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I doubt if colleges routinely verify that sort of thing, any more than they verify your extracurriculars. But don't lie about anything on your app. If they found out through some unlikely fluke that you had lied, it could be grounds for immediate rejection, or even rescinding an acceptance.</p>
<p>They'd prob be more likely to check up on a 13 than a 2 though.</p>
<p>How would they check a two? The AMC results book only posts AIME scores of 6 or higher</p>
<p>You're right. My point was that if a college does attempt to verify scores it is probably more interested in making sure the higher scores are accurate than the lower scores because a 6, for example, is much more plausible than a 12.</p>
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<p>I've always wanted to do that :D</p>
<p>I'm thinking about getting "First Steps for Math Olympians" by Douglas Faires :
<a href="http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Books/AoPS_B_Item.php?page_id=52%5B/url%5D">http://www.artofproblemsolving.com/Books/AoPS_B_Item.php?page_id=52</a></p>
<p>Is it worth it? Recently, I've gotten much better at the AMC 10. Around 7/8 or 8/8 on worksheets :)</p>
<p>You might consider ordering practice AIME's. It can be a good way to test whether or not the AoPS stuff is helping. Also order some AMC 12 or AMC 10 tests. If you can get around 115 or 120 on the AMC 12 then you don't even need to worry about practicing for those. An interesting side note: You can qualify for the AIME with only 11 right on AMC 12 if you leave the rest blank.</p>
<p>Hmmm 11\25 is still pretty tough for AMC 12. Looking at the practice worksheets, even my dad is stumped. They are considerably harder than AMC 10. Do you know ~ how many correct are needed for AIME? I'll need more practice for the 12's; I've only started the AoPS and AMC prep 2 weeks ago. If only I had more time :)</p>
<p>AoPS is definitely helping; otherwise I would have been clueless on the AMC 10 itself :p</p>
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<p>I don't really understand your question. If you are asking how many you need right on AMC 10 for AIME then the answer is top 1% of all test takers or 120+. The way to get 120+ with the least number of correct answers is 17 questions right and 8 left blank.</p>
<p>Sorry, thats what I meant, with tilda being about equal to. :o</p>
<p>17/25 with 8 blank is not too bad; I actually may be able to qualify! But after thats, its dead end. :p</p>
<p>So what do you think about the book? I think it may provide good knowledge of what the AMC is like, and it also has answers and explanations.</p>
<p>Actually I don't have it. I studied using old AMC 12 tests and AIME tests and got a 115 and a 5 which I was content with. I will probably order it this year bc my outlandish dream is to qualify for USAMO and it's my last year to do it. The combinatorics book looks really good, and that's what a lot of the hardest problems on AIME are.</p>
<p>Do you suggest getting Mandelbrot problems? I'm looking at 2 books for $20 each from AoPS
Book Store and they seem pretty good.</p>
<p>Wow, good luck to you. I hope you qualify! :)</p>
<p>The "First Steps for Math Olympians" looks a bit better to me; however it is more expensive. You might want to order the Mandelbrot one first, and if it's what you want then great cuz you have it, and if not then order a different book. I wouldn't order two Mandelbrot books at once though. Order one, then if you like it, order the second one.</p>
<p>I think I'll go with "First Steps for Math Olympians." It seems well-rounded; it provides examples, problems, topics, methods, etc., The cost shouldn't be too much of a problem. :D</p>
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<p>This scoring rule has changed, effective this school year (the 2007 AMC 12 and AMC 10). Now there will not be quite the same severe penalty for guessing/generous reward for not guessing that there was in last year's scoring system, so it will be necessary to answer a few more questions to get the same bottom-line score. But there may be more really easy questions at the beginning of the test, making the overall difficulty level about the same. </p>
<p>I advise the guys I coach to play conservatively the first year they take an AMC 10 or AMC 12 test, to make sure to qualify for AIME. Then, in subsequent years, they should try to answer more questions for </p>
<p>a) self-respect </p>
<p>b) qualification for state winner awards (has happened here) </p>
<p>c) higher AMC index score for selection for USAMO and MOP.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info tokenadult. Do you know exactly what the change is? I can't find any information on the AMC website.</p>
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<p>Glad to hear it. :D</p>
<p>AMC day was not a good day for me, I got ~3ish hours of sleep and the pencil was really heavy and annoying and I ****ed my pants (figuratively) when I hit a wall after the first few question and ... yeah.</p>
<p>We had about 10 kids take AIME this year, and one got so frustrated that after only an hour he got out his french book and worked on his pronunciation the rest of the time. He was one of those ppl who, try as they might, are really bad at whispering. Needless to say, the rest of us were p1ssed.</p>
<p>What's the cutoff AMC 12 score that is recorded in the AMC results book? Will a 123 make that cutoff? Lowest cutoff AIME score recorded is a 6 right?</p>
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<p>It is still 6 points for every correct answer.
the change is 1.5 points for every question left unattempted versus the
2.5 points used in 2006.</p>
<p>so 11 correct (11*6) + 14 left unanswered (14 *2.5) = 101 in 2006
(good enought ot qualify for AIME when taking AMC12)</p>
<p>2007 onwards one would need
14 correct (14<em>6) + 11 left unanswered (11</em>1.5) = 100.5 to qualify for the
AIME when taking the AMC12</p>
<p>Thanks very much arwen. Although qualifying is now more difficult, I think the change is definitely for the better.</p>