Am I competitive at Harvard?

<p>My geographical Preferences:
Snow is required- I refuse to live somewhere without snow
Same goes for rain.
Definately has to have available fast food... not like everywhere but it has to be available
I would prefer an urban setting-which is why I am leaning towards Harvard over princeton at this point.
My main interests as of now are Law, Medicine, Philosophy, and possibly Economics...although these can always change.</p>

<p>I guess what I'm asking is which would be better for me, and
Would I have a better chance at Princeton then harvard?
Am I basically in the running at Harvard? At Princeton?
I love the Ivy league look and I love how Harvard and Princeton looks- its just that I kind of like the urban setting more</p>

<p>"My main interests as of now are Law, Medicine, Philosophy, and possibly Economics...although these can always change."</p>

<p>Amherst, Bowdoin, Swarthmore, UChicago,Macalester.</p>

<p>Bowdoin is not urban, but it is just beautiful - great food, too. Many very strong departments. Take a look at their website - it might just suit you. And it does have snow.</p>

<p>I meant this topic to be if Harvard was right for me and what my chances were- I'll keep those colleges in mind, I've only heard of Amherst(cousin is at it) and UChicago(friend is at it) as of recently, I'll look into the other three- but the last three questions on my last post still puzzle me- any input?</p>

<p>"I guess what I'm asking is which would be better for me, and
Would I have a better chance at Princeton then harvard?
Am I basically in the running at Harvard? At Princeton?"</p>

<p>I don't know which would be better. Have you visited either? You have to go with your gut to a certain extent. I think your chances might be a tad better at Princeton - but that's no reason to lock yourself into it if you don't like it. </p>

<p>The whole concept of 'in the running' at places like Harvard is a bit hard to define because Harvard is assembling a class, not just picking the kids with the highest scores. If you have shown yourself to be a strong academic candidate (and you have), of course you will be considered. But, remember that Harvard and Princeton reject about 9 out of 10 candidates, overall, and the odds are worse in regular decision.</p>

<p>I forgot Middlebury. Great school, lots of snow.</p>

<p>Haha, I'm not obsessed with snow, i just don't want a sunny christmas :)</p>

<p>And I get what you mean, thanks, I am visitng them soon- hopefully your "gut" theory is true :)
How clsoe is Princeton to the nearest large city?</p>

<p>NYC and Philly are each about 40 miles from Princeton</p>

<p>However, you would be (at least) competitive at any university in the United States.</p>

<p>Being in the midwest, particularly for example out of the New England/NY/NYC/northeast USA is generally a plus - except maybe for Chicago - which might be a slight plus</p>

<p>You should consider early admission at Harvard. as it doesn't restrict your ultimate choices</p>

<p>You're quite simply the strongest applicant nationwide I have heard of in the High School Class of 2011!!! Forget your less-than-perfect GPA, it just shows that you're not god and that's a good thing when they see an application like yours.</p>

<p>I love how every user that's posted so far besides footonthehill has conveyed almost a nonchalant attitude when assessing the OP's chances as if their own profile is as good as his/her and there are going to be thousands of similar kids applying to Harvard this year. Get real...</p>

<p>PERFECT ACT+AMAZING SAT/SAT II'S+PERFECT AP SCORES+NATIONAL LEVEL DEBATER+TASP+USAMO+VARSITY SPORT=VIRTUAL ACCEPTANCE!!!</p>

<p>Don't kid yourselves ladies and gentleman.</p>

<p>evil asian dictator...not everyone is displaying a nonchalant attitude; it is just very competitive to earn admissions at a place called Harvard. </p>

<p>"I love how every user that's posted so far besides footonthehill has conveyed almost a nonchalant attitude when assessing the OP's chances as if their own profile is as good as his/her and there are going to be thousands of similar kids applying to Harvard this year. Get real..."</p>

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<li><p>Have you seen my resume? I can assure you that mine is no worse than the OP's in terms of test scores, achievements, etc. </p></li>
<li><p>Yes, there are a heck load of people who are even better than us who apply to Harvard. Think about it, a guy I knew at TJ scored gold on IMO and was rejected, same as a heck load of USAMO winners. My cousin went to TASP and USAMO, she didn't get in. I'm not saying that he doesn't have a good chance, I'm just saying he isnt a "99%" as the ignorant foothill would say. </p></li>
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<p>Look at all the possible high level competitions- IMO, ICHO, IPhO, IBO, TASP, RSI, National Debate, Music- International Concertos, etc, atheletes who run 4:08 miles, rich legacies who donate, and a myriad other talented, unique and devoted individuals. Don't be so sure that just because one guy has amazing achievements does not mean other people don't.</p>

<p>Omnis-btw, I think you should apply EA to H if you like an urban environment because I have heard that cambridge/boston area is so much fun and a good college town overall, Pton is more quiet-like,</p>

<p>plus, your chances at H are pretty good :)</p>

<p>Definitely in! Perfect ACT, good grades (freshman year doesn't count as much), USAMO, TASP, captain of tennis, good writer, excellent AP scores, debate national qualifier, leader of 2 clubs...You are in for sure! USAMO and TASP along with the 36 ACT are your best hooks.
Disclaimer: I'm not an ignorant foothill and you shouldn't be either. When I say you're "in for sure" it doesn't mean anything really :D It just means that you have great chances.</p>

<p>kyzn, that's really uncalled for, we had different opinions, but that doesn't give you a legitimate reason to accuse me of being ignorant.</p>

<p>It is true though, as you said, that there are kids who were USAMO winners/IOI gold medalists/otherstuffwinners that don't get into Harvard. Personally, I was comparing this kid to the past dozen or so applicants from my school who got in in the past years or so, and he had better stats than almost all of them (except maybe GPA, which I admit to have not looked at very closely when first assessing the OP's chances). 99% is definitely an overestimate of his chances, but what I had hoped to accomplish was to encourage him to apply to Harvard, because while his stats are not as impressive as some people, we must still admit that his chances of admission are pretty good, as TASP + USAMO + Perfect ACT definitely puts him into the top 20% of the applicants for sure.<br>
Anyways, in the future, I hope you will refrain from calling other people "ignorant" just because they have different opinions.</p>

<p>"I have heard that cambridge/boston area is so much fun and a good college town overall, Pton is more quiet-like"</p>

<p>obviously kyzyn himself/herself is pretty ignorant...judging from this statement he hasn't even visited Harvard or Princeton yet he is calling the rest of us igorant (what he's saying in the statement may be right but from his word choice he is showing that he's never even been to harvard/princeton and is just basing his arguments on hearsay which is the real problem)</p>

<p>Foolonthehill, I want to sincerely apologize for calling you ignorant. I confused you with Reddune. Please accept my apology :)</p>

<p>As for comparing him with past school applicants, it is a reasonably but also unreasonably in some ways. Because I do not know what kind of school you attend and neither of that of the OP, i cannot say for sure. But schools like Exeter, Andover, Boston Latin, etc, can afford to have less qualified applicants go to H than others because of their rich legacy. Similarly, unknown public schools (like mine) only send 1 or 2 a year because of intense competition and not as strongly established connection.</p>

<p>"ICHO, IPhO, IBO"
What are these?
And, I think I'm still going to apply to Harvard early, I was just looking to see if I wouldn't get my hopes let down. Even if Harvard rejects me(:'() Hopefully Princeton or Yale likes me! :P Thanks for your all advice, I really appreciated it</p>

<p>Those are the national olympiads in chemistry, physics, biology. I have taken the physics and the chemistry ones. They are usually in the spring, so it is a little bit now. To make the study camps for any of them is a decent little hook on your application. If you are still interested in them in the spring, be sure to get your teacher to sign up for them.</p>

<p>and kyzan: no problem</p>

<p>just out of cursiosity, foolonthehill, where do you go to school and what year are u? I'm a junior myself :)</p>

<p>BTW, to respond to a discussion earlier in the thread, Stanford is also known not to pay attention to freshman year.</p>

<p>Ominlasher :</p>

<p>You would be happier where you want to apply first. Your choice to apply Harvard is right one. I said it all along you are very strong candidate. Go for it.</p>

<p>given the legacy, i'd be very surprised if you didn't get in</p>

<p>You know, I lost track of the legacy part. That is definately most useful applying SCEA. Let's upgrade your chances from a 6-sided die to somewhere between a 4-sided die and a coin. Not a shoe-in but not worth squandering the early application. </p>

<p>That said, if you are deferred, you will absolutely need to keep your grades as high as possible senior year.</p>

<p>unfortunately, I overlooked legacy, with that you are uber competitive.</p>