Unless that major scholarship still costs $60,000 out of pocket or more which many cannot afford…
Actually I thought the posts in that thread were fair and reasonable. Consensus, even among the “Alabama boosters”, was that Minnesota was the better choice for that student. The biggest Alabama booster of them all, the most prolific poster on all of CC, is also well known for fairly recommending other schools when more appropriate.
Indiana is a far better choice. You will have great opportunities presented to you at Kelley. It’s a phenomenal program. It’s ranked that high for a reason. Alabama’s 5 year graduation rates would concern me. You would have to take that extra year into consideration for cost.
I grew up and attended college in southern Indiana (IU, in fact!) Believe me when I tell you, aside from accents and weather, there’s not much cultural difference between AL and the southern part of Indiana. And probably the same amount of kids from Chicago at each school.
Thanks for joining, but you might want to read the whole thread. This particular student shouldn’t care about 5 year graduation rates, as he will easily graduate in 4. Indiana may be the better choice for this person, but that’s not why.
@Chardo for once, they conceded defeat. Their noble cause doesn’t work all the time.
@txmom16 exactly. 100% nailed it. Bama isn’t as good as my school, I don’t know how it can even compare with IU.
@BeeDAre I’m not sure I would have really loved the Midwest regardless tbh, but I am sure it’s not bad. Besides the fact that IU is the better school by a full star, I would choose IU over Bama for the sole fact that I’m not a fan of the state of Alabama.
Roll Hoosiers!
@LBad96 >>>>>> “Bama isn’t as good as my school,…” so since you brought it up…
Your school - not nationally ranked by USNWR, #16th best Regional University (South), #191 ranked Undergrad Business Program. Could not find any information on job placement from their college of business. Maybe you can? If so, please post info and a link.
Alabama - #96 ranked National University, #43 top public school, #61 ranked Undergrad Business Program. I have already posted their most recent job placement information (post #81).
Again, just one source of data and wouldn’t make a college decision based on it entirely but it’s obnoxious for you to say that “Bama isn’t as good as my school,…”
@ClareinetDad16, OP has a FULL TUTION scholarship to U of Alabama. !!!
Why does OP need CC?
And the only cost for OP is the r and b at UA which he said is 12k a year - and his parents are paying for all of it.
Are you trying to argue that his parents paying 60k in cash - that they apparently already have - over 4 years is worse than OP and his parents going into debt?
Are you saying it will better for him to go to CC then transfer into IU? Because, no, that’s still more expensive.
If he goes to CC, he will lose either scholarship and be full-pay at either school. So, let’s say he goes to CC and for some insane reason, turns down full tuition at UA; then he transfers to IU. He will be FULL-PAY at IU then and still qualify only for loans.
Those two years at IU will cost OP and his family (and this is not accounting for the tuition increase that is bound to happen) 88 thousand! (Likely more, w/tuition increases)
OR -
Pay 60k total for all four years at a well-known and respected four-year university.
@Big10Grad don’t fall into the trap of elitism. Top 20 regionally is better than top 100 nationally. Not to mention that USNWR don’t know what they’re talking about when they only rank us 16th. We should be at the very least a Top 5 regional school, as we are better than many schools that are ranked ahead of us. I’d vouch for Christopher Newport University (CNU) to be in the top 10 as well.
Darn, just saw my typo in #101 – IN parent, not TN.
@LBad96 >>>>> “Not to mention that USNWR don’t know what they’re talking about when they only rank us 16th. We should be at the very least a Top 5 regional school, as we are better than many schools that are ranked ahead of us.”
Not sure how you decided Top 20 regionally is better than top 100 nationally. Schools are only on one list or the other. #1 on National list is Princeton, Stanford tied at #4, MIT #7, etc. Tops for the Regionals are Villanova, Elon, Creighton, and Trinity. Great schools but I suspect most would pick the first 3 over any of those regionals.
And the source/data points of “your” ranking is? Any luck getting the job placement data as well? Is #61 Undergrad Business ranking better than #191 or is USNWR drastically missing something there too?
@LBad96 Obsession with star ratings and rankings (arbitrary numbers devised by companies trying to sell publications) over actual facts based on experience is disingenuous, and in your case, a bit hypocritical.
@Chardo @Big10Grad my star ratings are, I’d like to think, a bit more accurate than USNWR’s rankings. I compile all the data I can, compute all the data together (acceptance rate, 6-year grad rate, average accepted student stats, student reviews etc) and average it out to make a decision on the Overall Desirability Rating. UNCW’s ODR is an 82; Bama’s is a 78.
I meant top 20 regionally is better than barely making top 100 nationally…come on, you can’t possibly have failed to decipher what I said?? The only difference between the two is that regionals don’t offer as many doctorate programs. To say that Alabama is better than UNCW is flat-out incorrect.
Oh, and I know of someone who’s transferring from Bama to UNCW. Considering we’re going to March Madness (among other things), she’s made an absoutely fantastic choice.
Please don’t feed the college kid’s inflated ego
@LBad96 I am glad that you like your school. When you state in a public forum that it it is clearly “better” than another school that is obnoxious. When you have 0 stats to support the claim you also look foolish.
My point with the regional numbers is that there are 4 regions so 4x20=80 which is close to 100. So if those top 80 regional schools are as good as the 100 best national schools then it would make sense that any of the regional top 4 would be similar to the national top 4 or so. I don’t think any of those regional top 4 are better than the #7 national school and we could even go deeper into that list. Not sure where they would show up on your “ranking”.
Would be curious to see the data you are using for UNCW and Bama. Feel free to post it.
So your star rankings are, literally, “your” star rankings. Thanks for clarifying. I like using as fact the opinions of a college kid at a directional state school for B students.
@Chardo Every student needs to be aware of a school with a 4 year graduation rate of 66%
Fixed it for ya
Chardo - As to your post #121, I think you’re reading that thread through Bama colored glasses. What I read, as neither a UA booster nor an opponent, was a lot of Bama boosters trying to find some way, whether it be suggesting that the OP try and get UA to match the UM offer or suggesting that Alabama has better employment prospects or more large companies, to give the OP a reason to choose UA. In that particular case, there really wasn’t a reason to pick UA over UM, other than possibly weather.
But I agree that we’ve gotten in the weeds here and there’s no need to revisit these points.