https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgsO2JfWZCE
The recent new graduate drinking incident, attrition rate, and parental pressure and “teacher burnout” were also talked about.
Hmmm… I thought 'd found some admission info that’s hard to come by (hence the “!”). Maybe I am wrong. Do you all already have those stats for boarding schools? If so, kindly point me to the sources please. I’d love to learn that bit even though it might not have any practical use. Isn’t this a forum about admissions? 180+ view and no one shows any “appreciation” for sharing that info, or cares to make a comment? I swear this forum has a somewhat weird vibe. Anyways, continue to enjoy the way you like!
Dude . . .
You linked a 45 minute video. I watched about 18 seconds and lost interest. This isn’t a scavenger hunt so if you know something, post it. Or post “go to 8:19 in the video” or something like that.
And yes, this forum has a weird vibe.
To be honest, I don’t remember the exact number myself. I recall It’s petty high. You make it sound like it’s my “responsibility” to extract it from a 45 minute video you don’t have time to watch and post it? Didn’t I post the source already? But judging from your response, I know many people may be like you - they don’t have the time to watch a 45 min video. Fine. We will wait for it to be posted somewhere.
There’s a difference between “data” and “information.” If you want to be helpful to the forum post information that is useful (and that you say is “revealed”).
Here’s an exercise: let’s say you’re going to brief your company CEO on something. Every SVP in the company is in the conference room. When it’s time to report your part of the meeting agenda which do you think is better for your career:
A. “Mr./Mrs./Ms. CEO, the alumni admit rate is 69%” or,
B. "Mr./Mrs./Ms. CEO I have a 45 minute video I’d like you to watch . . . "
Pretty easy, isn’t it? Be right, be brief, and be gone.
the data from the viedo (listen from 4:40 yourself)
Admit rate: 14%
yield rate: 84%
Admit rate for those with alumi parents: 58%
Admit rate for those with other family relations: 38%
I appreciate PA’s candor in releasing that information.
Bravo. No one wants to wade through a video. Better thread title would be “PA reports 58% Admit Rate for Applicants with Alum Parents.” Post the link and then synthesize any other interesting tidbits like @skitahoe shows. I don’t find those stats surprising.
I liked the video. Thx for posting. 
As for the vibe? Very helpful. Lot of lurkers, very few posters.
Thank you, @skotahoe. (Except you forgot to address it to Mr/Mrs/Ms CEO :)). Kidding aside, I apologize for doing a shoddy job in posting. I watched the video once while doing my chores so didn’t remember much detail except impressions on what had been talked about. I was hoping to use the collective effort of posters on this board to dig out those details. My bad. CC posters set high bars!
@panpacific I think it’s just that most of us are checking CC between doing real things, and we’re telling ourselves we’ll only look for a minute. No one sits down and gets all cozy with CC to watch a 45 minute video of statistics about some school they likely have nothing to do with.
You are welcome, @panpacific. Glad to help.
I appreciate you posted the video so I could dig out the interesting information.
Actually, the 58% vs. 14% surprised me. My first reaction was “gees, I should suggest my DC to matriculate at PA years ago”.
Yes, 58% is higher than I thought it’d be. Which means for the “general public”, the admit rate would actually be lower than 14% and could be significantly lower for certain over-represented group. On the other hand, PA is a school known for its academic rigor and competitiveness, so I suppose alumni would let their kids apply only when they believe their kids can handle the academics and independence expected there, so it must be a highly self selected applicant pool in the first place, which explains partially the high admit rate. The 38% admit rate for other school connections is encouraging too for those with siblings attending for example.
We can only speculate about the financial situations of legacies, but I’d bet most of them are not poor.
^^Yes, most of them shouldn’t be “poor”, but many graduates went on to careers such as teaching and social work, which means most likely they won’t be able to afford the $50/year tuition & fees. They will need financial aid just as some non-legacy applicants.
I just want to quickly jump in and say that the most sought-after boarding school demographic is domestic, full-pay, athletic kids. That cohort has been shrinking for several years now. The real reason admit rates are getting so dramatically low is that applications from China are skyrocketing. Applications from home-grown kids who need financial aid are also up.
Full paying, sporty American kids (with and without legacies) are accepted at rates much, much, much higher than the published admit rates. As far as “the general public” in boarding school admissions, it’s not only/really legacy status that grants the huge bonus to admit rates; it’s whether you need financial aid or not. Getting admitted as a Full-Pay, American, sporty kid is actually getting a little easier. On the other hand, the odds for even very smart kids who need financial aid, and for International kids from China are beyond grim.
People look at those elevated admit rates for legacies and what they don’t understand is that legacies as a group may have more of the other characteristics that facilitate admission.
@albion: What is your best estimate of the admit rate of domestic full pay pool for Andover? And what would it be for a less selective schoo, let’s say Kent school for example?
I wonder what the real admit rate would be without the NB claim because let’s face it : If a school claims to be NB, it’s a cattle call.
I think that this is a good point @Albion. The 58% vs. 14% comparison is probably not reflective of the legacy hook advantage. One would need to know the admit rate for full-pay domestic kid with unseen advantages (sports/EC’s/access to tutors and advisors) with and without the legacy hook. It would probably be less disparate.