Americans think they're the best at everything.

[Cuse0507]

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It’s hard to find good statistics. Especially when they’re probably propaganda from the government. I am sure the figure is much larger. And that’s only the civilians. Soldiers are people too.

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<p>Soldiers are people, and war is hell. Your point? </p>

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And I can’t remember the exact name of the incident but there was a case where a troop of soldiers raided a village in vietnam of women and children and men and killed them all for no ****ing reason. All civilians.

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<p>Right-those were the 300 that I was referring to. Now take that, multiply it a few thousand times, and you have the USSR in a nutshell. </p>

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Check your facts. I am almost positive you have it wrong.

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<p>Nope. 100% positive that my facts are correct. Just covered this in a history class with a world-renowned professor last year. If you don’t want to take my word for it, just google it. </p>

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I can’t be fake because it’s big? Nice logic.

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<p>No, it can’t be fake because its…real. Just like the “imaginary” borders that you speak of.</p>

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Anyway the ****storm the US economy is in now is because of how messed up your credit system is. It will eventually crumble anyway.

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<p>Wait, how is it going to crumble if it is fake?</p>

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Well the US has certainly come close.

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<p>Wrong. Wishing something were true and implying that it is are two very different things. The US will never, ever come even remotely close to being as bad as the Nazis were. Never have been that bad, never will be that bad. Keep dreaming though.</p>

[Cuse0507]

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However, during world war 2 I believe Japanese Americans were sent to internment camps and kept there without any rights, and without due process of the law. Similar to Nazi Germany and the USSR? Yes.

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<p>Um, no. How many of those people did we actually kill? </p>

<p>Lets see…umm…none. Compared to the tens of millions of people that the Nazis and Soviets murdered during the war, I’d say we have work to do if we want to step our “bad guy” game up.</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>Why would I dream that the US would kill more to be more like Nazi Germany. You see you’re delusional and not using common sense.</p>

<p>Something can crumble because it’s fake. A show car might only consist of a body but no internal parts but it could still fall apart. (and is in fact more likely to)</p>

<p>Those borders are imaginary lines we draw. They have no more meaning than what they give to it. Just like money. Just like the words on this screen. They are fluid ideas that can change and do not exist in the world of tables and chairs. The fact that you are comparing this to my claim that the US economy is fake (or should I have said hollow, fragile) shows that you’re not grasping the concepts I am presenting to you.</p>

<p>I just googled the Japanese bombings. You might be correct. Although I am sure I have heard they surrendered before one of the bombings. At any rate those bombing killed FAR more civilians than soldiers and army and militia personnel and were certainly not justified either way.</p>

<p>If soldiers are people and war is hell I’d suggest avoiding war…</p>

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Um, no. How many of those people did we actually kill?</p>

<p>Lets see…umm…none. Compared to the tens of millions of people that the Nazis and Soviets murdered during the war, I’d say we have work to do if we want to step our “bad guy” game up.

See what you’re doing is like saying “I held one guy hostage for two years against his will, and someone killed one guy. Therefore, I am the good guy”</p>

<p>No you’re not good. You’re just less evil. If you’re proud of that fine.</p>

[Cuse0507]

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If soldiers are people and war is hell I’d suggest avoiding war…

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<p>Good advice. We’ll take that into consideration the next time we’re attacked.</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>You are NEVER attacked! The US is always the one who instigates the wars!</p>

[Cuse0507]

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You are NEVER attacked! The US is always the one who instigates the wars!

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<p>Um, really? Pearl Harbor, 9/11, the Lusitania. Ever hear of any of those things?</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>You can’t think of any legitimate reasons why those things might have happened?</p>

<p>example: 9/11 happened because you were ****ing around in the middle east constantly for about 10 years until finally people got sick of it</p>

[UCSDJake12]

<p>To be fair, Saddam Hussein turned out not to have played a role in attacking us. It’s been about 50/50 since World War II.</p>

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9/11 happened because you were ****ing around in the middle east constantly for about 10 years until finally people got sick of it

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<p>Did al-Qaeda expect the US to not strike back though? I think it was globally agreed that 9/11 was a causus belli against Afghanistan.</p>

[Cuse0507]

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You can’t think of any legitimate reasons why those things might have happened?</p>

<p>example: 9/11 happened because you were ****ing around in the middle east constantly for about 10 years until finally people got sick of it

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<p>Ah, I see. Blame the victim. </p>

<p>“Officer, it’s his fault that I robbed him. He shouldn’t have been driving such a nice car!”</p>

<p>Seriously, it is impossible to reason with you people. Like I said before, we’re damned if we do, damned if we don’t. Maybe that’s why we don’t care what people like you think about us…?</p>

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<p>I love how Americans claim there country to be the best country in the world, while there can be no best country, at least universally speaking. Sure it is a great country but certainly not flawless or the best(which no country is).</p>

[UCSDJake12]

<p>America is actually pretty great outside of Iowa.</p>

<p>Just kidding of course.</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>Again I agree with you. But Americans have to ask themselves this “Why do all these countries want to attack us?”</p>

[Cuse0507]

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Again I agree with you. But Americans have to ask themselves this “Why do all these countries want to attack us?”

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<p>There are a million reasons-as many reasons as there are people that hate us. We can’t respond to all of them, nor should we.</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>I asked a question and you didn’t answer. Avoiding the question and flinging insults is not good argument etiquette.</p>

<p>Again: Why do you think people want to attack the US?</p>

<p>My point is if people want to attack the US, they must have a reason. This reason might be justifiable or not.</p>

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We can’t respond to all of them, nor should we.

There’s that world famous arrogance again.</p>

[UCSDJake12]

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But Americans have to ask themselves this “Why do all these countries want to attack us?”

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<p>We have lots of great universities with great political science departments who have asked those questions over and over again.</p>

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Why do you think people want to attack the US?

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<p>My opinion? A combination of religious extremism and nationalism.</p>

[Cuse0507]

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I asked a question and you didn’t answer. Avoiding the question and flinging insults is not good argument etiquette.</p>

<p>Again: Why do you think people want to attack the US?

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<p>I thought we’ve never been attacked?</p>

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My point is if people want to attack the US, they must have a reason. This reason might be justifiable or not.

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<p>Why did OJ kill his wife? Why do so many people cheat on their spouses? Who knows? </p>

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There’s that world famous arrogance again.

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<p>Arrogance? Why should we allow people who hate us tell us what to do?</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>I said you have never been attacked FIRST. Please don’t twist my words.</p>

<p>Are you trying to tell me that groups of people, entire nations, attack you for no reason what-so-ever? Simply on a whim?</p>

[UCSDJake12]

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Why did OJ kill his wife? Why do so many people cheat on their spouses? Who knows?

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<p>Lots of books and papers have been written on why 9/11 happened.</p>

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You are NEVER attacked!

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I said you have never been attacked FIRST. Please don’t twist my words.

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<p>Sometimes I love the “no editing after 20 minutes” feature, sometimes I love it more.</p>

[Cuse0507]

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I said you have never been attacked FIRST. Please don’t twist my words.

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<p>Well, your words are wrong. Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Lusitania, etc…</p>

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Are you trying to tell me that groups of people, entire nations, attack you for no reason what-so-ever? Simply on a whim?

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<p>Nope, people have their reasons, just like we had ours for going into Iraq, Vietnam, etc.</p>

[iamsounsure]

<p>When I said that I implied that you had never been attacked first. Because if you attack someone they’re obviously not going to sit there and let the US rape them. They will attack back. You also took that sentence out of context. The following setence said “The US always instigates the wars”</p>

<p>I thank you for this opportunity to practice my patience Cuse. It’s something I really want to cultivate and you are really helping.</p>

<p>Pearl Harbor, 9/11, and Lusitania are not first attacks. They are all probably the result of the US tampering with some country before hand and that country finally attacking back</p>

<p>I’ll give you the analogy of say you are constantly stealing from me. You take all my money and then one day I punch you in the face. Was I the instigator?</p>