<p>i am really bored...</p>
<p>what do people in the east US and international students usually think of californians as? do they think they are lazy, have everything easy, sit at the beach all day? (btw i am californian so i just want to know diff points of view)</p>
<p>Well, in my area most consider Californians as rich and spoiled who are too liberal, yet seem to have gotten brains by electing "The Gubernator".*</p>
<p>I get taunted about this all the time, as I'm about to go to school in California (the "University of Spoiled Children" in fact, as my English teacher told me).</p>
<p>*This does not necessarily represent my political views.</p>
<p>redski59, where are you from?</p>
<p>I live in the Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C. (Fairfax County to be more exact). Many in my area are either active or retired military personnel, mostly working at the Pentagon. (which should explain the political viewpoint around here)</p>
<p>Yep, considering California has the economy larger than many nations, and support so much of the rest of the country, its nice to see us "liberals" helpin y'all out over there!!! ANd being thanked for it too!! So us spoiled rich folks are building the roads in Arkansas, and supporting those military folks. Yep, we pay a good chunk of the military's salalries, so when they complain about us, we should just take back our taxes. Tell em that!!!!</p>
<p>PS_ We aren't all pleased with Gropenator. </p>
<p>Redski- when you hit southern california, it will really be an eye opener. Go back with a tan, a new wardrobe and some California slang....We are better here on the Pacific. And when they taunt you for going to USC, say, hey, hows the snow back there!!!</p>
<p>LOL, thanks citygirlsmom! I'd certainly not be going out to USC if I didn't agree with you ;)</p>
<p>yet seem to have gotten brains by electing "The Gubernator".*</p>
<p>personally, I don't know what Californians were thinking when they elected Arnold.</p>
<p>...oh, and its the "University of Second Choice" as well :)</p>
<p>USC is actually pretty conservative for a California school. As you probably know USC ain't cheap, so the kids who go to USC have parents with a decent amount of dough (nothing compared to the old money on the east coast, though) and are at least fiscally conservative if not socially.</p>
<p>Just having money doesnt make you fiscally conservative (though a lot of people with money are afraid of taxes for some reason), there are plenty of people with plenty of money who support taxes (either way, they still have more money than you or I).</p>
<p>I know exactly how arnold got elected, it happened here in minnesota. Neither of the candidates were very appealing (well, our current gov. is pretty unappealing too and our state government is scheduled to shut down on the first of the month because he is an idiot) and in walks Jesse Ventura, former pro wrestler etc. He tours around the state in a motorhome flexing his muscles and giving out bright colored campaign materials. Pretty soon tons of young people who dont know much at all about politics decide that they want to vote, and they want to vote for "the cool guy". Thats about all it takes to get a famous person in office is a bunch of ignorant voters who dont seem to understand that the strength of our contry relies on their choice.</p>
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Oh well, at least it's also the "University of Superb Connections". FIGHT ON!</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p><a href="http://iris.nyit.edu/%7Evperrico/Map.jpg%5B/url%5D">http://iris.nyit.edu/~vperrico/Map.jpg</a></p>
<p>K Thx</p>
<p>Why do we have to be better or worse than everyone else?</p>
<p>The cost of living is higher in California, but that hardly implies that the people are rich.</p>
<p>USC also = "University of Spoiled Children"</p>
<p>I'd say the stereotypical view of californians in northern va is that they are rich and laid back. Not lazy, but more relaxed than the hustle and bustle of the political scene that dominates the areas surrounding DC. Many politicals / Pentagon people in the area.</p>
<p>However redski, you may note that Fairfax County voted for Kerry by about 7%.</p>
<p>Oh well, at least it's also the "University of Superb Connections".</p>
<p>hahah for about a 50 mile radius around the school...</p>
<p>Since everyone is focusing on the negatives..</p>
<p>What does everyone think about Minnesota? As a Minnesotan, am I supposed to sit in my basement, typing with one-fingered mittens, surrounded by a pile of snow? </p>
<p>Otto, I know exactly what you are talking about regarding Governor Ventura. Why? Because my friend said that (even though he wasn't old enough to vote) he would vote for Ventura because, in his exact words, "He's cool."</p>
<p>These conceptions are interesting for me.... as I spent a number of my schoolyears growing up in southern California, later to live on the East Coast (NJ and NY). Because much of my family still lives in Orange County, I go back to visit usually twice a year, but - as far as I'm concerned, I would never go back to live because this part of the country is just quite simply much nicer. </p>
<p>Californians may taunt others about snow and the temperature, etc. in other places, but many (forgive me if this offends, I'm just speaking honestly) seem totally unknowledgeable about life in other parts. Give me the seasons anyday. Give me the rain that makes the sky and the grass and the plants brilliant. Give me the clear air. Give me the clean roads and shady neighbourhoods with lovely, old homes. Give me a place that has proper shopping districts and not grimy, dusty strip malls as far as the eye can see. And....if I may say it....give me a place that has actually managed to move beyond the hippie era. ;-)</p>
<p>That's my perspective as an ex-Californian going to NYU. Certainly, CA has many things to speak well of, but in my experience, the stereotypes that Californians use in describing their own state are not the places in which "normal" people actually live.</p>
<p>By the way, it would be relevant to note that a major factor in CA's economy being as large as it is points to the fact that it is by far the most populous state with a population of 33,000,000 (vs. Texas' population of 20,000,000 for example).</p>
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However redski, you may note that Fairfax County voted for Kerry by about 7%.
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Yeah, I know that soccerguy. But I live in Springfield, the only Republican district in the County. </p>
<p>Icarus, may I invite you for a visit to the USC board? You might be amused with what we're all talking about there.</p>
<p>awww haha all the USC names...</p>
<p>USC ALSO = university of special chicanos.</p>
<p>heh...</p>
