@Mom2aphysicsgeek I plan on going back to Tuscaloosa in April to do just that
UA business school has a pretty strong reputation historically, and I am sure UA has not allowed it to ‘slip’.
You can have internship or co-op opportunities in your Chicago area. UA is very proactive in working with companies with established programs. Since the school has initiated recruiting at a national level, there is more recognition of the school by companies in various areas. My DD is who contacted her internship employer - in the past they had a lot of AU interns, but recognize UA’s program and my DD’s capabilities.
The student is the product.Kelley’s selectivity gets a high stats group. UA Honors College has high stat kids, but a whole lot more capacity, along with some small, selective honors programs, and some larger ones (like emerging scholars and STEM MBA).
Do not ‘buy into’ the school’s reputation providing you the cost/benefit you are seeking.
There may be advantages in Honors College you can be part of.
My DD is working her tail off at UA double majoring in two civil engineering areas while part of STEM MBA (will have 4 graduate business classes done by completing UG and then the MBA sequence tailored for these students). This includes taking a 17.5 hours fall schedule along with doing Million Dollar Band - which is very demanding but is a fun activity.
The higher stat/presidential scholarship level students can do well at UA when they apply themselves.
There are students at every campus that fall into bad academic habits (like not going to class).
My DD’s internship company is an international company, with a very big presence across the US.
Don’t fall for the school marketing as making the $$ ‘worth it’. Yes I know how selective Kelley is and the reputation it has.
IU is my alma mater. Great school. Yes, beautiful campus, Bloomington’s great…
But Alabama is giving you full tuition?
Go to Alabama. Really, I cannot imagine that Indiana is that much better, really, than this other large state school that also, apparently, has so many high-achieving students because of the scholarships they give. Seriously, take the money and run to Alabama. Why on earth would you go into debt if you don’t have to?! I personally don’t believe IU is worth taking out any debt at all if you’ve got full tuition paid for at Alabama.
And the weather will be better!
That’s just my opinion. And I have fond memories of Indiana…
It also sounds like you already love Alabama.
Go against the grain and go to IU. Lots of Bama cheerleaders on this page. IU is the better school, especially for business.
Choose Indiana.
I was looking at post #31.
Just not true!!
http://kelley.iupui.edu/cpo/employers/salary-statistics/
http://kelley.iu.edu/UCSO/Statistics/salaryStats/page40582.html
My son gets final interviews on just about every application for Internships. Still in the weeding out phase, just on our side and not the employers, thanks to Kelley.
My son will have his choice of jobs,
Because that figure includes the entire student body. Honors college is way higher.
Easy to say when it’s not your money. If cost is a factor…
Payscale is bs. Indiana places lots of grads in high cost cities. Most Alabama grads are hired in the south, where salaries and cost of living are lower. Huge grain of salt needed when referencing Payscale.
This brings up another thing to think about. Would I be able to get jobs amor internships in Chicago if I went to Alabama? I know this sounds ironic since I would be spending a lot of extra money on IU, but then I could live at home and work nearby to save money
I sure hope the Kelley School of Business is the magical elixir that it’s touted to be, given the number of young people going into huge debt to attend there.
Just seems crazy-risky to me, especially given that a full-tuition scholarship is being offered at another equally well-known university.
I have nothing against Alabama, but I wish the Alabama boosters on this site would show a little perspective. Kelley is a much stronger business school than Alabama (Culverhouse) and it has a national reputation. If you don’t like payscale, then look at all the rankings - Bloomberg, Businessweek, US News etc. Kelley is inevitably one of the top schools mentioned, while Alabama is much much lower ranked. Chardo is correct - most Alabama grads are hired in the South whereas Kelley grads work all over.
The money issue is of course incredibly important, but if IU is at all affordable, I would choose it (to be honest, I’m not exactly clear how much Kelley would cost the OP - how much of a scholarship did you get and what are the remaining costs?).
50, It's a given that IU Kelley is higher-ranked and has the better reputation.
However, OP would need to fund at least 40k, maybe more, out of his own pocket, with loans, summer jobs, etc.
Or he could take the full-tuition offer from UA and graduate debt-free.
That’s the dilemma.
@midatlmom total costs are $44,000 per year and so far, I have received the $11,000 (annually) presidential scholarship. I am still waiting for my final package including General scholarships and other financial aid. My parents can pay around $12-$15,000
To the OP, Indiana resident here. Perhaps it has changed, but IU Bloomington historically awarded all merit at the same time, and financial aid to an OOS student may include a lot of loans. What does IU Net Price Calculator say about what the family is expected to pay – as opposed to what they feel they can pay. Is there a gap? How large? Looks like OP is looking at perhaps a $15,000 gap per year to go to IU.
IU Kelley does an excellent job marketing itself, especially to draw in OOS full-pay students. As I understand, the Investment Banking track is super competitive to get into once at Kelley, and no one is a sure thing, if that is what someone is interested in.
It’s late for me, but isn’t the gap for IU more like $18-$21K? Not sure what “General Scholarships” are at IU, but you are hoping for additional merit aid? Are you referring to the competitive scholarships?
@midatlmom hit the nail on the head. Way too many Bama cheerleaders on here just blindly telling every student to choose their school even when the other school is clearly the better choice…
@LBad96 LOL! You know, a couple of yrs ago I was kinda turned off of Bama by this website. Too much ooze. But, my ds and I toured, we met with the dept, he sat in on a class, and he was accepted into CBH. He was hooked. After almost 2 yrs there, I know why the posters are fans…the university loves its students and they are supported in their goals. Our ds has had nothing but fabulous opportunities at Bama and has been offered some really great ones outside of the university as well. It isn’t hollow praise.
If $$ is an issue, finances are often the driver of the decision. Our children face a financial limitation similar to @screenname77. That amt is essentially room and board plus books and travel. Do you know what it is like to try to fund your entire college ed on $12,000-15,000/yr? It is not definitely not easy. Ranking is subservient to cost. The goal is to find the best option at the lowest price. The OP has an affordable option that has its own merits. It may not be Kelley, but it also won’t leave the student struggling to fund UG and still provides a good education and opportunities.
http://culverhouse.ua.edu/about/fast_facts/
This option is should not be dismissively denigrated when a student has a valid concern about funding their education.
FWIW, I believe all students should meet with whatever dept they are considering. My kids have met with quite a few depts that there was no way they wanted to be part of them. They have found ranking alone does not assess what they will be offered outside of the classroom to help them achieve their goals. That matters to them a lot. I have no first hand knowledge of Culverhouse. The OP needs to follow through and find out on his/her own if it meets his/her needs.
I can state that the university in general is very supportive of its students. That school within the uni, however, I personally know nothing about except for the MIS program. My ds has several friends in that program and their experience is similar to his in his dept.
@Mom2aphysicsgeek - why don’t you also share the rankings for Kelley?
@ClarinetDad16 Bc my post was about what the student knows they can afford.
According to my math, 44-11-12= $21,000>$18,000/yr at this point. That is $80,000 in loans vs. debt-free.
Does your student have to find a college within a low budgetary constraint? $$ is a huge obstacle. People can be dismissive of the hurdle, but it doesn’t make it any less real for the OP. Ranking doesn’t matter if you can’t afford it.
Based on the OP’s numbers, adjusted for travel costs, Bama costs about $15k a year, IU $25k (maybe less after fin aid).
So the difference is $10k a year which is easily covered with the student loan and summer and or work study.
Take money out of the equation. And the cheerleading for the football team.
Which school will be best to launch a successful career?
One school has a b-school which is ranked near Cornell and other top schools.
The other is in Alabama.