+" people in their classes, so that everyone is very witty, and so that the non-intelligent person doesnt stay in his room studying all the time. THAT'S BS!
If the person managed to do some ECs in HS while still getting good grades, but simply not very intelligent at the SATs, then ALL colleges will admire this person's extraordinary work ethic, and will admit this person!
AND, best of all, this will leave his many naysayers at collegeconfidential jaw-dropped and saying "how the ***k did that 1930 SAT kid get in, and me with my 2300 did not???"</p>
<p>Get my point people?!</p>
<p>TWO people who got into Harvard is NOT evidence. Those two people don't prove anything about the SATs except that it IS possible to get in with below-average SAT scores. But we already knew that. It's just not at all likely.</p>