<p>wow ...alright then....it's going to "anger" my father</p>
<p>I started talking to my friend about Cooper yesterday, and she said, 'Ahh, stop, you ALWAYS talk about that school!' I said, 'How could I always talk about it to you? I don't see you that much now,' and she said 'Well, the few times you have, you've talked about Cooper Union!' She was kind of amused but it probably did annoy her. </p>
<p>I was uninspired immediately after finishing the hometest.. in the last few days however I've felt a bit better. (doing a drawing now) I didn't do much (art and otherwise) for about two weeks after it all. I'm still trying to get back into the 'normal school' mode after all the college disruptions. as for that uninspired feeling.. I do get that, in spurts kind of.. sometimes I don't do any art for no reason at all, I'm sitting watching stupid tv, even while I'm thinking, 'i should go draw.' and I have that stupid thing where I feel most like drawing when I don't have time for it. It's always right at 1 am when I'm literally about to get into bed! Then sometimes I actually sit and start doing it then, without my contacts so I can't see anything, and get to bed even later. And usually, earlier in the night, I've spent hours either watching tv or laying on my bed petting my cats. I waste a whooole lot of time petting my cats. but I feel like compared to other .. 'art is my whole life' people.. that I'm kind of lazy.. art IS my life, but sometimes I make myself guilty for not acting like it.</p>
<p>totally unrelated to anything question: do any of you have ADD or ADHD? there was just a good article in Newsweek about how many artists have it. (also, an overhwhealming percentage of criminals have adhd, haha.) (I do have ADD, if that wasn't implied). just curious.</p>
<p>you know what i notice that also...that i the more unconvienient doing art is the more inspired i feel...i've gotten some of my best ideas during physics and calculus...</p>
<p>nah...don't have ADD or ADHD..or at least don't know that i do..hey u never know....honestly, since i was young i've always thought that there was something wrong w. me mentally hahaha..strange but true.</p>
<p>o and i get that with my friends also...i really have to watch myself.. because my friends are not really even remotely interested in art.. they don't "get" what's so important about cooper. That's why i'm here so often haha it's nice to finally be able to talk with people who feel the same way that i do about it.</p>
<p>yesss. we can go on and on and ON about it to eachother and we all still want to hear more! my friends do get art and they understand why I like it, (they have the same type of passion, just for different things) but I annoy them when I keep repeating things about the school to them, usually about how I won't get in it. But then they say, 'oh, god. one day you'll come and find an acceptance envelope on your table..' and then I have to say, 'Okay, no. see, what you don't understand about this school is..' and that's about when they try to get me to shut up.</p>
<p>you never really do know about ADD, you're right. I was not diagnosed with it until .. well, about a year ago. Now that I think about it, it seems obvious. I have always been disorganized, chronically late to everything, absent-minded, and teachers all through grade school wrote that I 'needed to learn to follow directions.' in truth, 'ADD' is a manifestation of the ridgedness of our school system. the way school is set up, you only do well if your brain works a certain way. If your brain doesn't work in that linear way, and you happen to have all these other organizational problems, then poof, you've got ADD. (haa, I automatically get on the defensive about it because people always say things like 'it's an excuse' or 'it's fake.' and the like. but my major point of proof is, the pills made me stop falling asleep in class, point-blank. the day I took them was the first day in a long time that I was able to stay awake through every class. before I'd had problems with that, even when I wasn't tired or bored.)</p>
<p>you say there's somehing wrong with you mentally.. (haha) - so what kind of odd mental ticks do you have, specifically?</p>
<p>oh god. guess what I've just spent all evening doing? watching tv. (animal planet, tlc and Conan, simutaniously). yet all the time i've been doing it, i've been wanting to draw! haaaaa. I suppose I'll end up doing it at 2 am, that always happens on the weekends. (bad habits bad habits!)</p>
<p>--2 MORE WEEKS--</p>
<p>ah i know...it's crazy that we've literally been discussing cooper for about three weeks and i'm still not sick of it haha......i just want to know!!
it's so sad though for all the time i've spent thinking about it ... i still only have a 5 percent chance. How depressing is it going to be when i'm rejected and have to go to some school that i'm not passionate about. sigh.. ah well
and i know exactly what u mean about ur friends being liek "o you'll def get in" basically all of my friends and teachers figure that because it's an art school i'm automatically accepted...i keep trying to explain to people ...."this school has the most competitive acceptance rate in the country, statistically speaking i have a better chance at harvard"
but they're blinded by the fact that they've never heard of it before...which is another thing that really bothers me...half the people i talk to ask me "what's cooper union" ..gah</p>
<p>i think that part of thee reason i feel uninspired is that i need my sketchbook...or at least a sketchbook...i'm not used to functioning w.o one ...and also i need a good reference....i always want to take photos of friends and classmates for paintings ..but i have such a hard time getting them to pose..or u know not want to look pretty...i'm litterally thinking about taking an old text book, cutting out a chunk of the pages, and hiding my camera in there so i can take candid photos of strangers without getting looks and what not...</p>
<p>as for my mental problems ...hah...well we can start with disorganization....i've literally never really had a binder that lasted for more than three weeks, every school book i have is just some random combination of the papers i accumulate in a day.. so i never know where ANything is...also i don't know what it is ...but i think that in some way i'm addicted to the sensation of nervousness...or pressure...for some reason i NEVER do anything until the last minute, i know this is common...but it litterally happens to me with every single project and assignment...i think theres a thrill factor there...finishing something a just the last second possible...o i dunno
probably my biggest issue is my MESSSSSSSS...i am a MESS. i could really be on one of those t.v. shows were they attempt to sanitize and unclutter majorly messy homes. I can't walk in my room. I find myself leaping from bare spot to bare spot. when i shut the lights at night i have to make a mental note of where i can step. and this mess does not stop at my room..it follows me to the upstairs bathroom, our basement (where i paint) and school..gah i 'm a basket case. i think the biggest problem with this is the fights it instigates at home. My parents interpret it as selfishness. apparently because i am messy i have no regard for other human beings and i am a horrible person. according to my dad i'm going to have marital problems haha. i prob will what can i say. </p>
<p>i've secretly always wanted to be diagnosed so that i can justify my insanity haha.</p>
<p>o and also ..i'm noctural (it's three now...i'm not planning on turning in anytime soon ( ; )</p>
<p>o and i think this person goes to cooper but i'm not positive...any how i really like her work..u prob will too
<a href="http://thevelvetspleen.deviantart.com/gallery/%5B/url%5D">http://thevelvetspleen.deviantart.com/gallery/</a></p>
<p>Yeah i do like it.. spare pen & ink drawings I like. worries me, inevitably. this is the type of person who gets in. i love lines like that and incoprerated handwriting. i have an old doodle page that reminds me of a few of those things. not good like them, obviously, but it essence - the pen & ink writing randomness, style of doodles. (do you have 'computer doodle pages?' like a sheet of paper that's on your computer desk that you doodle on while pages are loading or the computer is turning on? they're funny)</p>
<p>nocturnal? same with me. when I said '1 am' before, i meant on school nights. when I was 12 I began having problems getting to bed on time. last summer I would meet my dad on the way to bed as he got up, at 6. I arrived at school on time once last week. (I'm always late by.. literally thirty seconds.. this is because I cut it to the last minute and I know exactly what time the car clock must say in order for me to get to my classroom on time, if I run from the car to the to the school and run I down the hallway.)</p>
<p>My parents hate this so much. (and yeah, they call it selfish! I 'don't care' how my being late affects other people. valid point, but.. most of the time.. it really doesn't affect anyone but me.. I'm supposed to learn how to fix it, and I can try, but it's part of myself, just a bad part of the way I function.. how do you change that?)</p>
<p>also, procrastination! What I have to spend today doing is writing these 'journals' for english class - just little papers about all the books and articles we read. of course, we're supposed to do them as we go along, then they're not so much work. I haven't started them, and they're due wednesday. jesus! then I DON'T do them because the huge amount of work scares me. I think, after I type this, I'm going to go eat more toast and then draw. (the other time I draw is when I have a load of homework that I'm suposed to be doing!)</p>
<p>hahaha - I don't have your room problem, (though it gets to that point once in a while) but I'm not as much of a mess in my room because my mom won't let it happen. But it actually does get to a point where I just clean my room myself. When I'm about to do homework or draw, I can't stand it being cluttered.. so I clean it all up and usually go overboard. so that takes me an hour or two and then I don't have enough time for whatever work I was cleaning up for. (perhaps this is just another form of avoidance..)</p>
<p>hah, i just remembered this.. my photo teacher said to me yesterday, 'You just leave a trail of things everywhere you go..' and she said it mean and accusing-like. she's kind of a jerk, heh.. then last semester, my sculpture teacher said I left stuff on the table when I was SURE I remembered to clean it up! I remembered cleaning and thinking about cleaning, yet I left a bunch of paint bottles on the table! what the hell, then I did it again the next day, even though I was thinking about cleaning because I felt guilty about the day before! I sort of knew I did this stuff, but people have been saying to me (more, lately) that I 'leave a trail' or 'get in a zone and don't notice or listen to things.' it's a bit shocking to hear them say it aloud, as if it's that noticable. I always thought it was more internal, and that only if they were, say, my parents, they would notice it so much. but my teachers have been saying these things, it's disconcerting.</p>
<p>..i don't know.. people think I'm so scatterbrained and maybe even a bit loopy? is odd and almost wrong-seeming to me because in my head, I feel like I think clearly, and that things are mostly in order. isn't that odd? - to feel like you're thinking fine but to have people tell you that you're scattered? I do NOT feel scattered!</p>
<p>I'm not worried about the whole waiting process you guys. Is that weird? not like "oh, I'm so going to get in ... blah blah" ... but something more to the effect of "I poured everything I had into that hometest ... EVERYTHING. and ulitmately, if I'm not what they're looking for, then, yeah, I'm not the one they're looking for. No regrets." </p>
<p>and anyways, I still not sure if I'm disqualified or not ... haha. A little part of me wants this to be the answer if I get a "we regret to inform you" letter ... softens the blow, a little.</p>
<p>that's a good way of looking at it.
head up, always.</p>
<p>yeah, that is.. i think my problem is that I'm not sure that I did put everything into it. I feel differently about the school now than I did then and I was tired frok the RISD one. so bits like that worry me..</p>
<p>but you know, I am starting to warm to the idea of going to MICA. you're right about that, may not be 'the type' they want, and there's nothing to be done about that.</p>
<p>I don't know....i think the thing is ...or at least with me the thing is....i always sort of looked at the the hometest as this opportunity to become something i'm not...perfect
for some reason i always kind of figured that i could try harder then i normally did...and that i would try harder than i normally did when working on the hometest...i figured that my work would be unprecedentally marvellous....
it was a bit of a downer when i finally realized that the time constraints coupled with the pressure and nervousness that i was experience during the "hometest era" would not allow perfection.</p>
<p>i mean i've come to terms with it now...but i have to agree i can't help but wondering if it could have been better</p>
<p>also when i say perfection ...i odn't realllly mean perfection but personal best...however, i'm glad i havn't reached my personal best yet...it's makes the future seem brighter</p>
<p>hah, way before I ever got the hometest and was under the impression that it was one work which addressed all six problems (somehow I as really sure of this. i seriously thought it would be one weekend's worth of work) i had visions of myself doing my best painting yet, it propped on a wall as i considered and me thinking, 'yep! that's certainly it! done good!' and then happily sending it in.</p>
<p>now that's funny and slightly embarassing.</p>
<p>hey, only 15 more days to go before they start the mailing process!</p>
<p>yeah, doesn't sound so bad..! (still remember when it was 4 weeks.) one and a half more weeks.. this week has gone by fast for me because I've been sick since monday. days go fast when you sleep through them, haha.. so there's a good thing about the sick.</p>
<p>hello again....does anyone here know anything about the art program at nyu (trying to start assessing cooper alternatives)
i think that they're more of a performing arts school but i'm not sure.</p>
<p>i'm so stressed---beginning to realize that no matter where i go to school i'm sacraficing something</p>
<p>at cooper i sacrafice liberal arts
at all the other schools i applied to i sacrafice visual arts (cooper was the only art school i applied to)</p>
<p>do you ever worry about furthering your liberal arts education?</p>
<p>haven't you ever watched felicity?? ;)</p>
<p>I believe you can take courses at NYU through Cooper Union; they have some sort of agreement ... and you get NYU library privileges as well if you go to Cooper.</p>
<p>Hey guys. Just saw this thread and thought I'd let ya know that NYU has a great studio art program. It's in Steinhardt and I have a couple of friends studying there. The talent is amazing, the class sizes are small, there are a ton of visiting artists, the contacts are really good, and study abroad opportunities are the best. Who wouldn't want to study art in Paris, Florence, or London? The internships you can get through this program are the best in the city according to my artist friends. It's worth checking out if you want a great education and experience in Art. Tough to get into but if you do, I haven't met anyone who doesn't love it.</p>
<p>I've had concerns about liberal arts, angelina.. english has always been my favorite class after art and I've been in pretty rigorous english classes since freshman year. however, now I'm getting tired of my english class and all the work in it while I want to concentrate more exclusively on art. but I dunno - i didn't think that english classes would be so intense at art school, (unless I went to RISD and took a class at Brown) so it probaby wouldn't bother me like it does now. (probably would also be more connected to art in the way it's taught or in content). but mostly, I think that liberal arts classes help artistically. they help you think and give you ideas, don't you think? so that is a sacrifice of cooper..</p>
<p>does cooper not have many liberal arts classes, or are they just of poorer quality compared to the art classes?</p>
<p>From what i hear cooper only has art history and humanities classes available to art students....
i would def be interested in the nyu/ cooper union thing...i was hoping that cross registration was possible....where did you hear about this halfsorry
also....does anyone know anything about art at cornell...i think we touched upon this subject a little bit before...but if anyone has anything more to say i would def be interested. I know it's a really small program but it seems pretty intensive. Though I suppose ithaca isn't exactly the place for an aspiring artist though- huh?</p>