<p>I just noticed that Full Sail is offering an online Bachelor's Degree in "Digital Cinematography." WTH? I can't even imagine doing a film degree without the whole support structure (AND PEOPLE!) around you. Anyone got more info or thoughts on this?</p>
<p>
[quote]
From documentaries to viral sensations, digital video
can deliver just as much of a viewer experience as its
film counterpart. As the demand for quality digital video
projects continues to grow, skilled cinematographers
are needed to blend artistic vision with a mastery of
production technology.</p>
<p>If you see life best through the eye of a camera lens,
Full Sail University's online Digital Cinematography
bachelor's degree program can teach you the creative
process to make independent films from lighting,
scripting, and HD video production, to shooting in a
variety of styles for cinematic and commercial projects.
You'll be able to share projects and get feedback
from your peers through the Full Sail Online platform,
and build a diverse digital portfolio to help promote
your finished work.
[/quote]
Notice: This is definitely NOT a commercial post!</p>
<p>It is Full Sail, Florida’s biggest joke/ripoff. As bears says, any school that needs to advertise on the trains… WTH indeed. Full Sail is all about the $$$.</p>
<p>bears here
so redbug, how’s Fullsail’s train or highway ads look like? at least spent good money on enuff to be well desinged and pleasant to look at?</p>
<p>digmedia
I was listening to the radio and this story came on, and thought about your thread.
maybe this is not your cup of tea but cinematography, esp nowaday’s digital galore could be taught by Full Sailing-way, if some guy with no formal training but with great love of Vermeer painting could accomplished something like this.
I have no idea how film making should be taught. I happened to like films made by people who aren’t taught conventional way, same as any other arts. I mean film is fine art, no?
[NPR</a> Media Player](<a href=“http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=136717508&m=136835042]NPR”>http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=136717508&m=136835042)
that is, of course if you got money to burn, and not worrying about real paying job after completing the course.</p>
<p>Before this online idea is discounted as mercenary garbage, think about how technology has enabled us to change the way we do things and wonder if they are instead cutting edge.</p>
<p>We used to fly to meetings to meet people for work. Now, we can go to a conference room and have a meeting with someone in Mumbai and London using technology to literally see eye-to-eye. And yes, it looks like you are sitting across the table from one another. Good for us, good for CO2 reduction, bad for airlines.</p>
<p>Bears, you are like a Google for art. How do you come across all this info? I am going to have to watch The Red Shoes.</p>
<p>And we go to conf rooms because we are not all webcam enabled…but soon</p>
<p>(oh and Film is my favorite kind of fine art!)</p>
<p>and bad for us non-management level employees (no leftover snacks from hi powered show off-y meetings)</p>
<p>mom4
I have this lax job which enable me to listen to public radio all day long. I jot down if I hear anything interesting and after hours google them and usually audio links are ready to share within hours (could be seconds?) of broadcasting.
like you said, thanx to the technology.</p>
<p>and Full Sail is Full Sail, however cut or pasted.
maybe digmedia can pretend to be a prospective student and do spy? he (dad, yes?) can write about the experience and claim tuition expense for tax return while making pile of money, win win win!!!
the book title
"I took Full Sail ONLINE film making class and all I got is (fill in the blank - I don’t know what they’d give, toy sail boat? coffee mug? T shirts?)</p>
<p>We actually don’t have any trains here where I am, an hour and a half from Orlando, where the school is located. I was just using your remark about the cash-cow NY schools advertising on subways. They do however, have pop-up ads on the local newspaper website as well as TV advertising, which is very convincing.</p>
<p>I don’t know anything about film programs either, so can’t really speak to the possibility/wisdom of it being taught on-line. If another well respected school offered it, I would definitely give it the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>BTW, I love film too - is anyone else a Wholphin fan??</p>
<p>thought so. if colleges start advertising on highway billboard, we should worry
thing is,
every supposedly respectable school does that for CE classes
Columbia, NYU, Parsons, FIT, SVA etc
some does that for dayUG school
Marymount Manhattan, St Frances, Poly tech, all CUNYs
plus
notorious for profit/ low income targeted all sort of shady business or nursing schools singing loud
“get GED and associate degree at the same time! fin aid if qualified! MBA in 18 month!”</p>
<p>out of all ^these, frequency and questionable design for SVA stands out and bothers me, is all.
one example, they had parody of mosaic tiles lettering poster as signature subway wall.
when you see font, you can see they made effort to differentiate cut of mosaics on same alphabet if it was used more than one to make it look genuine, which old subway walls are quite amazing craftsmanship wise. ( not newer factory made copies)
then, when you look at background, it is totally copy and pasted by blocks.
to me it is OK if BAM (local performance venue )'s King Lear poster had cut/paste/ rotated bunch of ravens on,
or
Natural history museum had dinosaur silhouette that is enlarged and repeated
BUT</p>
<p>SVA!? hello???</p>
<p>all they need is to spend extra 20-30 min to blur the edge or tweak here there, (like they did for the font) so noone would see them slacking away!!!
Of course most people won’t even care if the poster is even there, but there are many people do this sort for living and do take subway everyday, evaluate its worth during commute to kill time (our fav activity)
SVA has been champion of many many questionable self congratulating posters.
I know raininguru would disagree but I don’t care WTH (is this how you say it? H stand for he*ll?) famous graphic designer done the poster. If don’t speak, they don’t. (to me, of course, so what the point? OK OK)
sorry dig-dad
off topic</p>
<p>aghhhhh
did anyone else see that?
pop-up ad on CC where U Alabama or Art Institute used to be
on right hand corner top was
Columbia (Ivy, not Chicago)Some sort of extension masters or something, with day-gro font!!!
end of the world!!!</p>
<p>Every day I get pop up ads from Full Sail on the Florida Today website. So annoying.</p>
<p>Made a trip to Orlando to do a Penzeys spice and Girdano’s Pizza run with a stop at the Florida Mall in between. Billboards for Full Sail everywhere. At the mall was a kiosk with 2 kids? Admission counselors? with a laptop, pics, glossy brochures, etc just ready to tell you about their school. D made some disparaging remark (don’t remember what it was), then stopped when she saw the kisok was manned (we had approached it from the back). I echoed what she said, and she got mad thinking I was embarassing her. Told her no, it was like the remarks I make out loud near the puppy mill stores. If I can save just one person/dog…</p>
<p>wow
so
how was the design of Full Sail T-shirts?
the saying I used ^ actually end as
“- all I got was this lousy T-shirt”</p>
<p>To tell you the truth, I didn’t notice, they had on plain blue polo shirts, maybe the logo small. Did not stop to talk to them, but maybe I will make next time I go!!</p>
<p>I said in somewhere I would stay away from film thread but how can I help it, for this one!?
sooo
at least they do get free uniform. My guess is their signature airplane emblem in natural white on the facing right chest, a la Ralph Lauren!!!</p>
<p>mom4
are you around? get The Red Shoes DVD in the Criterion Collection (so white of me, it’s listed #106 in “Stuff White People Like” book)
I took it out from local library and gosh! when I saw it long time ago when I was a student, I just sort of categorized it in somewhere between Wizard of OZ and Gone with the Wind, been no interested in ballet or fine art back then.
It is fabulous!!! total Vermeer!! and come with looooong bonus link audio commentary by stared dancer, Scorsese, and of course Jack Cardiff (cinematographer)
not only he did not study painting, but he have never seen ballet until he was assigned to do the job. so he did crash course of going to see performances, and fell in love immediately. Props and costumes are super neat you’d forget the film is what, 50 plus years old.
I know it is a wrong thing to say at the moment but I was comparing to Natalie Portman in the Black Swan, and sort of wonder what have we lost because of, I don’t know, more tools, red-tapes, or mindset of what it mean to make ‘good’ film?
This actor is a dancer foremost. She didn’t want to play because she knew how ridiculous the original script was. In the end it came to some negotiation and aren’t we happy she danced the role!!
awwww
thank you thank you NPR, NYPL (public library) all the brave artists in the past and present, and future!!!</p>
<p>I’m out here. Couldn’t get D1 or 2 to see the push broom. Too much like school I guess - will give it another week. Thanks for the reminder on the Red Shoes. Have been raiding the local Blockbuster with their $.99 movies to catch up on foreign films.</p>
<p>mom4
Please go, I beg you
I also took out from the library “Rothko’s Rooms” documentary about rooms in Tate(old one and now in Tate modern) that permanently hang Mark Rothko’s red paintings exactly the way as he wanted them to be arranged. Then he killed himself, never gotten see it himself.
in the film was a bit about Houston’s Rothko Chapel, founded by Menil couple and right next to the Menil collection!! and it’s 40 year aniversary and now, more Rothko works are in Menil.
<a href=“http://www.rothkochapel.org/[/url]”>http://www.rothkochapel.org/</a>
I am totally film- ised and was looking at film books my job got, and suddenly it hit me.
have you seem “The Tin Drum?”
<a href=“http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tin%20drum%20movie&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi[/url]”>http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tin%20drum%20movie&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi</a>
it’s the same drum!! as the kinetic sculpture that broom-guy made, and said one of them was on the roof of the museum in Dallas!!
<a href=“http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=maurizio%20Cattelan%20drummer%20boy&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi[/url]”>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=maurizio%20Cattelan%20drummer%20boy&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi</a>
I don’t know what is the real back story, maybe nothing. since ^ this boy got hoodie and jeans on. maybe all Euro tin drums look the same, like Radio Flyer wagon here, or something.
but yet but yet…
awww I gotta find more books about the Broom guy! The prankster!!!
here now I declare hijack “art in films (or vice versa) thread”!!!</p>
<p>Wow, interesting you mentioned Black Swan. I found that hard to watch. Maybe because of how graphic it was? Then I watched Taxi Driver c.1976. It seemed so tame by comparison. Yet, made Ds watch Driving Miss Daisy and Fried Green Tomatoes and they were smitten the same as I was when I first saw. Interesting how social values change the impact of some stories over time. Digmedia may want us to go elsewhere for the film discussion, but I am game. Maybe a film thread?</p>
<p>I’d just ignore and leave us alone if I were (was?) him
right, dig-dad? <wink></wink></p>