American's Werid (Grade) Ranking System!?

<p>PS: Many places in Canada have French immersion, so if the Asian kid grew up in Canada, his being good in French could be the fact that it is tought in Canada from an early age in many places.</p>

<p>btw - upper canada college is historically recognized as the most prestigous school in canada. St andrews is good but it isnt near the best in canada.</p>

<p>Here's the grading system at my school in Michigan:</p>

<p>100-94: A
93-90: A-
89-87: B+
86-84: B
83-80: B-
79-77: C+
76-74: C
73-70: C-
69-67: D+
66-64: D
63-60: D-
< 59: E</p>

<p>As you can see, my school is pretty generous with A's, but not many people actually have weighted 4.0's or higher; AP courses are pretty hard for most people. I believe this year, we had 14 people out of 371 who had a 4.0 or higher. It's pretty much impossible to have an unweighted 4.0 unless you've been taking tons of sports classes and such.</p>

<p>Grading system at my school:</p>

<p>70-100: A
65-70: B
58-65: C
52-58: D
45-52: E
35-45: O
<35: O</p>

<p>Well, this is a different exam altogether from the Americans... GCE A Level.. yeah and it's tough and a A from the A level will exempt you from many year 1 courses in many colleges in US..</p>

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My school was similar. Out of a class of about 370, the student ranked #10 had a 3.95 weighted. The valedictorian had a 4.16 weighted.</p>

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<p>sorry to brust your bubble. However UCC wasnt even ranked! Hmmm. I dont know why.. maybe its because the SEVERAL rape incindents.. or just its 89% that go to university compared to the 100% that go at st. andrews. St. Andrews was ranked the higest. UCC may have BEEN the best school at one point but not any more.</p>

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However UCC wasnt even ranked!

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Well Macleans is doing a bad job at ranking then :P</p>

<p>where did you see this ranking, Canadian_?</p>

<p>I'd actually think that UCC is a better school than St. Andrews, because UCC tends to have really bright kids that do very well in competitions. But I guess I can't base how good a school is solely on competitions. </p>

<p>Can you tell me at what place Old Scona Academic was ranked? We've been number 1 in Alberta with 10.0 for like 10 years now too, and I wanna know our national ranking haha.</p>

<p>Isn't University of Toronto Schools really good too? Like, I've never heard of St. Andrews until now, but I've heard A LOT about University of Toronto Schools, UCC, and St. Johns Ravenscourt or w/e in Manitoba.</p>

<p>Let's compare Old Scona, Upper Canada College, and St. Andrews in terms of competition achievements.</p>

<ul>
<li>Canadian National Mathematics League 2005
Old Scona: total points 146
St. Andrews: total points 125
Upper Canada College: total points 161</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="http://www.mathleague.com/reports/2004_05/CN6.HTM%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.mathleague.com/reports/2004_05/CN6.HTM&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<ul>
<li>National Biology Exam 2005 *
Old Scona: 6th
St. Andrews: not in top 10, don't know the exact rank
Upper Canada College: 10th </li>
</ul>

<p><a href="http://www.biocomp.utoronto.ca/2005/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.biocomp.utoronto.ca/2005/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>*National Chemistry Exam * (doesn't provide school rankings, just individual names)
Old Scona: top in the province numerous times, and a student got 1st in national in 2004
St. Andrews: I don't see any people in the recent past in top 3 provincially.
Upper Canada College: same as St. Andrews.
<a href="http://www.cheminst.ca/outreach/hsexam/cicfrm_index__e.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cheminst.ca/outreach/hsexam/cicfrm_index__e.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<ul>
<li>Leonardo da Vinci Physics Competition
Old Scona: one Scholar with Distinction, and 3 regular Scholars
St. Andrews: no scholars
Upper Canada College: no scholars</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/apsc/davinci/2005_exam/results.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/apsc/davinci/2005_exam/results.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<ul>
<li>Canadian Open Mathematics Competition 2004
Old Scona: two people in group 4
St. Andrews: no one
Upper Canada College: one person in group 4, one person in group 5
<a href="http://www.cemc.uwaterloo.ca/english/contests/past_result/2005/comc_results.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cemc.uwaterloo.ca/english/contests/past_result/2005/comc_results.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li>
</ul>

<p>hm, it seems like Old Scona generally does better than both St. Andrews and UCC in most competitions (only exception being CNML, where Old Scona got 146 and UCC got 161). and about the graduation rate, 100%, if not 98%+, of Old Scona graduates go to universities also. </p>

<p>aca0260 said UCC was known as the most prestigeous school in Canada. I agree that was the case in the past, because I do remember UCC students doing extremely well in competitions. But for some reason, it has been declining these days.</p>

<p>Canadian_ says St. Andrews is the best in Canada cuz it gets 10.0 rating in Fraser Institute ranking. I don't doubt that St. Andrews is an excellent school; it has to be, with 100% of its students going to universities. But in order to be the best in Canada, you gotta have some students that are best in Canada also, and clearly at St. Andrews, there has been no one who really competes at national level for a quite a while.</p>

<p>Canada grades weird :-).</p>

<p>99-100 = A+
94-98 = A
90-93 = B+
84-89 = B
80-83 = C+
74-79 = C
70-73 = D+
64-69 = D
63- = F</p>

<p>that's mine.
80-100 is an A? interesting...</p>

<p>haha, yeah. I actually think that the American grading system makes more sense. But if they made A's to be like 93~100, then only the top 5% kids would get A's (assuming that the school is decent, of course). So that wouldn't really work either lol :P</p>

<p>my school:
100-97- A+
96-93- A
92-90- A-
89-87- B+
86-83- B
82-80- B-
79-70 is C's, 69-60 is B's, and 59- is F. (the +, -'s follow the same pattern as I listed above.) </p>

<p>I like this system. In my school, which is pretty small, a good amount get all 80's+ (around 20%+) I think. That percentage really decreases when it comes to all 90's+.</p>

<p>I would say most Canadian schools (at least in the province of Ontario) are ultra easy and really hand out the As.
But people consider anything about an 80% to be an A.</p>

<p>I agree that the American system of grading makes much more sense and is very much pro-active.
I mean, here in Canada, people are content with an "A", which is anything above an 80%, whereas, in America, achieving an "A" is harder with an "A" being something above 93 (I believe anyway.) Everyone wants and is expected by their parents and peers to get As. It makes Canadian students become slackers- unproductive.</p>

<p>Ontario schools are NOT especially hard. I remember hearing about some American kids in Grade 7 learning some sort of thing in mathematics that I who was then in Grade 10, had never even heard of in my Canadian school.</p>

<p>St. Andrews-</p>

<p>54 Sports Teams
100% Grad Rate
1:5 Teacher/ Student Ratio
Cadet crops (tradition) over 100 years
School Average: A</p>

<p>What more can you ask for?</p>

<p>"What more can you ask for?"</p>

<p>Many other things that other better high schools have that your school doesn't have. For example, better academics (your school's ranking in national exams shows that your school's academic isn't even near the top in Canada).</p>

<p>Sorry but many of our guys scored 99th percentile on the chemistry, physics and bio national exams. That I am sure off.</p>

<p>Hey, do you Canadians have weighting for GPA's?</p>

<p>My school doesn't. But I guess that's because my school doesnt offer any APs :(</p>

<p>we can. if we were applying to the us the guidance consellor would calculate it but in canada we apply by overall percentage of gr 12 yrs.</p>