<p>^^ i think its easier to qualify before 11th grade, especially easy in 10th grade. if you are a good student, you would have learned all the "math" in math olympiad in 10th grade--namely, precalculus. then, one only needs 8 on AIME to qualify.
my friend and i both had one usamo (both in 10th grade, incidentally) on the application.</p>
<p>it didn't use to be like that. but now they have a whole new formula for the AIME floor, i don't know exactly how it works but it's something like the lowest AIME score for a regular qualifier determines which sophmores and below make it. (so if the regular cutoff is a 210...and some guy gets a 150/6...the 6 is obviously the lowest AIME score and therefore all sophs + freshmen who got a 6 will also qualify.</p>
<p>that's how they added 300 more qualifiers in addition to lowering the cutoff</p>
<p>i feel bad for those around my level (mathematically speaking), who have no chance getting into mosp. they can just hope that the prestige of usamo doesnt vary inversely with the number of qualifiers each year.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that even KNOWING about AMC/AIME/USAMO and other olympiads is generally limited to those at extremely prestigious high schools, with encouraging parents, or who are extremely self-motivated. I seriously didn't know about any of this until junior year, at which point it was really too late (not that I'm extremely mathematically inclined - more of a bioE major speaking, but still). Keeping admissions limited to or guaranteed for people involved in this stuff virtually excludes the equally intelligent, but untrained, kids in areas or situations with fewer opportunities (and no, I'm not talking about URMs).</p>
<p>Heh, I had USAMO and Siemens Regional Finalist for my math research project and I was deferred. Go figure.</p>
<p>Why is anyone even considering his silly and unsubstantiated comments? He has no data or research to back it up. He has no proof that the women who apply to MIT are less qualified, and his EC comments are also without any evidence.</p>
<p>Talk about the thread that never dies. Anyway, I never said that the women who apply to MIT are less qualified than the men or that the women who are accepted to MIT are less qualified than the men, just that MIT has more extremely well qualified men to pick from.</p>
<p>A lot more men apply to MIT than women. Therefore a lot more get rejected/deferred.</p>
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Talk about the thread that never dies. Anyway, I never said that the women who apply to MIT are less qualified than the men or that the women who are accepted to MIT are less qualified than the men, just that MIT has more extremely well qualified men to pick from.
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<p>It's not your suggestions that bother me, it's that you have no evidence to back them up. </p>
<p>Where's the statistics showing that varsity sports are a serious factor? Can you show that they correlate to acceptance independently of other factors?</p>
<p>But here are my conclusions from the EA results thread: </p>
<p>-SAT Subject Tests are very important</p>
<p>-SATs are relatively unimportant once they're over the 2200 threshold</p>
<p>-Having a good GPA helps too</p>
<p>-AP Tests are relatively unimportant</p>
<p>I'll try to piece together a correlation between varsity sports and acceptance, but just from what I've seen I don't think any exists.</p>
<p>^ that 's true
and stupidkid is an asian male...if he was an asian female or white or even URM he would've gotten in probably ^_^</p>
<p>lol the prestige of USAMO...i dunno if it'll vary inversely w/ number of qualifiers BUT there are a LOT more ppl taking it than 5 or 10 years ago so that would mean it would be much harder to make it with 200 qualifiers, but since the lowered it to 500 it's probably about the same..</p>
<p>the AMC series is more well known than any of the other olympiads btw</p>
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well there are few smart ppl with varsity sports...so that's a little unusual...more than music and everything...and based on everyone who got in to schools over the past 5 years at my HS, they are kinda important. dunno about MIT but def. to hyp</p>
<p>dude it sucks...our school only administers the AMC 12 and refuses to give the AMC 10 to freshmen and sophomores so everyone has to take the 12. is there a significant difference between the AMC 10 and the AMC 12?</p>
<p>its' easier to make the USAMO with the 12, but for freshmen and sophmores who have't had precalc/alg 2 it's easier to make the AIME with the 10</p>
<p>Our school has only had one person ever get to the USAMO. Last year, we had 4 people qualify for the AIME (all juniors who are now seniors... my grade) and people thought that was a big deal. It's not that we're not a competitive school... I guess we're just not good at that stuff? Darn.</p>
<p>my school has like 30 ppl ore more a year make the AIME
and last year 3 ppl made the USAMO
and like 100+ ppl take teh 12</p>
<p>stupidkid im as surprised as you are that you got deferred..maybe they are saving you for RD acceptance :)</p>
<p>We had maybe... 10-15 take the AMC12. So I guess roughly the same percentage of kids who took it from both of our schools made it to both AIME and USAMO, lol. (30% of 15 = ~4 and 3% of 15 = ~0.) That partly makes me feel better. I can think of some people who didn't take the AMC who might have qualified for the AIME.</p>
<p>lol yeah we're all suprised..but it's just MIT. and i'm gonna be appying next year and ill respect any decision they make</p>
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that's why teachers are horrible at picking the "smart" kids--they just pick kids who work hard -_- some ppl can fail school but be super smart like that</p>
<p>Lol, at our school it's open to anyone who wants to take it. It's just that most people are too lazy.</p>
<p>oh .</p>